2011 Z Con Plagues/Certificate for Winners

Zcon2011 · 09-29-2011, 05:43 PM

Z1804,

The activities of being Chairman for a convention is well outside the norm for most people who have held the position. If you can find one that was in the profession of any part of the hats I wore as chairman, I would be well beyond shocked. I took on the task for a number of reasons, none of which included disappointing you or anyone else.

As with most things that a person has never done, the first time is almost never as well done as a second or third time. I apologize for disappointing you, and hope you will not allow my failure to affect your attendance at next years Zcon.

That said,
Talking to me about the 24th ZCON will get things done, griping on a forum that I do not frequent generally will not. I would never have seen this post if a friend had not alerted me to it. If your intent is to actually change the situation, communicate with those who are in the thick of actively handling it. Calling the newspaper to report a fire has very little chance of getting the fire department to respond to it in time to make a difference.
The certificates are almost ready,and will be mailed out next week.

William Stokes
Chairman: 24th Annual ZCCA International Convention

FYI
Call the Savannah International Trade and Convention Center and ask for the cost to rent the entire International Trade and Convention Center for two days, their Parking Lot for the seven days, be sure to include their security. You will find out that the cost of the Convention Center alone was FAR more than the $145 you paid for registering for the Car Show and the Convention-and that does not include the cost of the other facilities we made available to you, the services we provided, or the Insurance we had to obtain.

daisuke149 · 09-29-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zcon2011

Z1804,

The activities of being Chairman for a convention is well outside the norm for most people who have held the position. If you can find one that was in the profession of any part of the hats I wore as chairman, I would be well beyond shocked. I took on the task for a number of reasons, none of which included disappointing you or anyone else.

As with most things that a person has never done, the first time is almost never as well done as a second or third time. I apologize for disappointing you, and hope you will not allow my failure to affect your attendance at next years Zcon.

That said,
Talking to me about the 24th ZCON will get things done, griping on a forum that I do not frequent generally will not. I would never have seen this post if a friend had not alerted me to it. If your intent is to actually change the situation, communicate with those who are in the thick of actively handling it. Calling the newspaper to report a fire has very little chance of getting the fire department to respond to it in time to make a difference.
The certificates are almost ready,and will be mailed out next week.

William Stokes
Chairman: 24th Annual ZCCA International Convention

FYI
Call the Savannah International Trade and Convention Center and ask for the cost to rent the entire International Trade and Convention Center for two days, their Parking Lot for the seven days, be sure to include their security. You will find out that the cost of the Convention Center alone was FAR more than the $145 you paid for registering for the Car Show and the Convention-and that does not include the cost of the other facilities we made available to you, the services we provided, or the Insurance we had to obtain.

No offense man, but last years trophies took forever to get out as well. Almost a year later in fact for some. So if the fire department has been late to every fire in the entire district, why bother calling them the next time there is a fire? by your own analogy.

Jus sayin yo.

Zcon2011 · 09-29-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

No offense man, but last years trophies took forever to get out as well. Almost a year later in fact for some. So if the fire department has been late to every fire in the entire district, why bother calling them the next time there is a fire? by your own analogy.

Jus sayin yo.

As far as I know the OPIQ has NEVER contacted me about his certificate!
-just sayin yo.

But, you have a good point. I never intended for these to be so late, but for a number of reasons they are.
We handed out the coins on site-because they made it in time, but there is no way to have individually customized certificates for 140 people done in two hours even if the pre-printed certificates had been on time, and done right-they were not. I have been through three professional printing vendors since, who have told me they could do what I wanted and none has been successful. I have punted and accepted that they will not be as I intended, but they will be done as close as I can muster.
The certificates are having pictures of the awarded car printed on them. Call any awards company you want and ask them how long it will take a professional company set up for this work to produce those once they have the photos, now remember that I am one guy with a family(a working wife, a 4yr old and a 6yr old)-you saw them at the convention-a job, a mortgage and a life, most of which I put on hold to get this ready for you more than a year before the convention, and here we are a couple of months later and I still have much of my life on hold while I sew these things up. Just sayin yo

Now, back to reality, who is really getting any crap for not having their certificate? Have the police knocked on the door and threatened to cart you off because your certificate has not arrived? Are you waiting for a discount on your rent/house payment/the underware of a hot chick to melt off because you have a certificate? I guarantee that no one with any authority will come try to take your Z/fine you/beat you senseless because you don't have it yet-if they do show them the coin-they are numbered and listed to verify the award.

