Why is our car so heavy?

theDreamer · 11-20-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think people get overly concerned with the weight of these cars. Yeah, it's not as light as a 240Z, but it's not as heavy as a GT-R either. And look at how those things perform!

Yep and like power it is all in the balance.

m4a1mustang · 11-20-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Yep and like power it is all in the balance.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-20-2011, 03:11 PM

A lighter weight GT-R would be pretty amazing. Same with the Z, if they are done right.

Red__Zed · 11-20-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

how is 3575 lbs "the same" as 3230 lbs??

The Z is actually very lightweight compared to current generation sports cars in its price range. and how many times does a new model get lighter than the previous? (as in the Z34 is lighter than the z33)

most car's listed weights are pretty far off....see below

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

On a serious note, my car on a scale with me in it and everything (down to the sheet metal) out of the rear weighed in at 3512 or something like that.

DarkZide · 11-20-2011, 03:20 PM

Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models.

3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

frost · 11-20-2011, 03:21 PM

Mail your congressman and tell him to stop supporting car safety laws.

Trips · 11-20-2011, 03:23 PM

Z32 TT 3,500 pounds

KillerBee370 · 11-20-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models.

3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

I weigh in at 220. So that leaves 62 lbs of stuff that came out of the car's rear. I can't see the spare, bose sub, jack equipment etc. weighing that much but who knows... maybe?

Red__Zed · 11-20-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models.

3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

08 evo x (gsr, mr will be heavier)

empty trunk, full tank, no rear

z with 3/4 tank (which can't be used, of course)

I'd say this is pretty close, but that is just me.

Of course, the MR will be heavier, but that's a lot closer than most people make it out to be.

Actual weight aside, the Z drives much lighter due to better weight balance and steering feel. Never been a fan of the way the EVO drives at all...

DarkZide · 11-20-2011, 05:12 PM

Glad there is nothing on those sheets to actually substantiate that.

You can damn well bet if the Evo actually weighed what a 370 does that Mitsubishi wouldn't be reporting it as 300lbs heavier.

m4a1mustang · 11-20-2011, 05:24 PM

We need to find every car and get to some scales. Apparently there can be a pretty big difference between manufacturer claim for curb weight and actual curb weight. And the difference can go either way.

Red__Zed · 11-20-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Glad there is nothing on those sheets to actually substantiate that.

You can damn well bet if the Evo actually weighed what a 370 does that Mitsubishi wouldn't be reporting it as 300lbs heavier.

Sounds like you aren't very familiar with the EVO trim levels. The GSR weighs a lot less than that 3500lb figure you keep tossing out...
Evo X curb weight: 1,420–1,600 kg (3,131–3,527 lb)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not sure what you mean by there is nothing to substantiate that...those are independently posted weights on cars....

m4a1mustang · 11-20-2011, 05:30 PM

Too many damn trim levels. I found an MT article with the Evo SE and they had it at 3,563. I'm guessing that's the "nice" Evo, not the totally stripped down evo.

Red__Zed · 11-20-2011, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Too many damn trim levels. I found an MT article with the Evo SE and they had it at 3,563. I'm guessing that's the "nice" Evo, not the totally stripped down evo.

it's between the mr and the gsr

m4a1mustang · 11-20-2011, 05:32 PM

So which Evo is the heaviest?

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	We need to find every car and get to some scales. Apparently there can be a pretty big difference between manufacturer claim for curb weight and actual curb weight. And the difference can go either way. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook! Last edited by m4a1mustang; 11-20-2011 at 05:27 PM.

11-20-2011, 05:30 PM	#28 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Too many damn trim levels. I found an MT article with the Evo SE and they had it at 3,563. I'm guessing that's the "nice" Evo, not the totally stripped down evo. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	So which Evo is the heaviest? __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-20-2011, 03:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 15	Adding all the bose junk, navigation, power seat motors, etc is gonna drive it up. But the curb weights given by manufactuers are accurate enough for comparisons between models. 3512-3230 = 282 of which the poster probably weights at least 175.

11-20-2011, 05:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 15	Glad there is nothing on those sheets to actually substantiate that. You can damn well bet if the Evo actually weighed what a 370 does that Mitsubishi wouldn't be reporting it as 300lbs heavier.

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