Z06 vs. 370Z

Skeeterbop · 10-29-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

road and track claimed the nismo pads cut ten feet off their stops on initial performance. True, or skewed data?

I can't say one way or the other, but saying the sport package brakes aren't up for spirited driving isn't true.

Zemurray · 10-29-2011, 11:23 AM

I can tell you that mine isn't using any oil as some have reported with the 2010. And on the brakes question, I haven't taken mine down to the mountains but the brakes feel great on mine for street driving. I'm especially pleased with the low dust that makes keeping the wheels clean a breeze. I won't be changing the pads out.

KaienZ34 · 10-29-2011, 11:24 AM

The sport brakes are fine for the street. They won't do well after a few laps at the track.

KaienZ34 · 10-29-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

I can tell you that mine isn't using any oil as some have reported with the 2010. And on the brakes question, I haven't taken mine down to the mountains but the brakes feel great on mine for street driving. I'm especially pleased with the low dust that makes keeping the wheels clean a breeze. I won't be changing the pads out.

All around i've had mine since early 09 and zero oil burning problems and i check the level at least once a week.

ImportConvert · 10-29-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

Not sure on the 50k mile question. I would be inclined to say definitely, but as this is my first Nissan I'm not sure. I can tell you my wife had an exterra that had 75k miles on it and drove like new. And my experience with the other two big Japanese manufacturers would indicate it should be very solid. I've been completely happy with the quality of the other two cars.
Friend had an Xterra. Fell apart rather fast and she dumped it.
It seems it will be hard to quantify how well it will hold up in this crowd. With so many guys hacking them up, lowering them, throwing turbo's on them, and tracking them, it won't get a fair analysis for how well it holds up as an OEM sports car driven on the street by normal people. I haven't looked at your other thread, but I would think there should be a number of people who drive the cars stock or mostly stock that should have valid input.

It seems everything is hit/miss now days.

ImportConvert · 10-29-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

I can tell you that mine isn't using any oil as some have reported with the 2010. And on the brakes question, I haven't taken mine down to the mountains but the brakes feel great on mine for street driving. I'm especially pleased with the low dust that makes keeping the wheels clean a breeze. I won't be changing the pads out.

That sounds nice. I can literally take my Z06 around the block and the comp-gray rims are reddish/brown from all the dust.

Skeeterbop · 10-29-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

The sport brakes are fine for the street. They won't do well after a few laps at the track.

100%

ImportConvert · 10-29-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

All around i've had mine since early 09 and zero oil burning problems and i check the level at least once a week.

How does the rest of the car feel? Feel nice like new, or starting to sqeak/flex over bumps? I know from experience the 350Z's were horrible. Worse than my F-bodies, but the 370Z is supposedly much stiffer.

KaienZ34 · 10-29-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

How does the rest of the car feel? Feel nice like new, or starting to sqeak/flex over bumps? I know from experience the 350Z's were horrible. Worse than my F-bodies, but the 370Z is supposedly much stiffer.

I do hear some sqeaks but it's comparable to my wife 09 G8 GT that was bought just a few months before my Z. Although me being 20's and rubber band tires i feel the road more and hotchkis sway bar makes it a bit stiffer.

Zemurray · 10-29-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

That sounds nice. I can literally take my Z06 around the block and the comp-gray rims are reddish/brown from all the dust.

Yeah, it is real nice. I can drive it all weekend and my wheels are the 40th anniversary graphite colored, and you can't see any brake dust. I usually just wipe them down with some detailing spray once a weekend and they keep looking brand new.

ImportConvert · 10-29-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Zemurray

Yeah, it is real nice. I can drive it all weekend and my wheels are the 40th anniversary graphite colored, and you can't see any brake dust. I usually just wipe them down with some detailing spray once a weekend and they keep looking brand new.

I wish Nissan still offered that color of interior in a coupe. Or some of the other colors. They killed yellow, and the persimmon is only available in 2 or 3 color combo's now.

Either way, I keep hearing nothing but good about the interior, which is my motivation to trade. Lots of complaint over the drive-line, though, regarding NVH.

How bad is it, really? Sucks compared to your Honda, or have you driven 'vettes/F-bodies/Mustangs, etc?

KaienZ34 · 10-29-2011, 12:02 PM

My offer still stands, if you wanted to ride in some 370's and compare stock to nismo to springs to coilovers. Different exhausts and power setups, wheel and tire combos, base models, touring, sport, nismo, we've got quite a few different things going on your call.

Zemurray · 10-29-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I wish Nissan still offered that color of interior in a coupe. Or some of the other colors. They killed yellow, and the persimmon is only available in 2 or 3 color combo's now.

Either way, I keep hearing nothing but good about the interior, which is my motivation to trade. Lots of complaint over the drive-line, though, regarding NVH.

How bad is it, really? Sucks compared to your Honda, or have you driven 'vettes/F-bodies/Mustangs, etc?

