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ImportConvert 09-27-2011 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunNgun (Post 1329766)
I just purchased a brand new 2011 370z from the dealer. However before the car was shipped, the sales guy told me how it had the 5 spoke rims that look kinda like the RAYS rims with the forks at the end and not just the standard 5 straight spokes that 350's have. He acted as if this "in between" style looked kinda like this;

http://www.cybervally.com/wp-content...11/01/370z.jpg

Are these stock rims? Because mine do not look like that.

He also said the car was delivered on a truck and had 12 miles on it. But when I fired it up it had 250 miles on it. My sales receipt also says 19 miles. What the hell is going on here? Did they mix up my Z with somebody elses or something?


********.Regardless of the rims, this is ********. Would not have ever even cranked that car. The factory DOES put miles on the car to test them for rattles, etc. and GM even can do a 10-30 mile or so test-drive in the cars. I don't know about Nissan.

What I DO! know is they do NOT do 250 miles of testing.

RunNgun 09-27-2011 09:49 AM

Some may have missed this, but I actually google mapped directions from my dealership to the dealership of origin, and it came up as 225 miles. This means they actually just drove my car down, and put an extra 25 miles on it between loading it on the truck, driving it around back to get detailed, and taking it to the gas station for a free tank of gas. The only question is why did the salesman lie about it being truck delivered? I'm not too concerned with it. He either wanted to impress me for some reason, or simply made a mistake. I think it's safe to say my car was not a demo unit or any kids redlining it down the freeway for thrills.

Anyway it's a nice little project car for me now. Many planned upgrades, the first of which being an android tablet install where the dashboard storage compartment is. Probably wont be finished until christmas but I'll make sure to post it here since nobody seems to have done this to a Z yet.

UNKNOWN_370 09-27-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1331120)
********.Regardless of the rims, this is ********. Would not have ever even cranked that car. The factory DOES put miles on the car to test them for rattles, etc. and GM even can do a 10-30 mile or so test-drive in the cars. I don't know about Nissan.

What I DO! know is they do NOT do 250 miles of testing.

Between 5 and 11 miles is common in nissan. Import convert, you still haven't bought a Z? Lol. Did you ever convert?

bluelion 09-27-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunNgun (Post 1331396)
Anyway it's a nice little project car for me now. Many planned upgrades, the first of which being an android tablet install where the dashboard storage compartment is. Probably wont be finished until christmas but I'll make sure to post it here since nobody seems to have done this to a Z yet.

wrong. although it's not android.... :) ..http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/2...tion-pics.html

here is a tablet installed

http://www.the370z.com/exterior-inte...placement.html

11Thumper 09-27-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1331430)
Between 5 and 11 miles is common in nissan. Import convert, you still haven't bought a Z? Lol. Did you ever convert?

I think my car had 16 miles on it when I took delivery.

KaienZ34 09-27-2011 12:38 PM

Four miles on mine when she came in.

onzedge 09-27-2011 01:26 PM

I had 8 on mine.

UNKNOWN_370 09-27-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1331670)
I think my car had 16 miles on it when I took delivery.

Mine had 7 miles and I took delivery of a 2012 altima 2.5s for my wife as well. It had 6 miles.

kree 09-27-2011 04:30 PM

28 miles or so, but i paid 31k for touring with sport, so I had no right to complain :P

onzedge 09-27-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kree (Post 1332159)
28 miles or so, but i paid 31k for touring with sport, so I had no right to complain :P

That is a good deal.

UNKNOWN_370 09-27-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1332162)
That is a good deal.

CORRECTION: that's a miraculous deal. Awesome.:bowrofl:

kfscoll 09-27-2011 08:45 PM

My car had 350 miles on it when I bought it new. It was either exchanged from another dealer or something else. So what? it was in perfect shape when I bought it, it's not burning oil (yet), and I've put 4000+ non-gentle miles on it since I've owned it. As long as it's never been titled it can be sold as a new car regardless of miles. Besides, I paid $35k for a 6MT touring/sport/nav in exactly the color combination I wanted so I was happy.

Don't sweat the miles and enjoy your new car!

