You're funny, kitten. Maybe you haven't seen that because you never bothered to ask. You act like I'm hiding something. :rolleyes:

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In this picture, there is a grey piece of plastic trim that spans the entire dash. It's located above the vents, it continues on either side of the gauge cluster. When I opened the door at the end of the test drive, the plastic trim running from the gauges to the door completely fell off the vehicle.

There, it's no secret, inspector.

That trim is probably held on by a simple press/expansion type clip (I don't know the name for it). It probably somehow, some way, escaped QC at the factory (it happens with every brand). Wasn't pressed in all the way, and a few hot/cold cycles of the sun baking the car, etc. and it fell off when you jarred the vehicle with the door opening. Press it in, it would have probably clipped right in place and never been a problem. The A-pillar in my Z06 is identical, except it didn't miss QC.

Well, as I said, maybe the one I drove was a lemon (missed QC), whatever.

I just don't think of that reflecting a high quality interior.

Then again, my friend test drove a new Z06 recently and said the headliner was already coming off in the back.

Could be a problem with GM, or it could have just been a problem with those two cars.

370Z - Sportscar

Camaro - Muscle/GT coup - heavy lacking refinement still
Cuda - same as a Camaro with much less capabilty. Its a sharp looking 2 door coupe passenger car
Mustang - Better but lacking refinement. No true sports independent suspension

These cars couldnt be anymore different. After owning 3 different Lotus Turbo Esprits, Vette's and BMW's, Alfa's etc there is only 1 'sportscar' choice in the group. All are nice. Only 1 has a decent pedigree as a sportscar in a strict sense.

Get the Z.

I went through the same thing in 05, I really liked a accord coupe but had a manual transmission, I had no clue on how to drive a manual. My dad ended up test driving the car, I really liked the car back then and I decided to go for it. Overal it took me a good month to feel comfortable driving it everywhere by myself, at first I was really nervous about inclines and the car rolling and me not getting the car in gear quick enough, but you live and learn.

I think if you have someone to help or guide you initially, you should be fine, all manaul drivers had to learn somehow... good luck!:tiphat:

If I was in your position it would come down to the Gen Coupe (3.8) or the 370. I really like the 370's interior. It's pretty solid and not overdone. The 370 is also very hard to take your eyes off of. The 3.8 Gen Coupe fully loaded is hard to beat, and also looks awesome in my opinion. I can definitely tell you that the 370 is better and more fun than the 350. My Dad had the 7AT 370 and it was awesome to drive. The paddle shifting is a lot of fun.

Camaro SS = faster in straight line but mushy handling

370Z = faster in a turn and tighter handling

The modded killerbee = about as fast in a straight line as the SS and BEAST handling.


The answer is clear really. :D

The camaro and mustang are both way better than there older brothers.
but to me they are still bigger heavier cars and not that nimble. yes they have v8's which i love and may be faster than the 370 but not enough to make a difference to the average joe. i just can't see getting a car which in my area you see just as many on the used lot as the new lot. that in it's self
should say alot about these cars. imho if the back seat is not a deal breaker
it's a no brainer its the 370. i would like to talk to camaro and mustang owners and see how their cars have stood up. I'm at 35,000 and not one rattle. and last but not least the 370 flat turns heads everywhere you go.

i'm a Z guy for life...............well almost everyone's got the one car they would give up the 370 for and mine would be any c6 vette.......

so to ramble got carried away

It's unfortunate that this even needs to be discussed but here goes. If gas goes to say, $6 a gallon, does the Z's 20% better fuel mileage impact your decision?

this really isn't a huge deal. My 370z gets maybe 2mpg better than my Camaro both in town and on the hwy. The only time I see worse mileage in the Camaro is when I'm putting the pedal to the floor. When you are agressive you can acutall watch the needle move. Still, with normal driving the Z isn't much better than the Camaro. Also if you want something thats both faster and better with mileage then get a Vette. Our old C6 Vette would get far better mpg's (30+ on hwy) and obviously faster than the Z or Camaro.

Also, it's always been my point of view that gas mileage shouldn't even come up when talking about buying a performance car. If you want peformance you have to pay to play. Simple as that. Then again I'm a little old school in my thoughts about cars; like not talking on a phone or eating when driving.

I had three lessons on how to drive a manual from a buddy in his Jetta. Then I got my Z. After about week I was able to comfortably work it. But it was a rough week. But now it is a blast to drive. Buying a manual transmission sports car has been one of the best decisions of my life!

The 370Z is pure sex! It is hot, loud, and rough!