Oil Overheat IMPORTANT UPDATE

shabarivas · 05-12-2009, 07:58 PM

Hey man... do you know of any closed courses and/or dragstrips near your house? just take him there with you and run it hard a couple times after she warms up ... should be easy to repro even if its not too hot outside...

joentown · 05-12-2009, 08:12 PM

If Bill doesn't already know that oil temp is the No 1 issue confronnting 370Z owners then he has no right being employed in the position tha he is in.

that's like a lung doctor today saying "I've never heard that smoking is linked to lung cancer"

We all know that there are enough oil temp issues out there that have been documented by reputable car mags, z owners and track heads to qualify it as a legitimate issue.

I can't believe that Nisssan itself doesn't have boat loads of documented cases that Nissan itself created while developing/testing the car. They know the issue is there and that it is a legitimate concern.

Question is, what are they going to do about it?

They should include oil cooler as standard on all future production runs (and replace that fuel guage and add a digital speedo while they are at it) and simply issue a recall to all existing owners to have the cooler installed.

....fat chance

theDreamer · 05-12-2009, 08:15 PM

Glad to hear things are moving forward, about to be out of my break in period and hitting hotter weather in Texas.

spearfish25 · 05-12-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Glad to hear things are moving forward, about to be out of my break in period and hitting hotter weather in Texas.

I would recommend you guys continue calling Nissan North America and get your respective Field Quality Engineers involved. Bill Hayes is the Midwest person, so I'm sure there is a Southwest, Northeast, etc etc. Hopefully someone in a hotter location can get their respective quality engineer on the phone too.

Zeto · 05-12-2009, 08:33 PM

Lets hope we get good results!

TN370ZLC · 05-12-2009, 09:16 PM

Maybe sales are slowing on the 370z
and Nissan is linking the slow sales
to the oil overheating problem.

People are waiting for an oil
cooler before buying ?

Just a thought.

RCZ · 05-12-2009, 09:19 PM

Just point him to all of these threads...we aren't imagining things, the car overheats.

antennahead · 05-12-2009, 09:28 PM

This was posted 04/30/09 in another oil temp thread:

"Taking the suggestion from this thread I called Nissan customer affairs at 1.800.647.7261 this Tuesday. I talked with Jennifer Irwin, extension 41622, and voiced my concern about the high oil temperature issue. I also told her I was thinking about cancelling my 370Z order due in July because of the very hot summers we get in Texas. She open up file #6479687. I got a call back from her this morning. According to her supervisor, Nissan is aware of the problem and that their engineering is currently working on an oil cooler kit that is to be available in two to three weeks. Of course doubting this I asked if she was sure and she said that it was a fact and she had been authorized to tell me about the kit.

We shall see..... "

Now I am happy that this "Bill" is getting involved, any happy for some new positive developments, but don't these two approaches just seem to be a little out of sync with each other? Like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing? Also, for "Bill" to state that to date, no dealer has called in with the problem, when we know good and well some of us have had the service department log this? All of this "different information" coming out of Nissan smacks of the initial treatment all of us were experiencing with the 2006 oil consumption cars.................... no real straight answers. One person says one thing and someone else another. Are they really aware of the issue with a cooler coming in 2 weeks as Jennifer says? Or are they "in the dark with no dealers reporting this" as Bill says. And yes, I fully believe they are reading this forum. Deja VU all over again as Yogi says ...............

John

370sed · 05-12-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN370ZLC

Maybe sales are slowing on the 370z
and Nissan is linking the slow sales
to the oil overheating problem.

People are waiting for an oil
cooler before buying ?

Just a thought.

Yep, that was me. I was seriously looking for a new car earlier in the Spring...for track duty. This immediately and irrevocably put me off the idea of a new 370Z. If the car can't do a few track laps as delivered in std dress form, I have little faith in any other engineering on the car. It's basic stuff, so what else is potentially in the same de-engineered state is anyone's guess. I don't want to be the one to find out the hard way.

This particular item may be easily fixed, but then again maybe not, and with almost guaranteed bad effects on any factory warranty w/3rd party parts & patches.

Roger over and out Nissan....til it's fixed...by the factory fessing up and putting the necessary fix(es) in place.

spearfish25 · 05-12-2009, 10:39 PM

For what it's worth, Bill gave me the sense that he is very involved and invested in this car. He clearly had a strong reaction to a possible problem and gave me the feeling that when it comes to engineering issues, he's a player in sorting them out. If I recall correctly after I explained the problem, he said something along the lines of "well, no dealer has told me about this. I need to see this first hand. Here is my cell phone, call me any time during the week so we can meet. I'll have my computer and diagnostic system so I can log the vehicle information while we go for a drive."

I certainly see him as an ally in sorting out our situation and will be nothing but cordial and helpful in demonstrating the issue. Now just get us some hot days here in Chicago so I can meet up with Bill and move things along!

spearfish25 · 05-12-2009, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas

Hey man... do you know of any closed courses and/or dragstrips near your house? just take him there with you and run it hard a couple times after she warms up ... should be easy to repro even if its not too hot outside...

While I'm sure that would do the trick, he appears most interested in the daily, street driving aspect of the problem.

7sudden · 05-12-2009, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

The only thing that will hold up progress here is waiting for a 75F or hotter day in Chicago so I can do the test drive. IMO, the worst thing that could happen to us is that I get him in the car with his onboard diagnostics setup and I don't get the Z to overheat.