PapoZalsa 09-27-2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kfscoll (Post 1332549)
My car had 350 miles on it when I bought it new. It was either exchanged from another dealer or something else. So what? it was in perfect shape when I bought it, it's not burning oil (yet), and I've put 4000+ non-gentle miles on it since I've owned it. As long as it's never been titled it can be sold as a new car regardless of miles. Besides, I paid $35k for a 6MT touring/sport/nav in exactly the color combination I wanted so I was happy.

Don't sweat the miles and enjoy your new car!

All he needs are the miles at delivery to be corrected . Mine also had 250 because it was an exchange from another dealer.

RunNgun 09-28-2011 06:26 PM

Wooooaaahhhhhh, so I found a vehicle inspection sheet tucked away inside my car from the dealership that it was shipped from. The date of the inspection is 8-15-2011, however it has an odometer reading on it. IT SAYS 200. So as far back as august my car already had 200 miles on it. When I took ownership of it it had 225 as I had mentioned, which means it was indeed delivered on a truck. However having 200 pre-existing miles on it can only mean one thing, that it was a demo car correct?

birdmanx1 09-28-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunNgun (Post 1334608)
Wooooaaahhhhhh, so I found a vehicle inspection sheet tucked away inside my car from the dealership that it was shipped from. The date of the inspection is 8-15-2011, however it has an odometer reading on it. IT SAYS 200. So as far back as august my car already had 200 miles on it. When I took ownership of it it had 225 as I had mentioned, which means it was indeed delivered on a truck. However having 200 pre-existing miles on it can only mean one thing, that it was a demo car correct?

Too late to do anything about it since you already took delivery of the car. The dealership owned you on this and used the fact that you were not going to double-check their lies. Hopefully you got or ran a carfax report on the car before purchase.

Enjoy your slightly used new Z boss!

RunNgun 09-28-2011 06:52 PM

No I didnt bother to run a carfax on a brand new car, thought that was only for used cars. I just called the sales manager involved in my purchase about this, and he started by saying "every new car has on average between 100-400 miles on it before the customer takes it". He also said that it could have 200 miles on it from the first dealer because they traded it from yet another dealer for a purchase that never completed. Or because they just wanted to have a black Z on their lot so they had one brought in from another dealer.

He also said that if it was test driven by a customer, Nissan forbids dealerships to let customers go full throttle on their cars or put the cars in other unsafe conditions so I shouldnt have to worry about some moron gunning it to "see what she can do".

Finally he said I could bring the sales receipt in and they could adjust it to reflect accurate mileage lol. As far as I'm concerned these 2 documents are my only leverage against them should I need it. You mentioned it's basically too late to do anything, but is there anything that should be done? I guess if the car blows up in a year from bent valves due to improper break-in maybe I can try to sue or something?

Thoughts?

EazyD 09-28-2011 07:14 PM

:wtf2:

birdmanx1 09-28-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RunNgun
I just called the sales manager involved in my purchase about this, and he started by saying "every new car has on average between 100-400 miles on it before the customer takes it"

Never heard that bro, so I'm going to call it a lie, brand new 8, 10, 20mi maybe, 100+ not so brand new anymore, that's when they should have displayed you the correct mileage so you went in with appropriate price for negotiation.
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Originally Posted by RunNgun (Post 1334637)
He also said that if it was test driven by a customer, Nissan forbids dealerships to let customers go full throttle on their cars or put the cars in other unsafe conditions so I shouldnt have to worry about some moron gunning it to "see what she can do".

:icon18::roflpuke2: misleading, now it might be a Nissan policy but I don't see it enforced, I was the moron who went uber full throttle on my test drive Zs (5 of them to be precise), I won't disclose but I was way up there speed-wise during the test drive, the sales guy didn't say anything or stop me, he was too busy looking for something to grip hard on... now I told him he didn't have to be with me during the test drive. Besides how will the sales guy enforce that you don't drive the car hard, snatch the steering wheel and pedals from you? Sorry but that's not always true.
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Originally Posted by RunNgun (Post 1334637)
Finally he said I could bring the sales receipt in and they could adjust it to reflect accurate mileage lol. As far as I'm concerned these 2 documents are my only leverage against them should I need it. You mentioned it's basically too late to do anything, but is there anything that should be done? I guess if the car blows up in a year from bent valves due to improper break-in maybe I can try to sue or something?
Thoughts?

