Oil Overheat IMPORTANT UPDATE

spearfish25 · 05-12-2009, 05:19 PM

Alright, this could be big news. Today I received a call from Bill Hayes of Nissan North America. Apparently he is the Field Quality Engineer for Midwest division and is based around the Chicago area. He has given me his number and we'll be scheduling a test drive on the next hot afternoon so I can demonstrate the overheating issue. He'll be hooking up an engine monitoring system to record the problem.

He expressed that NO dealers have reported this issue to them at the Nissan North America headquarters. Thus, he's very interested in documenting the problem. I'll let everyone know what happens once I meet with him on our next hot day.

Endgame · 05-12-2009, 05:22 PM

These idiot dealers....

Nice update spearfish.

SoCal 370Z · 05-12-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

He expressed that NO dealers have reported this issue to them at the Nissan North America headquarters.

Mr. Hayes cannot say anything different for legal reason, but this is potentially big news.

Serious rep point given

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endgame

These idiot dealers...

I believe the dealers HAVE reported this issue, it has just taken Nissan this long to slog through their legal department to get to this point.

shabarivas · 05-12-2009, 05:29 PM

good good - i was just about to buy one

now ill wait

ChrisSlicks · 05-12-2009, 05:32 PM

Cook that MF.

wstar · 05-12-2009, 06:23 PM

Nice. Be nice to him and he'll be our best inside ally. Once you meet him in person for the test drive, you might want to mention this board and our experiences/threads here as well, so he's fully aware of how this is not just an isolated problem with 1-2 cars.

Forrest · 05-12-2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25

Alright, this could be big news. Today I received a call from Bill Hayes of Nissan North America. Apparently he is the Fuel System Specialist for Nissan North America and is based around the Chicago area. He has given me his number and we'll be scheduling a test drive on the next hot afternoon so I can demonstrate the overheating issue. He'll be hooking up an engine monitoring system to record the problem.

He expressed that NO dealers have reported this issue to them at the Nissan North America headquarters. Thus, he's very interested in documenting the problem. I'll let everyone know what happens once I meet with him on our next hot day.

Could you bring every document from every magazine that states the car over heats?

Print out documents from different websites also that state it.

Soon as i get time i will try to search them out for you and link them, i am a tad bit busy right now but maybe by tonight i can get it done

RCZ · 05-12-2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Cook that MF.

+5

SoCal 370Z · 05-12-2009, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest

Could you bring every document from every magazine that states the car over heats?

Print out documents from different websites also that state it.

Excellent idea!

NRGSwing · 05-12-2009, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest

Could you bring every document from every magazine that states the car over heats?

Print out documents from different websites also that state it.

Soon as i get time i will try to search them out for you and link them, i am a tad bit busy right now but maybe by tonight i can get it done

And the Edmunds Inside Line long term test blog entry that says:

"Back in November we ran our first Full Test of a 2009 Nissan 370Z. That test car was a short term loan, it was red, and, unlike our long-term test car, it wore aftermarket, Nissan developed oil and differential coolers. During extreme usage, especially track use, oil gets hot. If the VQ in our 370Z senses things getting too hot-- which can happen in as little as 10 minutes-- it sends the car into limp-home mode limiting revs to only 5,500. Limiting this car to 5,500 is like limiting Barry Bonds to bunting, we've never experienced limp-home mode, but we never want to. "If you plan on doing any track driving" our contact at Nissan said, "you'll need one."

Complaints or no, they know it's an issue.

shabarivas · 05-12-2009, 07:06 PM

ok so this is what we need to do aside from gathering reports and mags that claim the issue is widespread...

