2012 Model Will Have OIl Cooler

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 08:54 PM

I think what Jose meant was that it happens if you don't know how to drive to avoid limp mode... you just have to take it a little easier and try to let the car rest at lower revs where you can. On the street it doesn't mean you can't have fun, it just means you can't drive at 10/10ths for an extended period without the oil cooler.

At ZDayZ 2010 I got it up to 250-260 degrees and that included hitting 2nd gear in a few of the hair pins. I didn't maintain consistently high-revs or flog the car on the straights, though. I would hit 4th or even 5th on some of the longer stretches to keep the engine as cool as I could and that worked fine.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-08-2011, 01:25 AM

My third day with this new Z, didn't take it past 4600rpm, but it was 106 outside. I hit 260 degrees. I was disapponted because I ran the hell out of my 09 for long periods of time. Bouncing of rev limiters and being very hard on the accelerator. I wouldn't pass 250dg. So Nissan better make a warranty oil cooler for us old model owners. Its only right. I don't care if we get charged... We been petitioning it out of a desperate need to improve our cars performance. In northern states it matters less. In tx and other hot southern states. An oil cooler is a big deal.

shadoquad · 10-08-2011, 01:27 AM

Unknown,

They may offer one for purchase and install costs, but they won't just give em away.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-08-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Unknown,

They may offer one for purchase and install costs, but they won't just give em away.

Yeah, if you read my post again, it says "I don't care if we get charged".

shadoquad · 10-08-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah, if you read my post again, it says "I don't care if we get charged".

I read that, but you made it seem like this was something Nissan owes you. It's not.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-08-2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I read that, but you made it seem like this was something Nissan owes you. It's not.

they owe themselves to put the best product possible. As a 7 time nissan owner, if I showed them over $200,000 in loyalty. They can show me a warranty for a $700 part. Bimmer did the right thing with there custy's in 08. I'm not asking what hasn't been done before. So what's your beef?

Forrest · 10-08-2011, 04:44 AM

Did any previous generation owners get mad reading this like I did?

moto_italia · 10-08-2011, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrest

Did any previous generation owners get mad reading this like I did?

Limp mode to me was an admission that they knew of the problem but did not want to spend the money to put an oil cooler on the car to fix it. Limp mode treats the symptom, not the problem.

I wouldn't say I'm mad ... a little amazed it took 3 model years to actually fix the problem and not just try to address the symptom. I guess that Nissan got tired of reading articles by major automotive magazines about how the car went into limp mode and thus couldn't compete in a car comparison or be fully evaluated.

For me, it's the greatest disappointment I have with the car. I'm disappointed with the fact that an owner of a 370Z can operate the car within Nissan's pre-determined acceptable range of engine RPM's, and yet the car may not be able to operate safely as it may have to invoke a "safe" limp mode.

I hadn't owned a Japanese car in 25 years until I bought the 370Z, and while I am impressed with how great of a car it is for the price, this is a bit disappointing. Perhaps I shouldn't expect so much.

Mt Tam I am · 10-08-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest

Did any previous generation owners get mad reading this like I did?

No. Would I have found value in waiting a year or more to finally enjoy my car. No. What is the delta between the MSRP 2009 and the 2012 when they were new? My oil cooler was $880 installed at the dealership. Less than a few dollars a day at worst.

I've gotten over it. I hope you can too.

shadoquad · 10-08-2011, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

No. Would I have found value in waiting a year or more to finally enjoy my car. No. What is the delta between the MSRP 2009 and the 2012 when they were new? My oil cooler was $880 installed at the dealership. Less than a few dollars a day at worst.

I've gotten over it. I hope you can too.

This^. This is my "beef". I bought the car knowing full well it didn't have and needed an oil cooler. I'm not getting mad at Nissan because I chose to buy a car and enjoy it for a year and a half with no oil cooler. And I'm not expecting them to just give me something for free.

Mt Tam I am · 10-08-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

This^. This is my "beef". I bought the car knowing full well it didn't have and needed an oil cooler. I'm not getting mad at Nissan because I chose to buy a car and enjoy it for a year and a half with no oil cooler. And I'm not expecting them to just give me something for free.

I like your attitude. I must admit I should have known about the oil cooler before hand yet I didn't realize it until after my purchase and still I do not care.

A nice gesture from Nissan would be to discount future OC purchases to those who now need/want them. I would be excluded since I already got one. Besides the dealer ate labor anyway.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-08-2011, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad

This^. This is my "beef". I bought the car knowing full well it didn't have and needed an oil cooler. I'm not getting mad at Nissan because I chose to buy a car and enjoy it for a year and a half with no oil cooler. And I'm not expecting them to just give me something for free.

NOBODY'S GETTING MAD NOBODY SAID FREE. ONLY WARRANTIED.

SPOHN · 10-08-2011, 09:40 AM

I hope the dealers get the memo in there heads. I now see the service men not putting enough oil in cars due to a added cooler. Hell they can't even remember to tighten the drain plug in several cases.

bigsix · 10-08-2011, 10:19 AM

I'm sure you guys must wonder why Nissan didn't engineer the VQ37 to have an oil cooler from the beginning. . .

It is good to see they have addressed the problem.

Streetlife · 10-08-2011, 11:05 AM

Good News!!! I have a 2012 on Preorder. That's one mod i can take off my list!

10-07-2011, 08:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	I think what Jose meant was that it happens if you don't know how to drive to avoid limp mode... you just have to take it a little easier and try to let the car rest at lower revs where you can. On the street it doesn't mean you can't have fun, it just means you can't drive at 10/10ths for an extended period without the oil cooler. At ZDayZ 2010 I got it up to 250-260 degrees and that included hitting 2nd gear in a few of the hair pins. I didn't maintain consistently high-revs or flog the car on the straights, though. I would hit 4th or even 5th on some of the longer stretches to keep the engine as cool as I could and that worked fine. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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10-08-2011, 09:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 222	I hope the dealers get the memo in there heads. I now see the service men not putting enough oil in cars due to a added cooler. Hell they can't even remember to tighten the drain plug in several cases. __________________

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10-08-2011, 01:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	My third day with this new Z, didn't take it past 4600rpm, but it was 106 outside. I hit 260 degrees. I was disapponted because I ran the hell out of my 09 for long periods of time. Bouncing of rev limiters and being very hard on the accelerator. I wouldn't pass 250dg. So Nissan better make a warranty oil cooler for us old model owners. Its only right. I don't care if we get charged... We been petitioning it out of a desperate need to improve our cars performance. In northern states it matters less. In tx and other hot southern states. An oil cooler is a big deal.

10-08-2011, 01:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Unknown, They may offer one for purchase and install costs, but they won't just give em away.

10-08-2011, 10:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
bigsix A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,227 Drives: Honda City/Mazda 2 Rep Power: 19	I'm sure you guys must wonder why Nissan didn't engineer the VQ37 to have an oil cooler from the beginning. . . It is good to see they have addressed the problem.

10-08-2011, 11:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
Streetlife Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 466 Drives: 2012 370z Mont/sport Rep Power: 16	Good News!!! I have a 2012 on Preorder. That's one mod i can take off my list!