Well I would document the mileage, taking a pic with date and timestamp, make a copy of the receipt and keep it aside so if it just so happens that you have problems with the car early on, you would have covered your bases or see if you can get more post deal sweeteners since the dealer pretty much f***** you during the purchase. Now I'm not saying you'll necessarily need that but you can cover yourself that way. Don't beat yourself up that you could have should have at this point, just document some of things stated above and enjoy your car.

You'll have better experience of the online car purchase process the next time around. When I purchase mine it took over 24hours of negotiation and the dealer tried to trick me by hiding extra fees in the purchase order, I kicked it back 4 times and told him not to waste my time if the numbers were not what I wanted, I flew in and thoroughly inspected the car and what was stated on sales order before signing anything. I ended up buying the car less than what I had anticipated :tup:

Post pics of your cool ride when you get the chance boss!

RunNgun 09-28-2011 11:32 PM

I dont mind trying to negotiate in something extra on top, what are some "deal sweeteners" you think I could realistically whine for? They told me my spoiler was ordered and could possibly be here by the end of the week, so as soon as thats attached I'll do some pics. Nothing special really, just a black Z :)

wilsonp 09-28-2011 11:49 PM

Try to get some extra warranty - like someone said, you don't want to be near the end and be denied.

When I took a test drive, no one from the dealer was in the car, and they never mentioned taking it easy during the test.

CarsRfun 09-29-2011 06:19 AM

Dude, just let it go...you have an amazing car and you've not mentioned 1 single problem yet, if the car was dealer traded it is what it is, the selling dealer cant be held accountable for the miles put on before they owned it. If I was the dealer that sold it to you, Id tell you get lost, the car has 0 problems and the warranty will be good til 36,225, what more do you want??? You want free stuff over and above?? Be serious...dont be cheap/greedy, just go drive! I cant believe youve wasted so much time worrying and posting about this issue, especially when the car is driving great?!?!?

birdmanx1 09-29-2011 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RunNgun (Post 1335025)
I dont mind trying to negotiate in something extra on top, what are some "deal sweeteners" you think I could realistically whine for? They told me my spoiler was ordered and could possibly be here by the end of the week, so as soon as thats attached I'll do some pics. Nothing special really, just a black Z :)

Cool, like wilson noted see if you can negotiate some extra warranty. You bought it online so the free oil change/wash program is probably out of question.

birdmanx1 09-29-2011 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CarsRfun (Post 1335141)
Dude, just let it go...you have an amazing car and you've not mentioned 1 single problem yet, if the car was dealer traded it is what it is, the selling dealer cant be held accountable for the miles put on before they owned it. If I was the dealer that sold it to you, Id tell you get lost, the car has 0 problems and the warranty will be good til 36,225, what more do you want??? You want free stuff over and above?? Be serious...dont be cheap/greedy, just go drive! I cant believe youve wasted so much time worrying and posting about this issue, especially when the car is driving great?!?!?

I have to disagree with you, sorry if I spend over 40k on a car in this economy, it better d*mn well be what was advertised on the ad otherwise I would feel cheated. I would have gotten something extra for the discrepancy for sure. The OP didn't waste anyone time at least one is free to pass up the thread whenever, I believe all are allowed to post up their experience with the car on the forum without being slammed.

gurneyeagle 09-29-2011 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1335180)
I have to disagree with you, sorry if I spend over 40k on a car in this economy, it better d*mn well be what was advertised on the ad otherwise I would feel cheated. I would have gotten something extra for the discrepancy for sure. The OP didn't waste anyone time at least one is free to pass up the thread whenever, I believe all are allowed to post up their experience with the car on the forum without being slammed.

I agree with you birdman, BUT the OP did take delivery of the car; i.e. accepted the contract. Take this as a lesson, and move on. Don't turn this into the victimzation of some innocent citizen story.

And while I agree 100% with everyone else about the mileage issue - with the exception that OP should go back and get "compensation" - it honestly is not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. 250 miles is about 2% of the average motorist's annual mileage. Look at it this way, you're that much closer to completing your break-in.