How bad is what? The accelaration? I haven't driven a modern vette, I've owned two camaro's as mentioned previously. I've driven a lot of muscle cars. I've also raced motorcycles for a few years and have ridden a bunch of them, including the new BMW on the race track. That's 180 rwhp in a 439lb package, so I definitely know what fast is. I find the 370z to be plenty fast for me, but I'm not looking to blow up every stop light. The car will light up the traction control in first and second gear with ease. Turn off the traction control and you can hang your *** out in the wind all day long. In a nut shell it's got enough power to have fun. Go test drive one and get on it a bit. There isn't any reason not to find out. You don't have to take it up to 7k to feel it out. Surely the salesman won't mind you reving to 5k in a couple of gears. That will show you what it has.

roplusbee · 10-29-2011, 05:37 PM

I like the one about how will the car feel after 50K. I have owned all Nissan vehicles with the exception of 2 Chevy's (used 88 Celebrity, used 93 Beretta) and a Mazda (new 04 3i, which I returned cause it had problems). I had a 96 Altima, 04 Sentra Spec V, 2 89 240SXs, 90 200SX (Euro S13 Hatch), and a 96 240SX. All of them were rock solid except the 200SX and that is because the owner installed a LPG tank in the hatch and did absolutely nothing to the car except add fuel (and that rediculous LPG system). With about half a year, I nursed that car back to life with a lot of parts and countless hours at the auto hobbyshop. Then it too was rock solid. I expect my 09 NISMO to be pretty much the same I remember it on the drive home from the dealer (AR to TX), which was rock solid.

I have mixed feelings about VDC. I prefer to drive with it off, but I have learned to drive "spirited" with it still on. Just no quick shifts from 1-2 or 2-3 at high RPMs. Again I usually leave it off except for inclimate weather situations. I also only use SRM only when I use VDC.

For my purposes, the brake have been awesome so far. I have not been to the track yet, but have done plenty of "spirited" driving throughout various interesting areas. I have the NISMO Pads as well.

The sound system sucked bad in the NISMO, but I am used to having somethng custom in the car anyway, so that was not an issue to me at all. Now I have Kenwood DNX6960 and a Wicked C.A.S Magic Box. Problem solved.

The exhaust was so quiet, that I had a hard time getting in tune with the car. Now I have a F.I TDX and it is what I imagined a Z to sound like all along. Things may be different once I get my car back, as I took the TT plunge and may need to revisit some things in the future. But time will tell.

The stock tires on the NISMO are Yokohama ADVANS and they are outstanding all around. Treadware was rated at 180, but I got 25K out of my rears and used them in the snow (while driving back to Texas after the holiday season) with no issues.

Are the better cars out there? Definitely. With this car put a big grin on your face? For sure! Sorry for the book, but I just had to get all that out. Hopefully it is meaningfull to you. If not, meh.........

Rob

ImportConvert · 10-29-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

My offer still stands, if you wanted to ride in some 370's and compare stock to nismo to springs to coilovers. Different exhausts and power setups, wheel and tire combos, base models, touring, sport, nismo, we've got quite a few different things going on your call.

Where/who is "we"?

10-29-2011, 11:24 AM	#183 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 178	The sport brakes are fine for the street. They won't do well after a few laps at the track. __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

10-29-2011, 12:02 PM	#192 (permalink)
KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 178	My offer still stands, if you wanted to ride in some 370's and compare stock to nismo to springs to coilovers. Different exhausts and power setups, wheel and tire combos, base models, touring, sport, nismo, we've got quite a few different things going on your call. __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

10-29-2011, 05:37 PM	#194 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 23	I like the one about how will the car feel after 50K. I have owned all Nissan vehicles with the exception of 2 Chevy's (used 88 Celebrity, used 93 Beretta) and a Mazda (new 04 3i, which I returned cause it had problems). I had a 96 Altima, 04 Sentra Spec V, 2 89 240SXs, 90 200SX (Euro S13 Hatch), and a 96 240SX. All of them were rock solid except the 200SX and that is because the owner installed a LPG tank in the hatch and did absolutely nothing to the car except add fuel (and that rediculous LPG system). With about half a year, I nursed that car back to life with a lot of parts and countless hours at the auto hobbyshop. Then it too was rock solid. I expect my 09 NISMO to be pretty much the same I remember it on the drive home from the dealer (AR to TX), which was rock solid. I have mixed feelings about VDC. I prefer to drive with it off, but I have learned to drive "spirited" with it still on. Just no quick shifts from 1-2 or 2-3 at high RPMs. Again I usually leave it off except for inclimate weather situations. I also only use SRM only when I use VDC. For my purposes, the brake have been awesome so far. I have not been to the track yet, but have done plenty of "spirited" driving throughout various interesting areas. I have the NISMO Pads as well. The sound system sucked bad in the NISMO, but I am used to having somethng custom in the car anyway, so that was not an issue to me at all. Now I have Kenwood DNX6960 and a Wicked C.A.S Magic Box. Problem solved. The exhaust was so quiet, that I had a hard time getting in tune with the car. Now I have a F.I TDX and it is what I imagined a Z to sound like all along. Things may be different once I get my car back, as I took the TT plunge and may need to revisit some things in the future. But time will tell. The stock tires on the NISMO are Yokohama ADVANS and they are outstanding all around. Treadware was rated at 180, but I got 25K out of my rears and used them in the snow (while driving back to Texas after the holiday season) with no issues. Are the better cars out there? Definitely. With this car put a big grin on your face? For sure! Sorry for the book, but I just had to get all that out. Hopefully it is meaningfull to you. If not, meh......... Rob __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

10-29-2011, 11:23 AM	#182 (permalink)
Zemurray Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: La Grange, KY Posts: 117 Drives: 78 280z, 40th 370z Rep Power: 14	I can tell you that mine isn't using any oil as some have reported with the 2010. And on the brakes question, I haven't taken mine down to the mountains but the brakes feel great on mine for street driving. I'm especially pleased with the low dust that makes keeping the wheels clean a breeze. I won't be changing the pads out.