2011 Z Con Plagues/Certificate for Winners

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Z1804

Truthfully at this stage of the game it's not a big deal whether or not I receive anything. However, I believe in customer service. I did not contact anyone directly because the last time I tried to clear up the wrong name next to my car at Z Con, I was given attitude. Also, I'm not the only one who received this treatment. Truthfully, it did not seem like the 370Z guys were welcomed at ZCon. Felt very much like a DATSUN show to me. Not a gathering of Z car enthusiasts.

I appreciate the OP reaching out and asking me for a picture so I can receive my certificate. However, this is no different from what happened last year. A friend of mine did not receive his trophy from Z Con until almost a year later. Again, this was about customer service and had very little to do with a plaque.

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PapoZalsa

I think someone needs to get a few pointers on how to run things from a few veterans from ZdayZ like Brian.

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Zcon2011

It may not be a big deal to you at this stage, but it is to me.

While I can appreciate your point of view, if you believe in customer service as you say, why did you not seek me out and give me the opportunity to address and correct the number issue-and far more importantly the attitude issue? I was the tall hog at the trough, there was no one more powerful than me at that convention-my name and only my name was on every dotted line there was. I could have taken care of that issue immediately and made sure it was not going to be a lasting flavor for you-as it is now-there is not much that I wouldn't have done to take care of one of our guests, from sending one of my staff to my home get parts, tools, and jack stands for a gentleman from Ohio who had had engine issues on the track, to going against the direct orders of the Fire Marshal and allowing a young lady to pull her 280Z to leave the car show when she had an emergency and he had closed and locked the doors.

Not giving me the opportunity to take care of your issue mean you made the decision that I would fail at your task for me. Are you related to my wife, she thinks I should be able to read her mind and act accordingly too!

As far is it being a year before the awards-correct me if I have the wrong information, your car was entry #343, and you did pick up coin #277 at the convention. I still owe you a certificate showing what the coin was for-and it will go in the mail next week.

As to 370Zs not being welcome.

I had just as many images of a 370Z in the convention as I did the 240Z-by design, I am surprised the other model owners didn't pick up on the fact that their models were only named in our advertising.
Every banner had a 240Z and a 370Z, the first car in the main entrance to the Convention Center was a 370Z, I had the same number of 240Z posters printed and distributed as I did 370Z posters-in fact the 370Z poster was used more often.
I expected there to be more 370Z and 350Zs than any other models-hence the expanse of the Convention Center that was open to them.

I have to ask, what exactly made you feel that 370Z guys weren't welcome?

Zcon2011

Ask Brian about me-I think you'll find out he knows a lot more about me than you do. Among other things, he'll tell you that I did ask for his pointers! Typical of him, he shared them freely-just as he does his efforts in Z days. He had planned on being at the convention but was called out of country for work-ask him...

But on that note, Any of you that are not getting in there to change things by volunteering are showing how passionate you really are about the Z community-in your actions....or more to the point your lack there of!
Typing a series of comments may make you feel better, and might get some of your like minded buds to type and chat, but getting off your *** and volunteering at a Z function will actually make the community better.

PapoZalsa

Well I did volunteered a ZdayZ and have the T-Shirt to proof it.

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daisuke149

Actually i disagree. Some of us are capable of volunteering while others aren't. But when someone volunteers and then says i couldnt do this or that cus of family or this or that should have thought that out before volunteering. If you put it on your shoulders, make sure you can carry it. I volunteer to do things when i KNOW i can do it. And i make arrangements around it. Being a volunteer or not is in no way a representation of how much you care about the Z cars. Everyone contributes in different and many ways.

The people who drive over 1000 miles to some shows care alot.
Those who show up when their car isnt working, care alot.
People who build up their car/clean it and get it ready for some of these shows care alot.
etc etc.

It may not be how you would show your appreciation but damned if you think that your way is the only way or the best way.