In other words, you haven't lost any life of your car. It may have been a demo, but you accepted and drove it off the lot. Probabaly not the most scrupulous act by the dealer, but again, lesson learned.

And yes, a similar situation happened to me with a new 1985 Supra that was brought in from an out-of-town dealer. As I was driving home, I noticed it had 225 miles on it, AND an ash tray full of cigarette butts. That was skanky. LESSON Learned:

1. try and only buy cars on the dealer's lot;
2. any off lot car is to be TRUCKED from another dealer;
3. do a full walk around, test drive, and odometer check before sitting down to sign anything.
4. PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE - learn to live for another day, there will always be another car available at some point.

You've got a great car, so just let this pass and enjoy it.

birdmanx1 09-29-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gurneyeagle (Post 1335273)
I agree with you birdman, BUT the OP did take delivery of the car; i.e. accepted the contract. Take this as a lesson, and move on. Don't turn this into the victimzation of some innocent citizen story.

And while I agree 100% with everyone else about the mileage issue - with the exception that OP should go back and get "compensation" - it honestly is not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. 250 miles is about 2% of the average motorist's annual mileage. Look at it this way, you're that much closer to completing your break-in.

In other words, you haven't lost any life of your car. It may have been a demo, but you accepted and drove it off the lot. Probabaly not the most scrupulous act by the dealer, but again, lesson learned.

And yes, a similar situation happened to me with a new 1985 Supra that was brought in from an out-of-town dealer. As I was driving home, I noticed it had 225 miles on it, AND an ash tray full of cigarette butts. That was skanky. LESSON Learned:

1. try and only buy cars on the dealer's lot;
2. any off lot car is to be TRUCKED from another dealer;
3. do a full walk around, test drive, and odometer check before sitting down to sign anything.
4. PATIENCE, PATIENCE, PATIENCE - learn to live for another day, there will always be another car available at some point.

You've got a great car, so just let this pass and enjoy it.

Great points eagle. Repped! :tiphat:

RunNgun 09-29-2011 01:09 PM

Indeed, it has been permanently etched into memory that I will never forget to demand a near 0 mileage car, and that it be trucked in only, if not bought directly from the lot. I've already got it up to 500 miles now in less than a week, so 250 cant be too bad. I also doubt that many customers would try to hit 120mph on the freeway just as part of a demo, so hopefully she was tested gently. Or even better, than she was just sent from a previous dealer because they wanted to have one on the lot.

PapoZalsa 09-29-2011 01:18 PM

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...1267844749.jpg

CarsRfun 09-29-2011 08:40 PM

A tempest in a teapot...the car has no evidence of abuse...wow...this type of response is why people get the ***** of owning a business....the dealer cant help what the previous dealer did mileage wise..if he didnt like the miles he coulda walked. The cars runs well, enjoy it and quit being a "fuss budget" about it.

birdmanx1 09-29-2011 08:44 PM

http://i.pbase.com/o2/25/583725/1/10...adeadhorse.gif

ricky bobby 09-29-2011 08:53 PM

Post pics of your Z, Please :hello::pics:

shadoquad 09-29-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ricky bobby (Post 1336964)
Post pics of your Z, Please :hello::pics:

Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.

Don't you put that evil on me!

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rexee-video-...90189_6810.jpg

ricky bobby 09-29-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1336971)
don't you put that evil on me, ricky bobby.

Don't you put that evil on me!

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rexee-video-...90189_6810.jpg

lmao!

birdmanx1 09-29-2011 09:08 PM

Lol

KaienZ34 09-29-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1336971)
Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.

Don't you put that evil on me!

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rexee-video-...90189_6810.jpg

Let me help you get the knife out your leg, i know i'll cut around the meat.

m4a1mustang 09-29-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1336971)
Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.

Don't you put that evil on me!

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rexee-video-...90189_6810.jpg

:icon18:

RunNgun 09-30-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ricky bobby (Post 1336964)
Post pics of your Z, Please :hello::pics:

They're comin they're comin, just waiting for the damn spoiler to come in, since it adds so much to the appearance once installed. Also gonna get a nice polish job from a professional detail shop, since my car has those beautiful little swirl marks all over the paint from the idiots at the dealer using bath towels to wash my car.


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