2012 Model Will Have OIl Cooler

Red__Zed · 10-12-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Why have no manufacturers uses a thermostatic plate, though? I suspect that there is a liability associated with it since they have almost universally refused to use one.

I think it is just money.

Most manufacturers stay away from air coolers on the whole-- moving oil is a liability, moving coolant is no problem.

6MT · 10-12-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

Then I'd assume they'll be doing a recall to add oil coolers to our car.

sorry

b1adesofcha0s · 10-12-2011, 10:09 PM

So would I have any issues with an aftermarket oil cooler and driving in the snow/very cold temps?

ImportConvert · 10-12-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I think it is just money.

Most manufacturers stay away from air coolers on the whole-- moving oil is a liability, moving coolant is no problem.

I disagree. GM was using a plate system and then spent the money to develop the coolant/oil system for the ZR1. They then stopped using plate systems on the Z06 in 2011.

Red__Zed · 10-12-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I disagree. GM was using a plate system and then spent the money to develop the coolant/oil system for the ZR1. They then stopped using plate systems on the Z06 in 2011.

upfront costs are different than per-unit costs.

esfourteen · 10-12-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Just got off the phone with Nissan North America, got some interesting info...kinda making me regret trading my car in.

A factory installed/warrantied oil cooler and some sound deadening is making you regret trading in your car?

ImportConvert · 10-12-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

upfront costs are different than per-unit costs.

Well, I highly doubt the oil/coolant setup is a new concept. Why not use it initially instead of waiting for the ZR1 to put the money into developing it, along with the other cooling system enhancements on the ZR1?

If it is cheaper, why use it on the Z06 (recently) and the ZR1, and NOT the Grand Sport, which they sell a lot more of and use the plate-type cooler on?

cossie1600 · 10-12-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

So would I have any issues with an aftermarket oil cooler and driving in the snow/very cold temps?

It's not ideal to run around with 140F oil, but what are you going to do when it is 20F out. I used blue painters tape to tape up the oil cooler last year because i got too lazy to do anything on my 2 miles commute....

b1adesofcha0s · 10-12-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

It's not ideal to run around with 140F oil, but what are you going to do when it is 20F out. I used blue painters tape to tape up the oil cooler last year because i got too lazy to do anything on my 2 miles commute....

Not sure. I don't have an oil cooler yet, but was planning on getting one eventually. Problem is, I DD my Z including in the winter even if it snows.

esfourteen · 10-12-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Not sure. I don't have an oil cooler yet, but was planning on getting one eventually. Problem is, I DD my Z including in the winter even if it snows.

Just run a block off plate once it starts getting cold out, I'll be putting one on in november.

ImportConvert · 10-12-2011, 10:39 PM

What makes me really laugh is that I said this setup would be ideal and then everyone whined and bitched about how much it would cost to do a setup like GM did. Now Nissan did it and you are all whining some more, lol.

here many of you are in this thread here telling me crap about "This is Nissan and not GM" and other such mess when I tried to talk some sense into you.
oil cooler

Well...in the words of Cartman, suck my bawwwlllss!!!!!
(Presuming of course that Nissan doesn't use a plate setup. In which case you have already shown that you think it is CHEAPER and VERY PLAUSIBLE for them to use the setup we are currently discussing. You just sing a different tune because it's YOUR idea now.)

b1adesofcha0s · 10-12-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen

Just run a block off plate once it starts getting cold out, I'll be putting one on in november.

Good to know

Red__Zed · 10-12-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

What makes me really laugh is that I said this setup would be ideal and then everyone whined and bitched about how much it would cost to do a setup like GM did. Now Nissan did it and you are all whining some more, lol.

here many of you are in this thread here telling me crap about "This is Nissan and not GM" and other such mess when I tried to talk some sense into you.
oil cooler

Well...in the words of Cartman, suck my bawwwlllss!!!!!

wat?

ImportConvert · 10-12-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

wat?

Go read the thread. Everyone in there was whining and bitching that I would bring up GM's solution to the problem. Now that they are saying Nissan has done it, it's a "cheap option", etc. etc. etc. instead of their party line of "It's too expensive, Nissan isn't GM, blah blah blah".

Amazing how everyone changes their tune when they think it's "their" idea. Go read the thread and then come back here and see what the same people are saying.

Red__Zed · 10-12-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Go read the thread. Everyone in there was whining and bitching that I would bring up GM's solution to the problem. Now that they are saying Nissan has done it, it's a "cheap option", etc. etc. etc. instead of their party line of "It's too expensive, Nissan isn't GM, blah blah blah"

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ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	What makes me really laugh is that I said this setup would be ideal and then everyone whined and bitched about how much it would cost to do a setup like GM did. Now Nissan did it and you are all whining some more, lol. here many of you are in this thread here telling me crap about "This is Nissan and not GM" and other such mess when I tried to talk some sense into you. oil cooler Well...in the words of Cartman, suck my bawwwlllss!!!!! (Presuming of course that Nissan doesn't use a plate setup. In which case you have already shown that you think it is CHEAPER and VERY PLAUSIBLE for them to use the setup we are currently discussing. You just sing a different tune because it's YOUR idea now.) Last edited by ImportConvert; 10-12-2011 at 10:44 PM.

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