Everyones in it together. Everyone can make the z community better just be being better people overall and showing more respect and care, working together etc. Being a volunteer alone doesnt change anything. You could volunteer and do a shitty *** job. Doesnt make anything better. If you volunteer, know what you are good at, and what you aren't. Delegate what you aren't good at or can't accomplish.

Another reason why volunteering wont change the community is that even if someone puts on the best, perfectly planned show/event, if the people attending come in with shitty or selfish attitudes... you didn't change anything.

Zcon2011

I am talking about benefiting the Z community, not specifically Z cars. The only volunteering that would make any difference in that case is volunteering to help you with yours.
Some of us never let the fear of reaching farther than we have before control every aspect of our lives-we never lost that thirst for taking on a challenge-I am sorry that you have. I volunteer when I am needed and have something to contribute, not when it is necessarily convenient for me- or for a job with in my comfort zone. When I get a tap on my shoulder I lend a hand, and when I see a way to help, I don't wait to be asked, I jump in and ask for directions as my foot falls.
Assuming you ment to talk about benefit to the community and not to the cars, and since I don't know your situation, and am certainly unqualified to get into it, lets look at mine!
I have driven a Volvo-yes, I did say a Volvo-to three ZCons(a 1,600 mile trip among them) because none of my Zs(I have several) were up to it. Showing up and participating was for me, not for any residual benefit it might or could have given the Z community. Volunteering was to become a part of the community, and not simply to remain an attendee.
I have a Z32 convertible, that I bought as a worn basket case with a dead engine, and over the last four years, I have put tons of time and energy and a decent amount of money into it. It was essentially an abandoned vehicle when I bought, and I have brought it back from the brink. I entered it in the show at Nashville(a 1,000 mile round trip) and entered it in the show this year too(not nearly as long of a trip!). I have pictures of the transformation, but I don't know that Z32 progress is welcome on a Z34 forum...
Using your logic, How did my work on that car, and our attendance at Zcon help the community?
I'll give you It kept a somewhat rare Z on the road.
I'll even give you that its path from a sows ear to silk purse is an inspiration to some.
But, how did what I did to the Z or the trips that I took in it actually help the community?

Now lets apply my logic to exactly the same situation.
I have volunteered at every Z event I have attended even when driving a Volvo on a long trip to do it-because I wanted to be a part of the Z community not simply an attendee at a Z function.
I bought the Z32 Convertible for $1000 and paid the back taxes because I saw more than the worn, lifeless chassis it was, I spent time on it to bring myself enjoyment and to see immediate progress and results from my work, and to ultimately enjoy a somewhat rare car-I did recognize that my progress could represent a challenge and some motivation to some to get more done on their Zs...
I entered the car in the show and drove to Nashville -expecting to spend several hours after the drive, and several more over the days prior to the show to clean her up, finish installing the interior, and correct her issues-I had already volunteered to help with the car show. When we(my family and I) entered the hotel and I saw the registration line around the lobby, I showed my family the issue, got them situated, and I bee-lined it back down stairs to help out-from sometime after lunch to 3am, I was actively working specifically to help the Z community-no grey area here, this isn't like giving a donation in the fast food line to get your name on cutout taped to the wall and a tax deduction-that effort was 100% for the Z community. The next morning, I jumped in again in at the first Nissan Plant Tour, and after getting back from that, I jumped back into the store/registration room...working again until the wee hours of the morning, and again later by working the entire car show(I was in the lobby for that freak thunderstorm right before the group left to get ready for the day at 4:30am, and I worked until 5pm, grabbed a shower and headed back down to help get ready for the awards banquet. I put in some time in the three days because I saw leading members of the Z community doing everything they could and struggling because of not having enough help.
Using that time to get my car ready for the show probably would have gotten me an award, ( I brought everything tools, new parts, etc...to sew up all of the details that ultimately cost me points(plus a few more ), and may have done something for the community, but giving my time to help everyone there was undeniably helpful to the community.
I entered my car again this year with out taking the time to prep it for show-too many details to sew up for the community to worry about my car.
With your logic, taking that time to work on my car would have been more beneficial to the Z community than the volunteering I actually did? Explain that to me, I can't see it.
As to my way being the only way-no it isn't-never said it was, there is a part for everyone who wants one, and if you really want to be a part of something you will be. There is absolutely value in people getting better and working together, and bettering their cars, but I can't see you making any reasonable argument that spending focused time, energy, and money specifically and entirely on the Z community will be less effective than the residual benefits of anything not so specifically targeted at benefiting the Z community.
The best way for everyone, maybe not, the most effective way for benefiting the Z community-clearly and absolutely. How can you expect to be a beneficial part of the Z community with out actively contributing directly to it?
If you do a shitty job because you really don't want to be volunteering, that will be painfully evident-posers need not apply! If you do a shitty job because you are committed but clearly outside of your element, that is something else entirely-but delegating only works when there are committed and talented people to delegate to-those talented and committed people are called, um, volunteers-but, when the room is empty and there is still a job to be done, if it is to be, it's up to me, even if what ever the job is well outside of my talents-the buck stops with me.
Are you saying that if there is a chance someone will come with a bad attitude we should just cancel everything and give up? Just because they come in with a poor attitude does not mean they will leave with one. You can choose not to drive the Z because there might a pothole in the road if you want, but I am taking the journey in my Z and I am going to enjoy the ride.
A few direct questions-I don't need the answers, I just ask you to think about them.
1) How does anything I have done to my Z help you specifically as a member of the Z community?
2) How does My attendance of a Z function(volunteering completely ignored) help you specifically as a member of the Z community?
3) If you attended Zcon in Savannah, how much of what I did as a volunteer gave you an opportunity you would not have had with out my efforts?