I would be happy to provide my contact info if he could hook me up with an engineer here in Phoenix. It would be easy to demonstrate, as we're already seeing 100+ degree days.

I can replicate in a matter of a few minutes.

AARC51 · 05-13-2009, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7sudden

I would be happy to provide my contact info if he could hook me up with an engineer here in Phoenix. It would be easy to demonstrate, as we're already seeing 100+ degree days.

I can replicate in a matter of a few minutes.

Same. We can provide some of the worst heat tests North America can produce.

SoCal 370Z · 05-13-2009, 12:22 AM

I sure wish a Japanese National from Nissan was the one coming to review the situation. That way matters get expedited much quicker versus feedback that can be skewed. Is there a way you can request a Japanese National from the office that is coming to inspect the situation?

joeyz10 · 05-13-2009, 01:01 AM

i asked my dealer yesterday and the service advisor told me that he is not aware of any temp issues and no one has ever came to complain..

05-12-2009, 08:15 PM	#18 (permalink)
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05-12-2009, 09:16 PM	#21 (permalink)
TN370ZLC Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lenoir City,TN Posts: 58 Drives: Nissan Sentra Rep Power: 16	Maybe, . . just maybe . . . Maybe sales are slowing on the 370z and Nissan is linking the slow sales to the oil overheating problem. People are waiting for an oil cooler before buying ? Just a thought.

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SoCal 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US of A Posts: 2,842 Drives: Answers Rep Power: 33	I sure wish a Japanese National from Nissan was the one coming to review the situation. That way matters get expedited much quicker versus feedback that can be skewed. Is there a way you can request a Japanese National from the office that is coming to inspect the situation? __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) Why I NEVER say NO to the Panda Lou Fusz!!!

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05-12-2009, 07:58 PM	#16 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	Hey man... do you know of any closed courses and/or dragstrips near your house? just take him there with you and run it hard a couple times after she warms up ... should be easy to repro even if its not too hot outside...

05-12-2009, 08:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
joentown Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 70 Drives: 370Z '10 Tour Sport Rep Power: 16	If Bill doesn't already know that oil temp is the No 1 issue confronnting 370Z owners then he has no right being employed in the position tha he is in. that's like a lung doctor today saying "I've never heard that smoking is linked to lung cancer" We all know that there are enough oil temp issues out there that have been documented by reputable car mags, z owners and track heads to qualify it as a legitimate issue. I can't believe that Nisssan itself doesn't have boat loads of documented cases that Nissan itself created while developing/testing the car. They know the issue is there and that it is a legitimate concern. Question is, what are they going to do about it? They should include oil cooler as standard on all future production runs (and replace that fuel guage and add a digital speedo while they are at it) and simply issue a recall to all existing owners to have the cooler installed. ....fat chance

05-12-2009, 08:33 PM	#20 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 40 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 267	Lets hope we get good results!

05-12-2009, 09:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Just point him to all of these threads...we aren't imagining things, the car overheats.

05-12-2009, 09:28 PM	#23 (permalink)
antennahead A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 15,181 Drives: '07 Z4 "M" Roadster Rep Power: 57	This was posted 04/30/09 in another oil temp thread: "Taking the suggestion from this thread I called Nissan customer affairs at 1.800.647.7261 this Tuesday. I talked with Jennifer Irwin, extension 41622, and voiced my concern about the high oil temperature issue. I also told her I was thinking about cancelling my 370Z order due in July because of the very hot summers we get in Texas. She open up file #6479687. I got a call back from her this morning. According to her supervisor, Nissan is aware of the problem and that their engineering is currently working on an oil cooler kit that is to be available in two to three weeks. Of course doubting this I asked if she was sure and she said that it was a fact and she had been authorized to tell me about the kit. We shall see..... " Now I am happy that this "Bill" is getting involved, any happy for some new positive developments, but don't these two approaches just seem to be a little out of sync with each other? Like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing? Also, for "Bill" to state that to date, no dealer has called in with the problem, when we know good and well some of us have had the service department log this? All of this "different information" coming out of Nissan smacks of the initial treatment all of us were experiencing with the 2006 oil consumption cars.................... no real straight answers. One person says one thing and someone else another. Are they really aware of the issue with a cooler coming in 2 weeks as Jennifer says? Or are they "in the dark with no dealers reporting this" as Bill says. And yes, I fully believe they are reading this forum. Deja VU all over again as Yogi says ............... John

05-12-2009, 10:39 PM	#25 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	For what it's worth, Bill gave me the sense that he is very involved and invested in this car. He clearly had a strong reaction to a possible problem and gave me the feeling that when it comes to engineering issues, he's a player in sorting them out. If I recall correctly after I explained the problem, he said something along the lines of "well, no dealer has told me about this. I need to see this first hand. Here is my cell phone, call me any time during the week so we can meet. I'll have my computer and diagnostic system so I can log the vehicle information while we go for a drive." I certainly see him as an ally in sorting out our situation and will be nothing but cordial and helpful in demonstrating the issue. Now just get us some hot days here in Chicago so I can meet up with Bill and move things along!

05-13-2009, 01:01 AM	#30 (permalink)
joeyz10 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 248 Drives: 09 370z AT/ RRSS 08/ Rep Power: 16	i asked my dealer yesterday and the service advisor told me that he is not aware of any temp issues and no one has ever came to complain..