People on this board need to chime in and say that their car is getting to high temps.. so if the op will allow it... we should start a list of all the ppl who have seen this issue in their cars and their ID so the nissan folks can ask us questions if they need more proof...

antennahead · 05-12-2009, 07:08 PM

Nissan reports 1st annual loss in a decade:

Nissan reports 1st annual loss in a decade - BusinessWeek

I wonder if this might have a little bearing on how quick they are to:

*"recall" and give us all an oil cooler
*give an oil cooler to only those that scream about the overheating issue
*make us pay for an approved oil cooler that doesn't invalidate the warranty
*none of the above

John

dad · 05-12-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forrest

Could you bring every document from every magazine that states the car over heats?

Print out documents from different websites also that state it.

Soon as i get time i will try to search them out for you and link them, i am a tad bit busy right now but maybe by tonight i can get it done

You would have to buy extra ink for the printer. But your idea is an excellent one!

azn370z · 05-12-2009, 07:32 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but the z doesn't go into limp mode when driven on a hot day. The z does however go into limp mode when driven on a race track. I don't see nissan doing anything for us if it only over heats on the track.

spearfish25 · 05-12-2009, 07:54 PM

I agree this is very exciting...we have Nissan's ear now.

The only thing that will hold up progress here is waiting for a 75F or hotter day in Chicago so I can do the test drive. IMO, the worst thing that could happen to us is that I get him in the car with his onboard diagnostics setup and I don't get the Z to overheat. So, he knows that I'll call him when the weather warms up a bit more and then he's onboard for the test drive. Just please be a bit patient so we can ensure a good showing of my car turning into a blazing inferno. If the temp is 80F or better, I can certainly make the gauge hit 260 on the streets.

When I spoke to him on the phone, I brought up the extensive overheat issues noted on this forum. He really wasn't interested in the details and wants tangible hard evidence...he asked that we focus on my car and redemonstrating the issue while he has his computer hooked up.

However, I absolutely DO think it's worth while to print some of the threads and articles that demonstrate an oil cooler solves the problem. Also, please continue to post any ideas or suggestions you have as it seems I've become the ambassador of our oil problems. More news to follow as soon as I have it...

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

we should start a list of all the ppl who have seen this issue in their cars and their ID so the nissan folks can ask us questions if they need more proof...

If you'd like to email me your name, email, telephone...I can bring him a list so he can contact you if he needs more info or proof.

05-12-2009, 05:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Oil Overheat IMPORTANT UPDATE Alright, this could be big news. Today I received a call from Bill Hayes of Nissan North America. Apparently he is the Field Quality Engineer for Midwest division and is based around the Chicago area. He has given me his number and we'll be scheduling a test drive on the next hot afternoon so I can demonstrate the overheating issue. He'll be hooking up an engine monitoring system to record the problem. He expressed that NO dealers have reported this issue to them at the Nissan North America headquarters. Thus, he's very interested in documenting the problem. I'll let everyone know what happens once I meet with him on our next hot day. Last edited by spearfish25; 05-12-2009 at 08:27 PM.

05-12-2009, 06:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	Nice. Be nice to him and he'll be our best inside ally. Once you meet him in person for the test drive, you might want to mention this board and our experiences/threads here as well, so he's fully aware of how this is not just an isolated problem with 1-2 cars. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

05-12-2009, 07:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 490	Correct me if I'm wrong but the z doesn't go into limp mode when driven on a hot day. The z does however go into limp mode when driven on a race track. I don't see nissan doing anything for us if it only over heats on the track. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

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shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	ok so this is what we need to do aside from gathering reports and mags that claim the issue is widespread... People on this board need to chime in and say that their car is getting to high temps.. so if the op will allow it... we should start a list of all the ppl who have seen this issue in their cars and their ID so the nissan folks can ask us questions if they need more proof...

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antennahead A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 15,181 Drives: '07 Z4 "M" Roadster Rep Power: 57	Nissan reports 1st annual loss in a decade: Nissan reports 1st annual loss in a decade - BusinessWeek I wonder if this might have a little bearing on how quick they are to: "recall" and give us all an oil cooler give an oil cooler to only those that scream about the overheating issue make us pay for an approved oil cooler that doesn't invalidate the warranty none of the above John