Another 370z Gone

eclipse99fwb · 11-07-2011, 05:22 PM

Shes okay just brusied and scratches from the airbag, shaken up the most. She can't forget the feeling of climbing out the driver side, with no driver there. I agree stupid choices, that could of ended far worst than it did.

Nismoracer · 11-07-2011, 05:47 PM

I think what everyone is so curious about is why the chase? Seems simple. Mutual friends goto a bday party, drops off friend at car. Friends x meets her to get money everyone goes their separate ways... why did she not go to her vehicle? Why did she get back into her friends Z? Either way something drastic had to occur to flee the area like that.

Nismoracer · 11-07-2011, 05:49 PM

What would make anyone here flee a situation like this...

Cmike2780 · 11-07-2011, 07:32 PM

@eclipse

Thanks for sharing your side of the story. It's all semantics, but there's a fine line between "chasing" and "following". Your brother in law was"chasing" them if he was able to catch up to someone doing 100mph. I'm sorry, but I really don't buy that whole "braking" scenario either. You don't automatically lose control when you slam the brakes, even at high speeds just because it's rwd. The drive wheels are meaningless under braking. The Z lost control because he hit something, was hit by something or had the wrong reaction. If the silverado hit him in any way, that would have been enough to consider him at fault. Who's to say your brother in law didn't really ram him. We just don't really know and the evidence is going to point towards your brother in law as the aggressor

Anyway, I don't mean to pass judgement, my opinion doesn't even really matter. I'm glad your sister is okay.

RiCharlie · 11-07-2011, 08:18 PM

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I only wish he was a permitted gun carrying citizen, as soon as the truck chased him and started ramming him he likely could have stopped and shot him and been in the clear.

If only things were this simple...but they are not. Just what we need..more guns in the hands of people who are drinking and jealous boyfriends...

eclipse99fwb · 11-07-2011, 08:39 PM

Cmike2780 I wasn't there so I can't say how or why it happened, I was just reporting what the accident report said.
Heres what it says page 8: "Vehicle 2 (370z) was impeded by traffic in the roadway in front of him and applied his brakes. This cause the front of vehicle 1 (silverado) to collide withe rear of vehicle 2. The impact cause vehicle 2 to exit the roadway to the left..."
The accident report is from witness statements along with evidence, so I thought it probably is likely what happened.

I wasn't saying his braking caused him lose control, I meant the combination of braking with a rearend impact immediatly following.
just a theory but if he was going 70+mph and applied full braking power, this shifted the cars wait forward. At the same time if the car with all the weight going forward was hit from behind, would push the car into a spin.
I'm only getting this from my past experience of owning a nissan hardbody rwd truck and remembering how shifting the weight in it, I could easily get the backend to spin. Again just a theory, I'm leaving it to the police who are more experts than I.
Also I'm not trying to justify anyones action, my personal opinon is they both commited stupid acts, nothing can justify putting the public at danger like that. Lets all just learn something from this, no ones family needs to go through what that guys family is going through.

Cyberium · 11-07-2011, 11:08 PM

So the 370z was flying down the road in excess of 70+ MPH (stupid)... saw traffic and slammed on the brakes. The 370z can pretty much stop on a dime... so if some maniac wasn't tailgating him, there would of been no accident.

Glad to hear Sean can at least move hands and feet. VERY good sign.

Skeeterbop · 11-07-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyberium

Glad to hear Sean can at least move hands and feet. VERY good sign.

If he is able to move his hands and feet there is a good chance he can make a recovery. It might take lots of physical therapy but there is still a chance.

onzedge · 11-12-2011, 08:19 AM

Are there updates on how the driver is doing?

cdoxp800 · 11-12-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Are there updates on how the driver is doing?

Last i heard heard was in ICU Critical condition. They say he is parallelized from the wast down.

All this because he tried to help a girl out of a bas situation. I will try and go by his work an get more info Monday.

axio · 11-14-2011, 07:56 PM

Sorry to hear this, hoping the Z driver makes a full recovery...

PapoZalsa · 11-14-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by axio

Sorry to hear this, hoping the Z driver makes a full recovery...

Calebluna · 11-16-2011, 11:20 PM

Sean passed away tonight.......

onzedge · 11-16-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Calebluna

Sean passed away tonight.......