That said

Zdayz is an outstanding event, that is why I attend, volunteer, and support it and Brian and the entire Zdayz team whole-heartedly! But, ZdayZ is not a week long event in a different location every year, with a new team putting it on. Ask Brian about the growth and changes ZdayZ has gone through since the first one-I know he has stories-I have heard them. Comparing any Zcon to a current Zdayz is not a red Z34 to silver Z34 comparison, they are too different.

daisuke149 · 09-29-2011, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zcon2011

As far as I know the OPIQ has NEVER contacted me about his certificate!
-just sayin yo.

But, you have a good point. I never intended for these to be so late, but for a number of reasons they are.
We handed out the coins on site-because they made it in time, but there is no way to have individually customized certificates for 140 people done in two hours even if the pre-printed certificates had been on time, and done right-they were not. I have been through three professional printing vendors since, who have told me they could do what I wanted and none has been successful. I have punted and accepted that they will not be as I intended, but they will be done as close as I can muster.
The certificates are having pictures of the awarded car printed on them. Call any awards company you want and ask them how long it will take a professional company set up for this work to produce those once they have the photos, now remember that I am one guy with a family(a working wife, a 4yr old and a 6yr old)-you saw them at the convention-a job, a mortgage and a life, most of which I put on hold to get this ready for you more than a year before the convention, and here we are a couple of months later and I still have much of my life on hold while I sew these things up. Just sayin yo

Now, back to reality, who is really getting any crap for not having their certificate? Have the police knocked on the door and threatened to cart you off because your certificate has not arrived? Are you waiting for a discount on your rent/house payment/the underware of a hot chick to melt off because you have a certificate? I guarantee that no one with any authority will come try to take your Z/fine you/beat you senseless because you don't have it yet-if they do show them the coin-they are numbered and listed to verify the award.

That said

Zdayz is an outstanding event, that is why I attend, volunteer, and support it and Brian and the entire Zdayz team whole-heartedly! But, ZdayZ is not a week long event in a different location every year, with a new team putting it on. Ask Brian about the growth and changes ZdayZ has gone through since the first one-I know he has stories-I have heard them. Comparing any Zcon to a current Zdayz is not a red Z34 to silver Z34 comparison, they are too different.

dont you dare compare a red z34 to a silver. Red is better. Although not as good as white and thats a fact... no matter what someone in a black cherry z34 says.

Zcon2011 · 09-29-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

dont you dare compare a red z34 to a silver. Red is better. Although not as good as white and thats a fact... no matter what someone in a black cherry z34 says.

But there is a silver Nismo that is just calling my name....

kevr6 · 09-30-2011, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zcon2011

But there is a silver Nismo that is just calling my name....

All I have to say is hell no to Silver Nismos!
I gave ZCON a second chance. Two years in a row with questionable events means I'd be a fool to go again. I did enjoy some good people there and I will miss that. I thought about flying out to AZ to spectate, but probably not. After waiting a year to get my last year trophy I haven't missed this years remaining certificates yet. I have volunteered for much bigger shows and have never witnessed what I have experienced with ZCON. When I receive the remaining reward that will finalize my experience. It's been a learning experience.
Side note: I would like to experience Z Dayz next! I definitely will do ZNats again. (thanks to Z1)
See you guys at Petit Le Mans tomorrow and Caffeine & Octane following day!!

shadoquad · 09-29-2011, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisuke149

dont you dare compare a red z34 to a silver. Red is better. Although not as good as white and thats a fact... no matter what someone in a black cherry z34 says.

white Z's are for schoolgirls and men who role play as schoolgirls to meet guys.

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Zcon2011 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Savannah, Ga. Posts: 22 Drives: Spl311, S30,S130 Z32 Rep Power: 15	Z1804, The activities of being Chairman for a convention is well outside the norm for most people who have held the position. If you can find one that was in the profession of any part of the hats I wore as chairman, I would be well beyond shocked. I took on the task for a number of reasons, none of which included disappointing you or anyone else. As with most things that a person has never done, the first time is almost never as well done as a second or third time. I apologize for disappointing you, and hope you will not allow my failure to affect your attendance at next years Zcon. That said, Talking to me about the 24th ZCON will get things done, griping on a forum that I do not frequent generally will not. I would never have seen this post if a friend had not alerted me to it. If your intent is to actually change the situation, communicate with those who are in the thick of actively handling it. Calling the newspaper to report a fire has very little chance of getting the fire department to respond to it in time to make a difference. The certificates are almost ready,and will be mailed out next week. William Stokes Chairman: 24th Annual ZCCA International Convention FYI Call the Savannah International Trade and Convention Center and ask for the cost to rent the entire International Trade and Convention Center for two days, their Parking Lot for the seven days, be sure to include their security. You will find out that the cost of the Convention Center alone was *FAR* more than the $145 you paid for registering for the Car Show and the Convention-and that does not include the cost of the other facilities we made available to you, the services we provided, or the Insurance we had to obtain.