Zcon2011

I was there too, and got the Tshirt, met and recruited a couple to help with car show parking-one of many great pieces of advice from Bryan!

Already planning for next year!

daisuke149

you completely missed my logic.

You said, those of us who volunteer are showing how much we care about the z community and those of us who dont volunteer, by our inaction of not getting off our ***, show that we don't.

My point was, volunteering isnt the only way. And even when volunteering, it doesn't necessarily help. Wasn't a point to say that your volunteering wasn't helpful, just that volunteering isn't the only way. Try not to read that deeply into something and also try not to tell your life story as it is not needed.

And in your first paragraph you said that i have lost my drive to help. Then in the next you say you dont know my situation so you won't speak of it. Funny stuff.

I could tell stories of things i do to help others in the z community and more so outside. But it doesn't matter. I do what i can do and all thats important is that I know it. You should feel the same way.

I feel this is going off topic. Again, wasn't personally attacking your volunteering or work, but rather your comments that those of us who supposedly dont get off our *** to volunteer at z event's arent helping the z community. Cus that statement is in fact BS. I know many people who do alot for the community and none of it involves volunteering at events.

Now again, volunteering is important and your right someones gotta do it. But like i said, volunteering and doing a **** job isn't good either. And it doesnt mean the person didn't want to volunteer. perhaps they didnt know what it would take or were asked to do things outside their expertise or knowledge. Which would be the fault of the other coordinators etc etc. There is no definitive path.

And now, damnit, im missing Fringe.

daisuke149

damn Fringe is over.

kevr6

All I have to say is hell no to Silver Nismos!
I gave ZCON a second chance. Two years in a row with questionable events means I'd be a fool to go again. I did enjoy some good people there and I will miss that. I thought about flying out to AZ to spectate, but probably not. After waiting a year to get my last year trophy I haven't missed this years remaining certificates yet. I have volunteered for much bigger shows and have never witnessed what I have experienced with ZCON. When I receive the remaining reward that will finalize my experience. It's been a learning experience.
Side note: I would like to experience Z Dayz next! I definitely will do ZNats again. (thanks to Z1)
See you guys at Petit Le Mans tomorrow and Caffeine & Octane following day!!

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dvr......

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LunaZ

All I know is that I'm wearing protection if I go to ZCON2012.

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