How deep I wonder. I was going to post a similar thread. I plan on keeping my Z and buying a track day car with littles treet usage. Unless I like it so much the Z goes away. Reliability etc, which year Viper should we be looking at? Pre nanny variety please.

Expensive to maintain was in reference to the P-car. Everything on a P-car has a P-tax premium attached to it :)

Maintenance cost on a Viper will be a little bit higher but not bad. None of the Viper's have Nannies.

Well, consider that a front-end on a Viper starts at around $15K for cosmetic damage.

Then consider that it runs 345's out back.

Then consider that qualified labor runs about $150/hr.

It can add up.

About the fastest "cheap" car to track is the C5 Z06. Very durable. Very cheap (except tires). Comparatively.

However, if you have the money and can drive well enough to make use of it, I have heard (never driven one) that the Viper is a helluva fun car...as long as you are smooooth.

The Gen IV Vipers are the best. The Gen III's had a crappier rear-end. Gen IV got the TR6060 and better diff. The '08 is the bargain, with the '09 having a few tiny kinks worked out, and the '10 being the pinnacle. Viper got better each year, regarding mechanical aspect.

At least, this is all I gathered when doing a ton of research on them when I was considering one over my Z06.

you gotta pay to play

And then there's the ACR Viper :yum:

Of course, but depending on disposable income, everyone has a threshold of diminishing returns on just how big a game they bring.

Me personally? I'm considering dumping my G20 for the clean Mid'90's hard-top equipped low-mile Miata one of my friends is selling this spring :)

having a dedicated track car and tracking your car frequently implies a certain threshold of disposable income.

i thought you were getting a 370z?

Good news then:

Z labor is $130 now and tires are the same price. $15k front end is all part of crashing which I hope never to do.

Thanks

Separate question about handling
 

Separate question about handling. How does Viper handle tight turning mountain roads? Does it need a track to shine? Will my Z keep up without a straightaway?

Here is my daily drive:

Daily drive, in my daily driver 370Z. - YouTube

Just fyi.... the viper is one of the most expensive cars in terms of upkeep. Now thats with just cars that see the raod on weekends. I couldnt imagine what it would cost when your puting a years worth of abuse in one sesh.
But then again I am the one to worry about that sort of thing because I dont have the cash to even buy the car but mat not everyone is in the same boat as me...
I tell you if I had the cash tho... no doubt about it, upkeep would be worth the heads I turn passing by hahaha!

You pay $2200+ for tires for your 370z?

what kind/year of viper were you looking at? I been in a 94 gts and a 09 acr, damn things are a monster. Like someone already said the T56 tranny is amazing. Only thing that sucks is the amount of spark plugs you gotta change...lol.

I say do it.

$1680. I priced the Vipers at about the same. Even if I was wrong, $500 on this vehicle will mot make or break the deal.

The deal just got broken when I saw the 36.5" head room. I'm nearly 6'3" and with a helmet I can't imagine fitting in. Unless two inches can be taken off the bottom of the seat. Can it?

I had forgotten all the near concussive blows to the head I received in my 300ZXtt on a few violent turns, with only 37.5" of head room. The 370 with the extra inch or so eliminated this. But with the helmet I need to move my seat around to an uncomfortable position just to look level forward.

I dont know how you fit in the z with a helmet. I'm only 6'1" and can't fit with one.

The viper felt like it had more room to me.

Best of everything!!!

Viper Miata!!!

http://www.moesrealm.com/img/viper_800.jpg

It's indestructible (from the doors) :drool:

I fit just fine in the Z at 6'5" :P Do you have a booster seat or something in there? I do look forward to getting race seats that are lower than stock though.

that miata fooled me. i thought it was a mini viper.

Look at Mike's stable...I don't think he would give a damn considering what his wife is driving. :happydance:

2008+. I have noticed cars with next to no miles on them, ie 2009 156 miles, and a full tilt new price.

How often on the plugs? What I want is a Viper/Corvette with GTR maintenance and reliability.

A rear wheel drive, front engined, manual. This is why I did not but a GTR in the first place. I'd likely take an all wheel drive MT GTR, but no way an auto.

I like the idea of not being a Corvette/Porsche person who has already been sized up as an A-hole by simply owning one.

Her car has zero maintenance costs and is totally unmodded. Keeping it totally stock and letting BMW take care of it, and it will be replaced when the warranty is up

My C6 was pretty trouble free. I just didn't enjoy tracking it as much as the Z. It didn't really have any soul to it.

depends how you drive it. If you are always racing it, more often. Not sure the exact mileage, but i changed mine out 2 times in the year i had it (once when i first got the truck and second time i switched to 1 step colder for the nitrous). Also coils and wires help alot at the top end. It's more of a bitch to change the plugs on the srt-10 ram since the brake cylinder is in the way for the 2 on the right bank. If you get a viper, talk to Tony at JTSVP...awesome guy and has a **** load of parts for the vipers.

Be sure to post some pics.

2005 Lingenfelter Commemorative Edition Corvette 427 CID

this is the one I was thinkiing of, but will keep the Z instead.
Ignore the link title
http://21stcenturymusclecars.com/ima...l/DSC00535.JPG
Viper GT1 Race Car




New race prepped Arrow motor, Quaife Differential, blueprinted Tremec Trans,

Comp Coupe Brakes, Lexan front and rear windows, carbon fiber doors,

full 6 point rollcage, GT-2 Wing, Halon Fire System, Fuel Cell,

2 Sets Forgeline Wheels and much more



The car was meticulously setup and cared for by Archer Racing.



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$27,500!!!

^ I think I've seen that viper on Ebay or Autotrader. Seems like a good deal. From what I remember, this guy has been trying to sale this thing for a long time.

Wow. that is a really good deal. Looks like an awesome thrill ride!

Also, it shows that mods really do nothing for value. lol... errr, you have to snag the right person.

wow, that viper is badass!

that and the fact that with the cage and everything, its strictly a track toy and not street legal at all.

damn i would so buy that over the Z..lol. That is a crazy deal.