Sales Totals 350 & 370 Z
 

Since the other thread on this topic was closed for no good reason that I could see, I thought I'd start a new one. With info from dad, I was able to put this info together in the Excel PDF format attached. Or just see the list below.

370 Z
Month 2009 2010 2011
January 1280 673 567
February 1452 699 571
March 1632 1095 974
April 1561 952 942
May 1278 1217 847
June 924 892 644
July 890 976 550
August 837 823 517
September 802 787 469
October 824 745 442
November 713 630
December 924 726
Total 13117 10215 6523

Grand Total 29855

nice info, thanks! :) really tough in this economy...

What? Threads get closed randomly on this forum? Say it isn't so. :rolleyes:

Thanks for info.

So 30,000 370 Z's on the road less totaled= ? I have no clue, but we might have a minor collectible on our hands some day.

That is surprisingly low! Cool info tho

Collectible... I doubt it. But it will definitely hold value better than the 350 did.

:iagree: but if another Z is not put into production our cars could be somewhat rare. I mean I barely see any in NY myself. Maybe 1 or 2 a week at most.

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More collectible than some plain old boring Mustang for sure.

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In terms of popularity, the AT has a better chance of being a collectible than the MT. There just aren't that many women who drive the 370. :stirthepot:

Hey my car won KBB's best resale award ;)

The 350 has actually held value pretty impressively. A lot of people look at the low prices, and forget that they are looking at examples that are 9+ years old, and have over 100k....


In contrast, the 3 year residual for the 370 is about 53%.


Of course, value will largely depend on what happens going forward. The 350 would be holding value even better had the 370 not come out...and even though you guys hate to hear, the 370 would be doing better had other cars not received big improvements.
The s2000 took a price hit when the 370 roadster turned out to be much cooler than the 350, and you can't really predict stuff like that.

too bad the driver of such car did not get improvements, huh, ehaww? :icon17:

Not a collectible, but it beats seen a Camaro, Challenger and Mustang every other car you pass by in the daily basis. :)

You can't even determine that until we see what the capabilities of the next gen japanese imports are like??? No other NA v6 domestic or import is as fast as the Z in the price range. No car in its price range can put down the numbers and have the level over overall balance that the Z has. I'm not saying the Z is the best car out there? But there is no other car in the price range that can put down this much power while cutting corners the way this car does while giving the driver a complete sense of feeling at one with the car. Its a formula that's rarely done on a high powered car unless you buy a porsche or better.

Only time will tell.

So far the mustang holds value better, but that is in no way relevant to the thread:ugh2:

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Like my opinion in the post you quoted, all of those points are subjective. I just think that years from now it will be just another one of those nice sports cars from yesterday that people would love to get their hands on (if societal circumstance allows) as a project car, weekend toy, racer, etc... just maybe a little harder to find than a 350. I don't necessarily see it being a "collectible" in the truest sense of the word...

Oh well, I don't really understand the "sports car tradition" so it doesn't even matter. :rolleyes: :p

Excuse me...someone like you doesn't need to understand it... I forgot that you own Barrett-Jackson and you are the oficianado of what will become a classic 25 years from now. :tup::icon18:

:shakes head:

:bowrofl:

We don't see eye to eye much, Unknown, but I respect your passion. :tup:

:driving: it just seems that way. You just take the notes on where we don't agree and forget quickly where we have agreed.

That means us with a 40th have a 1 in 30 car. I like that stat :)

We will always disagree on whether "oficianado" is a word

Oh I remember where we have agreed ;)

I was just giving you a hard time because you never responded to my comments in the other thread re: sports car tradition. :p

Oficionado is a spanish word. It means to make official. Its a word. Lol you learn something new everyday. :tup:

Oh that was one of those threads that I got bored with quickly and didn't go back. Lol. I don't even know what you wrrote back. Lol.

Cant say I dont agree:roflpuke2:

Buuuuutttt the 370, a collectors item, I doubt it.

Wow, that's pretty staggering

This econonic downturn really took a toll on sales.

So has the uprising of mullet donning hicks.

google says it isn't.


Back on topic, I'm curious what traits the Z has besides dismal sales that make people think it will be a classic. There are a couple traits that help raise a car's chances of being collectible after it is gone, and I don't see how the Z really meets any of them...

Historical Significance
Racing history, changing dynamic of a market, etc. Cars like the vette and 64.5 mustang fall into this category. So do many exotics.

The Z is at best an evolution of the 350z.

Lust factor
Cars that people want to own, but can't...then later in life, they can, and are willing to pay extravagantly for it. Top line cars, and many supercars fall into this category.

Most people that want a Z just ******* buy one. It isn't at all exclusive. My dad paid more for his Accord than I did for my Z. Beyond that, the motivation to WANT one is really not that high-- it's not like it was a Bond car...it is not even getting a lot of vendor attention like the supra and 300zx did.

Difficulty to find in good condition

Stuff like this starts to drive prices up early, and it is really what makes some older cars incredibly expensive. If you look around this forum,more than half spend most of their life obsessing over keeping their Z scratch free, and in good condition for their kids to trade in on STIs or whatever. Back in the day, people drove the wheels off their cars, and didn't sell them 3 years after purchase...which means that very few survived, thus driving up the value(of course, only for cars that people WANTED. You don't see much demand for old pintos)

Limited production

I'm not talking 10k a year, I'm talking true limited production...and again, it has to be a car people want. Nobody is thinking the RX8 will be a collectible, but the RX7 is almost a shoe-in. What is the difference? The RX7 is one of the greatest cars ever made...many people felt the 93 model was a better car than the viper of the same year....the RX8 couldn't compete with a mustang. And check out the production numbers:
3rd Gen Mazda RX-7 Production Numbers

There are less FDs out there than there are Z's, and even fewer turbo variants....

Long before the 370z is in a high dollar auction, you'll see bidding wars for FDs, Z32TTs, Supra TT, etc...hell, I think there were more 370z's sold than ap2s:roflpuke2:

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I was actually shocked to see those AP2 vs Z34 sales numbers. I had no clue.

But....but..rare? o.O

I live in Maine, and besides one other guy i know with one, ive seen a total of 5 since ive had the car. Some of which may have been repeats...

Yeah... seeing one on a weekly or monthly occasion isn't really rare. To be fair, they're not as common as a Toyota Celica, but our cars aren't exactly 'rare' - the number of 370Z's sold pretty much prove that. While there are, indubitably, regional differences that may make it seem like a 'rare' car (I mean, how many 370Z's do you expect to find in the more snow-ridden areas of the U.S.? Or Central Africa? Or even China?). A rare car is one that you rarely see (yes, that's a tautology, deal with it), and great examples of these cars are, as Red mentioned earlier, supercars - when was the last time you saw a Ford GT, or and even a NSX?

Our cars are at best uncommon... uncommonly AWESOME.

ERRRY DAYY!!!:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2 ::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

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:bowdown: aye, you win the internet haha. Residing in NYC, I see boatloads of Ferrari's, Lambo's, R8's, even Aston's, but I've only seen a GT once, and that was many, many moons ago - back then, I was a wee lad of yea high, and my name was only 'wasabi'.

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this guy lives in the neighborhood across from me. kinda crazy. freaking love the car. I'd love to own one someday.

i are jelly.

Sorry... this thread begs the question.... why?

To show how low the sales of the 370z have been.

There were more 350z's sold in 2003 than all the 370z's to-date :icon14: