The Z's future

b1adesofcha0s · 11-30-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dAvenue

That's a fair point but it should be noted that manufacturing hybrids meant big tax breaks for Acme company. If the government wasn't subsidizing them, the consumer costs would still be very high and the demand would still be very low. Given that the federal government is broke and it needs to cut spending, subsidies like this one should be on the chopping block. The market would then truly dictate the progress of such vehicles, EV's included. However, if the fed doesn't cut it, then you have a good argument in favor of EV's.

That's true. If the government subsidies are gone, it will put more pressure on manufacturers to lower their cost/sale price to get those cars to sell.

Alchemy · 11-30-2011, 06:20 PM

This thread made me thoroughly research the Tesla. Wow, its an amazing car. The electric engine really does make sense. Its so damn simple!!! The Teslas engine is the size of a watermelon. If the battery didnt weigh so damn much it would be uber light, not that 2700lbs is shabby. The battery weighs like over 900lbs, woah. 288ft-lbs whenever you want it, at your disposal. I will be sad to see the gasoline engine come to an end but wow the possibilities of electric are exciting. If the Tesla, more or less the first of its kind performs like this, just imagine what its gonna be like when the technology is really developed. Your gonna have like 500ft-lbs on tap and be goin 0-60 in like a second. Totally weird it has no trans either. One gear all the way up to 14,000 rpm. Not even a gear to switch into reverse, you just press a button to reverse the polarity of the engine or something like that. I dont remember who previously said this in this thread but change is scary. I dont know if I wanna live in a world without a manual gearbox

its half the fun...

KaienZ34 · 11-30-2011, 06:37 PM

Put four of those motors, one on each wheel make it all wheel drive and now your talking.

rudi · 11-30-2011, 06:44 PM

Won't be long and Sony will be making cars

andre12031948 · 11-30-2011, 06:56 PM

When we walked on the moon, a long time ago, people said that by the year 2000 we would be vacationing on the moon & on Mars. It would be as common as going to the Islands. The world population doubled, fuel & money tightened up, & we went backwards, not in new inventions, but in quality of life. The only reason for our recent H.P. sport/muscle car boom was because of the demand & still affordable. With the next doubling of world population, & less minerals/fuel/material availible, you can demand all you want, but powerfull EV's or GAS cars will be for the very few/very rich.... Get used to smaller/lighter/slower whatever & sardine type public transportation. Then again, with every crazy nation trying to get NUKES, there's a chance that wold's population may drop by a few billion. There would be plenty of cheap gas with only one billion people

b1adesofcha0s · 11-30-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rudi

Won't be long and Sony will be making cars

Well Polyphony Digital (part of Sony) who make the Gran Turismo games also designed the information display in the GT-R

Alchemy · 11-30-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Well Polyphony Digital (part of Sony) who make the Gran Turismo games also designed the information display in the GT-R

HUH, didnt know that!!!

b1adesofcha0s · 11-30-2011, 07:40 PM

It's a pretty cool display too, got to check it out in my friend's GT-R

Alchemy · 11-30-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

It's a pretty cool display too, got to check it out in my friend's GT-R

Yeah saw your thread about your GTR adventure

Im jelly.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-30-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Yeah saw your thread about your GTR adventure

Im jelly.

It was a lot of fun. Best part is, he comes to our local meets so I will get to see it every other week

Alchemy · 11-30-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

It was a lot of fun. Best part is, he comes to our local meets so I will get to see it every other week

Now Im extra jelly

Im looking forward to seeing a few at ZDAYZ this year.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-30-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

Now Im extra jelly

Im looking forward to seeing a few at ZDAYZ this year.

I had thought about trading my Z for a 5.0 before, but now I'm aiming straight for a used GT-R as soon as I can

Alchemy · 11-30-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I had thought about trading my Z for a 5.0 before, but now I'm aiming straight for a used GT-R as soon as I can

I like this idea MUCH more

RoshDawg · 11-30-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

File photo of Dave and his cell phone:

He's got a new 150 ft cord for it, so you can call him even when he's out working on the yard!

haha I had a family friend in Iran (used to live there until 16) who thought his cordless housephone was a cellphone n always had it in his pocket. He never found out it wasnt since he never went too far from his house.

FL 4Motion · 11-30-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

When we walked on the moon, a long time ago, people said that by the year 2000 we would be vacationing on the moon & on Mars. It would be as common as going to the Islands. The world population doubled, fuel & money tightened up, & we went backwards, not in new inventions, but in quality of life. The only reason for our recent H.P. sport/muscle car boom was because of the demand & still affordable. With the next doubling of world population, & less minerals/fuel/material availible, you can demand all you want, but powerfull EV's or GAS cars will be for the very few/very rich.... Get used to smaller/lighter/slower whatever & sardine type public transportation. Then again, with every crazy nation trying to get NUKES, there's a chance that wold's population may drop by a few billion. There would be plenty of cheap gas with only one billion people

You're such an optimist. Why don't you take off those rose colored glasses and come back to reality huh?

11-30-2011, 06:20 PM	#77 (permalink)
Alchemy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 4,855 Drives: to acquire tickets Rep Power: 3524	This thread made me thoroughly research the Tesla. Wow, its an amazing car. The electric engine really does make sense. Its so damn simple!!! The Teslas engine is the size of a watermelon. If the battery didnt weigh so damn much it would be uber light, not that 2700lbs is shabby. The battery weighs like over 900lbs, woah. 288ft-lbs whenever you want it, at your disposal. I will be sad to see the gasoline engine come to an end but wow the possibilities of electric are exciting. If the Tesla, more or less the first of its kind performs like this, just imagine what its gonna be like when the technology is really developed. Your gonna have like 500ft-lbs on tap and be goin 0-60 in like a second. Totally weird it has no trans either. One gear all the way up to 14,000 rpm. Not even a gear to switch into reverse, you just press a button to reverse the polarity of the engine or something like that. I dont remember who previously said this in this thread but change is scary. I dont know if I wanna live in a world without a manual gearbox its half the fun... __________________ Ryan 314WHP \| 260LB-FT \| STILLEN \| KONI \| SWIFT \| STOPTECH \| Z1 \| PROJECT MU \| CNT \| UPREV \| FORGESTAR \| BRIDGESTONE \| PWJDM \| ENEOS \| MOTUL

11-30-2011, 06:37 PM	#78 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 178	Put four of those motors, one on each wheel make it all wheel drive and now your talking. __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

11-30-2011, 06:56 PM	#80 (permalink)
andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	hate to be bearer of bad news When we walked on the moon, a long time ago, people said that by the year 2000 we would be vacationing on the moon & on Mars. It would be as common as going to the Islands. The world population doubled, fuel & money tightened up, & we went backwards, not in new inventions, but in quality of life. The only reason for our recent H.P. sport/muscle car boom was because of the demand & still affordable. With the next doubling of world population, & less minerals/fuel/material availible, you can demand all you want, but powerfull EV's or GAS cars will be for the very few/very rich.... Get used to smaller/lighter/slower whatever & sardine type public transportation. Then again, with every crazy nation trying to get NUKES, there's a chance that wold's population may drop by a few billion. There would be plenty of cheap gas with only one billion people

11-30-2011, 07:40 PM	#83 (permalink)
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11-30-2011, 06:44 PM	#79 (permalink)
rudi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 306 Drives: 370Z Australian Spec Rep Power: 16	Won't be long and Sony will be making cars