That is terrible news. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family and loved ones.

RoshDawg · 11-16-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Calebluna

Sean passed away tonight.......

Oh my. This is terrible. My thoughts are with his loved ones as well as him.
So tragic.

11-07-2011, 07:32 PM	#109 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	@eclipse Thanks for sharing your side of the story. It's all semantics, but there's a fine line between "chasing" and "following". Your brother in law was"chasing" them if he was able to catch up to someone doing 100mph. I'm sorry, but I really don't buy that whole "braking" scenario either. You don't automatically lose control when you slam the brakes, even at high speeds just because it's rwd. The drive wheels are meaningless under braking. The Z lost control because he hit something, was hit by something or had the wrong reaction. If the silverado hit him in any way, that would have been enough to consider him at fault. Who's to say your brother in law didn't really ram him. We just don't really know and the evidence is going to point towards your brother in law as the aggressor Anyway, I don't mean to pass judgement, my opinion doesn't even really matter. I'm glad your sister is okay. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

11-07-2011, 11:08 PM	#112 (permalink)
Cyberium Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 379 Drives: 370z Touring \| Sport Rep Power: 16	So the 370z was flying down the road in excess of 70+ MPH (stupid)... saw traffic and slammed on the brakes. The 370z can pretty much stop on a dime... so if some maniac wasn't tailgating him, there would of been no accident. Glad to hear Sean can at least move hands and feet. VERY good sign. __________________ Stillen G3 Intakes \| F. I TDX

11-12-2011, 08:19 AM	#114 (permalink)
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11-14-2011, 07:56 PM	#116 (permalink)
axio Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 271 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 16	Sorry to hear this, hoping the Z driver makes a full recovery... __________________ GTM Stg II SC w/ Aquamist methanol injection, GTM oil cooler, Berk HFC, Stillen CBE, BC ER coilovers, Hotchkis sways, TWM short shifter, Clutch spring mod, CarboTech XP8s

11-07-2011, 05:22 PM	#106 (permalink)
eclipse99fwb Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Denver CO Posts: 3 Drives: cavalier Rep Power: 14	Shes okay just brusied and scratches from the airbag, shaken up the most. She can't forget the feeling of climbing out the driver side, with no driver there. I agree stupid choices, that could of ended far worst than it did.

11-07-2011, 05:47 PM	#107 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 15	I think what everyone is so curious about is why the chase? Seems simple. Mutual friends goto a bday party, drops off friend at car. Friends x meets her to get money everyone goes their separate ways... why did she not go to her vehicle? Why did she get back into her friends Z? Either way something drastic had to occur to flee the area like that.

11-07-2011, 05:49 PM	#108 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 15	What would make anyone here flee a situation like this...

11-07-2011, 08:39 PM	#111 (permalink)
eclipse99fwb Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Denver CO Posts: 3 Drives: cavalier Rep Power: 14	Cmike2780 I wasn't there so I can't say how or why it happened, I was just reporting what the accident report said. Heres what it says page 8: "Vehicle 2 (370z) was impeded by traffic in the roadway in front of him and applied his brakes. This cause the front of vehicle 1 (silverado) to collide withe rear of vehicle 2. The impact cause vehicle 2 to exit the roadway to the left..." The accident report is from witness statements along with evidence, so I thought it probably is likely what happened. I wasn't saying his braking caused him lose control, I meant the combination of braking with a rearend impact immediatly following. just a theory but if he was going 70+mph and applied full braking power, this shifted the cars wait forward. At the same time if the car with all the weight going forward was hit from behind, would push the car into a spin. I'm only getting this from my past experience of owning a nissan hardbody rwd truck and remembering how shifting the weight in it, I could easily get the backend to spin. Again just a theory, I'm leaving it to the police who are more experts than I. Also I'm not trying to justify anyones action, my personal opinon is they both commited stupid acts, nothing can justify putting the public at danger like that. Lets all just learn something from this, no ones family needs to go through what that guys family is going through.

11-16-2011, 11:20 PM	#118 (permalink)
Calebluna Base Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Navarre Posts: 10 Drives: 1989 240sx, sr20det Rep Power: 14	Sean passed away tonight.......