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Old 10-08-2011, 01:04 PM   #46 (permalink)
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At 97-99 degrees, I hit 260 with my oil cooler at the track.

Without one it was easy off track to hit 260 in 70 degree weather.
hummmm...! so they designed the Z for lazy fat midwesteners... ok.. not good. i need to get a oil cooler just to be not stereotyped as fat.
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They will just remove the gauge, issues solved
That's so very true for DD abd small events like auto x
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No. Would I have found value in waiting a year or more to finally enjoy my car. No. What is the delta between the MSRP 2009 and the 2012 when they were new? My oil cooler was $880 installed at the dealership. Less than a few dollars a day at worst.

I've gotten over it. I hope you can too.
This^. This is my "beef". I bought the car knowing full well it didn't have and needed an oil cooler. I'm not getting mad at Nissan because I chose to buy a car and enjoy it for a year and a half with no oil cooler. And I'm not expecting them to just give me something for free.
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yah, i dont care if it's not free either.
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This^. This is my "beef". I bought the car knowing full well it didn't have and needed an oil cooler. I'm not getting mad at Nissan because I chose to buy a car and enjoy it for a year and a half with no oil cooler. And I'm not expecting them to just give me something for free.
I like your attitude. I must admit I should have known about the oil cooler before hand yet I didn't realize it until after my purchase and still I do not care.

A nice gesture from Nissan would be to discount future OC purchases to those who now need/want them. I would be excluded since I already got one. Besides the dealer ate labor anyway.
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hummmm...! so they designed the Z for lazy fat midwesteners... ok.. not good. i need to get a oil cooler just to be not stereotyped as fat.

Too late, I do not understand your fat reference, but you've already been stereotyped as Asian, and that is not fat.
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That's so very true for DD abd small events like auto x
Most of the people pissing over it have never seen the track or even autox. They keep this magic number in their head of 190 as the guideline since that's how cars were built back in the days. With stricter emission, better oil and materials, car engines are running hotter and hotter in order to meet it. Most cars' operating temperature are in the low 200 range as they are more efficient at that temperature. If the gauge was never put in the car, half the people wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between 200F and 250F. Did it bother me at first? Sure. Yet I have gotten over it, I barely look at the gauge at this point.
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I think that at most the only thing that is fair to ask of Nissan is that if an OEM cooler is installed at a dealership it will be warrantied as though it were an OEM component on THAT car.

Very impressed if Nissan really is doing this. I would also expect to see "soft" changes, such as maybe some insulation added, a few very minor suspension tweaks, etc. Every car manufacturer does this that I know of. They just don't publicize any of the "soft" changes unless you really dig.

All that being said, nowhere on Nissan's site is the oil cooler mentioned. It is not mentioned in the 2012 Owner's manual, either.

If it really does exist, then GM had better do well with the C7. Looking to down-size in another year and the 370Z remains at the top of my list, just waiting to see what GM and Nissan do with their platforms.

(Does this mean we will FINALLY get some ring times now that the car can make it around the 'ring?)

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Most of the people pissing over it have never seen the track or even autox. They keep this magic number in their head of 190 as the guideline since that's how cars were built back in the days. With stricter emission, better oil and materials, car engines are running hotter and hotter in order to meet it. Most cars' operating temperature are in the low 200 range as they are more efficient at that temperature. If the gauge was never put in the car, half the people wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between 200F and 250F. Did it bother me at first? Sure. Yet I have gotten over it, I barely look at the gauge at this point.
I have seen the track. I don't fret at 190,220 or 250 even. Its when I see my engine hitting 260 and I haven't really pushed it. This issue wasn't even real to me in my 09. Zenobia was my baby. Near 150mph and staying in that range, keeping my RPM's in the high 4000
Rpm's and all my car would see is 250 degrees. Now my car sees a little action on a hot day and I see 260. That's wack. Straight up and down, it should have been added.

Some of you act like people are whining because they want something else for free. Like getting this oil cooler is some kind of envy for pre 12 owners. On ghe contrary, we are mostly happy. Its just this has been an issue since june of 09. Of all the wannabe complaints like... oh it rides to rough or its too loud or it doesn't have backseats or have the other bulls**t complaints that run around this forum. The oil issue has been well documented for years. Many of us aggressive or track drivers have seen it at one time of our lives and I don't think its too much to ask for those"WHO ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT TO WARRANTY THE PART."

