What's with all the 370Z wannabes?

Rui Z · 10-04-2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Well, technically the OP would have to admit that the 370Z is copying the FT-HS concept.

Carbon_z · 10-04-2011, 10:30 PM

The 370z copied the 350z and 08 G37 hahaha

waaaasabi · 10-04-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Where does it say "Seen in 2007"?

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

I think a little bit of due diligence would be reading the article I posted and finding that it wasn't actually stated in there....

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Sorry I was looking in the FT-HS link - you're right.

Damnit! I made this nifty graphic (because I have no life) and, f*ck it, I'm gonna use it!

And yeah, I used Powerpoint, deal with it.

m4a1mustang · 10-04-2011, 10:36 PM

Repped

Skeeterbop · 10-04-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Uh that's excatly what I said - those are parts from different cars - styling cues - not very close copies from most angles.....

Ok then why don't you prove how the Z is a ground breaking design and doesn't use styling cues that other cars haven't used. This is pointless to argue, how hard is it to accept that they aren't copying the Z and just using tried and true sports car styling? I'll keep reading the thread cause people are posting up some funny pics, but I'm done arguing the point.

emx620 · 10-04-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LT419

Mother Nature's up to it too...

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-04-2011, 11:33 PM

Its not fair to call these cars wannabe's simply because they all have a previous history like the Z. The original corollas were some fun azz "Punto-Ocho's" that really set it off for jdm tuning. The Z was the first car to get high recognition, but the tuner scene originally started with the toyota corollas and mazda rx3 etc... these cars were stereotyped as ricers back then but they shocked people on the track. Then came celica's supras then starions. Which the Mitsubishi starion founded the first ECU tunes back in 1982. As though nissans were affordable but much more expensive than the above. So toyotas, mazdas and mitsu's were the original poor mans rockets. Nissan was the more expensive niché car that saw tuners from older used models vs tthe other brands that were tuned from new or newer year models. Later on civic crx, and preludes entered the seen putting honda on the tuning map hardcore out of left field.

The FR-S is being compared to its corolla predecessor, the FT-86. One of the best original import tuner platforms of the early 80's. That hatchback was sick. I would love for mitsu to bring the starion back.

PS. There is no resemblence between the FR-S and Z. I just don't see it. It looks like a sleeker version of the new scion tc.

Jordo! · 10-04-2011, 11:38 PM

Actually, a lot of the Z's lines look like they were adapted from the Panamera.

The FR-S will not look as sexy as the Scion concept (unfortunately) and the FT-HS (which the FR-S is somewhat based on) will probably never be built.

That said, all sports cars have similar lines, and there's only a few variations on the basic sports coupe shape out there.

Supercars tend to look completely different, but regular sports coupes definitely have many lines in common.

Really, all car manufacturers borrow from one another...

TreeSemdyZee · 10-05-2011, 03:00 AM

"A" or "B"=groundbreaking. "Z"=copy.

jaedub · 10-05-2011, 03:06 AM

if you didnt know, the FR-S a.k.a ft-86 has been out for about 3 years (concept). The toyota supra has been out for about 6 years (concept). So technically speaking, these 2 cars has been made wayyyyy before the 370z.

ImportConvert · 10-05-2011, 07:18 AM

*sigh*

The 370Z is as much a copy as anything else.
From the mid 60's...

Red__Zed · 10-05-2011, 08:23 AM

Little late to the party, eh?

LunaZ · 10-05-2011, 08:37 AM

A couple more classic GT cars that share the classic shape and styling cues that Toyota is "copying":

Toyota 2000 GT (Copying themselves?)

Ferrari 365 GTB4 Daytona

TVR Griffith (Holy catfish!)

Opel GT7 (More dolphin than shark, but we didn't know the word "Tiburon" yet)

Triumph GT6

ProfessorDave · 10-05-2011, 10:33 AM

I want those.

wdkwang · 10-05-2011, 10:52 AM

OP, the 370 is based off the 240, and the 240 is based off the porsche 911.

also, ibtl

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Its not fair to call these cars wannabe's simply because they all have a previous history like the Z. The original corollas were some fun azz "Punto-Ocho's" that really set it off for jdm tuning. The Z was the first car to get high recognition, but the tuner scene originally started with the toyota corollas and mazda rx3 etc... these cars were stereotyped as ricers back then but they shocked people on the track. Then came celica's supras then starions. Which the Mitsubishi starion founded the first ECU tunes back in 1982. As though nissans were affordable but much more expensive than the above. So toyotas, mazdas and mitsu's were the original poor mans rockets. Nissan was the more expensive niché car that saw tuners from older used models vs tthe other brands that were tuned from new or newer year models. Later on civic crx, and preludes entered the seen putting honda on the tuning map hardcore out of left field. The FR-S is being compared to its corolla predecessor, the FT-86. One of the best original import tuner platforms of the early 80's. That hatchback was sick. I would love for mitsu to bring the starion back. PS. There is no resemblence between the FR-S and Z. I just don't see it. It looks like a sleeker version of the new scion tc. Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 10-04-2011 at 11:35 PM.

10-04-2011, 11:38 PM	#53 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Actually, a lot of the Z's lines look like they were adapted from the Panamera. The FR-S will not look as sexy as the Scion concept (unfortunately) and the FT-HS (which the FR-S is somewhat based on) will probably never be built. That said, all sports cars have similar lines, and there's only a few variations on the basic sports coupe shape out there. Supercars tend to look completely different, but regular sports coupes definitely have many lines in common. Really, all car manufacturers borrow from one another... __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

10-05-2011, 07:18 AM	#56 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	sigh The 370Z is as much a copy as anything else. From the mid 60's... Last edited by ImportConvert; 10-05-2011 at 07:24 AM.

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TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	"A" or "B"=groundbreaking. "Z"=copy.

10-05-2011, 03:06 AM	#55 (permalink)
jaedub Track Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 906 Drives: 2010 Black 370Z MT Rep Power: 305	if you didnt know, the FR-S a.k.a ft-86 has been out for about 3 years (concept). The toyota supra has been out for about 6 years (concept). So technically speaking, these 2 cars has been made wayyyyy before the 370z.

10-05-2011, 08:23 AM	#57 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Little late to the party, eh?

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LunaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 6,704 Drives: Project: a white one Rep Power: 512	A couple more classic GT cars that share the classic shape and styling cues that Toyota is "copying": Toyota 2000 GT (Copying themselves?) Ferrari 365 GTB4 Daytona TVR Griffith (Holy catfish!) Opel GT7 (More dolphin than shark, but we didn't know the word "Tiburon" yet) Triumph GT6 __________________ 2009 370Z Sport/Touring/Navigation \| see my journal for mods facebook: Be my friend... or not. Last edited by LunaZ; 10-05-2011 at 08:43 AM.

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