I'm not the only one buying nissan after nissan. Plenty of us own 3 or more nissans currently as I. Some of you talk like getting a warranteed oil cooler asking for a handout. When I'm on my next purchase, my confidence in my brand of choice won't be jaded by the rep of band aid fixes versus complete resolution of the problem for all customers. They haven't even sold a whole 40k units in all these years and they will probably only sell 5000 coolers at best. So just warranty the part at least as an act of good faith on standing by a performance product.
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This^. This is my "beef". I bought the car knowing full well it didn't have and needed an oil cooler. I'm not getting mad at Nissan because I chose to buy a car and enjoy it for a year and a half with no oil cooler. And I'm not expecting them to just give me something for free.
NOBODY'S GETTING MAD NOBODY SAID FREE. ONLY WARRANTIED.
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I don't blame you for complaining as I have plenty of gripes over Nissan myself, and I have owned plenty of Nissans myself (I just recently had my $30 oil change taken away because I was 8 miles over the contract). I just think you are barking up the wrong tree and are getting too worked up over nothing. If you are consistently getting into limp mode, then yes I would be pissed and it is tough to swallow paying that $600. I just think it isn't as big of a problem as you think as most people are not going to hit 150mph (the only track that can get that fast are rovals since no tracks in NOrth America will let a stock Z hit 150mph due to the room it needs) nor will they hit limp mode everyday on their way to work. Where do you stop? Are you going to recall every car for fuel starvation too? I would argue that's a bigger issue and it can be a safety thing, same with the inaccurate fuel gauge.

Since this is turning into a Mustang forum, what about guys who bought a 2010 and got a 4.6L motor? Should they recall their cars and install a 5.0? I just don't think any manufactures are going to risk that much unless it is safety.

I would be curious to see what kind of cooler is it, I am willing to bet it is an oil warmer on the oil filter.
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I think the people who say you only need an oil cooler if you track your Z simply are ones that have a Z that doesn't run hot. They all aren't created equal. I know mine was hitting 250 just on the highway cruising at highway speeds when it was hot out. Even when it was really cold out and cruising on the highway it would be at least 220.

I am happy to hear they are finally making it a stock option on the car. I definitely don't regret getting the oil cooler for my Z.
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does anyone know what size the new stock oil cooler will be? 19 or 25 row?
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I don't blame you for complaining as I have plenty of gripes over Nissan myself, and I have owned plenty of Nissans myself (I just recently had my $30 oil change taken away because I was 8 miles over the contract). I just think you are barking up the wrong tree and are getting too worked up over nothing. If you are consistently getting into limp mode, then yes I would be pissed and it is tough to swallow paying that $600. I just think it isn't as big of a problem as you think as most people are not going to hit 150mph (the only track that can get that fast are rovals since no tracks in NOrth America will let a stock Z hit 150mph due to the room it needs) nor will they hit limp mode everyday on their way to work. Where do you stop? Are you going to recall every car for fuel starvation too? I would argue that's a bigger issue and it can be a safety thing, same with the inaccurate fuel gauge.

Since this is turning into a Mustang forum, what about guys who bought a 2010 and got a 4.6L motor? Should they recall their cars and install a 5.0? I just don't think any manufactures are going to risk that much unless it is safety.
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I would be curious to see what kind of cooler is it, I am willing to bet it is an oil warmer on the oil filter.


Really dude??? Are truely serious with this comparison???? Are you like 23 or something that basic business sense doesn't quite compute yet? I don't see 350z owners asking for VQ37HR's. I just see some of us asking for a $400 retail part to be OFFERED as a part at the dealership FOR PURCHASE that will be covered under the remainder of our powertain warranties or give us 12/12 on the part for cars with 60/120k miles.

AND YOU'RE WRONG! BMW RETROFITTED FREE OIL COOLERS ON 07 AND 08 3 SERIES. SO A CAR COMPANY DID DO IT. Ithose years the average 3 series purchase cost 38 to 44k. The same range most of us are buying Z's

I'M NOT EXPECTING Nissan to go above and beyond and give out 45k units in free oil coolers "LIKE BMW DID IN 08". And the 3 series is not considered a sports car. I would just like the option to purchase one with some protection for my 38k purchase. Do you buy a computer with the 3 year protection plan? They need to offer this part because my ADDING THE OIL COOLER IN 2012. NISSAN IS BASICALLY ADMITTING THEY "FVVKD UP. So they can at least come half correct?

IN REALITY. I'm going FI. The nissan issue oil cooler will probably be to small for the added power. I will most likely need more rows than they will offer. Its just about being good businessmen and offering a RETROFIT for for a fee on their high performance vehicle.
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i am betting a sandwitch adapter type like the 350 and most cars
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