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gurneyeagle 09-22-2011 01:00 PM

370Z v. 300ZX
 
2011 Nissan 370Z vs. 1990 Nissan 300ZX: Past Meets Present

kenchan 09-22-2011 01:30 PM

so beach made a review of his two cars? :D

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1325330)
so beach made a review of his two cars? :D

:roflpuke2:

gurneyeagle 09-22-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1325330)
so beach made a review of his two cars? :D

That was the first thing I thought of.

Pelican170 09-22-2011 01:47 PM

Strange, they talk about the syncrorev match saying they dont like how you cant permanently turn it off... uhhh im almost positive mine stays off when i turn my car off... I dont normally drive with it on...

theDreamer 09-22-2011 02:05 PM

Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.

shadoquad 09-22-2011 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1325383)
Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.

:iagree: and I love 300zx's

Red__Zed 09-22-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1325383)
Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.

:iagree: I got about a minute in and :facepalm:'d

ZeeingAround 09-22-2011 02:30 PM

I owned a 300Zx for quite a while. They are not even close other than they are two seaters with a Nissan badge.

11Thumper 09-22-2011 03:08 PM

Yeah, the author was a little biased towards his 300ZX. It was (and still is) without doubt a great car. My buddy had the turbo version (with a built motor and 500+ whp) and he loved it (until his wife found out about his 100mph+ speeding ticket and ride in the back of a patrol car lol). I let him drive my 370Z just to see what he would think. Naturally he wasn't in love with the 7AT but he didn't think it was a bad transmission. Overall he liked it much better than his 300ZX and said the choice would be easy to buy the 370Z.

You have to remember the 300ZX is 21 years old. Comparing it to a new Z isn't exactly fair and I think the 300ZX does a fine job holding its own.

Jeffblue 09-22-2011 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1325383)
Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.

Having the titanium key is nice. but like i really could care less, its a key wtf.

I love the 370z interior. However the 300zx interior, esp the 93+ suede interior is quite nice though, and worlds above most interiors of that time. I guess maybe the author was referencing that a lot of the nissan interiors are very similar, but i dont see that as a problem.

Hands down i'd choose a 370z over a '90 2+2 NA 300zx.... i mean, without even thinking for a second. Especially with that tweed interior :icon14:

Jeffblue 09-22-2011 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1325528)
Yeah, the author was a little biased towards his 300ZX. It was (and still is) without doubt a great car. My buddy had the turbo version (with a built motor and 500+ whp) and he loved it (until his wife found out about his 100mph+ speeding ticket and ride in the back of a patrol car lol). I let him drive my 370Z just to see what he would think. Naturally he wasn't in love with the 7AT but he didn't think it was a bad transmission. Overall he liked it much better than his 300ZX and said the choice would be easy to buy the 370Z.

You have to remember the 300ZX is 21 years old. Comparing it to a new Z isn't exactly fair and I think the 300ZX does a fine job holding its own.

i dont think its unfair. its comparing different generations of the Z car. the 370z SHOULD be better than an NA 300zx in all aspects. And a TT with breather mods should be quicker in a straight line, but the 370z would still probably out handle it (assuming they both had stock suspension)

BeachZTT 09-22-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1325330)
so beach made a review of his two cars? :D

:tup: Man, I wish I had time to read this article and play along. Just dropped in while checking my email. I am flying to SF tomorrow morning and am trying to get the dogs packed to go to the pet hotel before they close. I have our dog and our friend's (that usually dogsit for us and are already out of town).

I haven't hardly seen daylight this week let alone a Z. It has been raining all week anyway, not like it mattered.

Maybe I will save the article and catch up on the plane. Hope to be at Laguna Seca tomorrow afternoon if all goes well. Wife is at an Oracle training class and I am going to meet her for a mini-vacation. Catch you guys later!!!

onzedge 09-22-2011 04:26 PM

A 240/370 review would be more interesting, IMO.

onzedge has written

waaaasabi 09-22-2011 05:42 PM

Mmm, on the aspect of interior design: The 'feeling' that you get when you sit in the driver's seat of a 300zx and a 370z are completely different.

The seating position is much lower in a 300ZX, which really enhances the perspective of speed - sh*t just seems to fly by much faster. And all of the controls are at the driver's fingertips, so it really feels like a driver-orientated cockpit. When you look out, into the empty road ahead, beyond the flared front fender to your left and the sloped center console to your right, you really get the sensation that you're probably going to get home either really quickly, or the next day after spending a night in jail for a myriad of automotive mischief.

The 370Z conveys a much different feeling - simply, it's just better refined. Don't get me wrong, it still has this 'speedy' feel, but far less than the 300ZX; the latter reminds me a lot of my C4 Vette...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1325561)
Having the titanium key is nice. but like i really could care less, its a key wtf.

Hands down i'd choose a 370z over a '90 2+2 NA 300zx.... i mean, without even thinking for a second. Especially with that tweed interior :icon14:

I think I mentioned it to you at a meet before, but the titanium key can wear out the pins in the ignition lock... so really not an advantage, per se (though pretty cool; the design of the key is really cool, too).

And total agreed on a 2by2 NA - but a 2by2 with a TT swap? It'd be a tough call, man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1325568)
And a TT with breather mods should be quicker in a straight line, but the 370z would still probably out handle it (assuming they both had stock suspension)

Truth.

Alchemy 09-22-2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelican170 (Post 1325367)
Strange, they talk about the syncrorev match saying they dont like how you cant permanently turn it off... uhhh im almost positive mine stays off when i turn my car off... I dont normally drive with it on...

Mine stays off as well.

Jeffblue 09-22-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waaaasabi (Post 1325725)
I think I mentioned it to you at a meet before, but the titanium key can wear out the teeth in the ignition lock... so really not an advantage, per se (though pretty cool; the design of the key is really cool, too).

I pretty much just leave my Ti key on my keychain for my DD, and have a normal key with the remote for my 300zx for if i actually take the car out. I just keep the Ti key as a keychain and like to have it handy if i need to get something out of the car on the way out of the house.

sonic370 09-22-2011 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1325528)
Yeah, the author was a little biased towards his 300ZX. It was (and still is) without doubt a great car. My buddy had the turbo version (with a built motor and 500+ whp) and he loved it (until his wife found out about his 100mph+ speeding ticket and ride in the back of a patrol car lol). I let him drive my 370Z just to see what he would think. Naturally he wasn't in love with the 7AT but he didn't think it was a bad transmission. Overall he liked it much better than his 300ZX and said the choice would be easy to buy the 370Z.

You have to remember the 300ZX is 21 years old. Comparing it to a new Z isn't exactly fair and I think the 300ZX does a fine job holding its own.

not to :stirthepot: but not in love with the 7at whats not to love about it.
even die hard manual guys will say for a auto its one of the best made
for the price in any car.

gurneyeagle 09-22-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeachZTT (Post 1325606)
:tup: Man, I wish I had time to read this article and play along. Just dropped in while checking my email. I am flying to SF tomorrow morning and am trying to get the dogs packed to go to the pet hotel before they close. I have our dog and our friend's (that usually dogsit for us and are already out of town).

I haven't hardly seen daylight this week let alone a Z. It has been raining all week anyway, not like it mattered.

Maybe I will save the article and catch up on the plane. Hope to be at Laguna Seca tomorrow afternoon if all goes well. Wife is at an Oracle training class and I am going to meet her for a mini-vacation. Catch you guys later!!!

Have a great trip Beach! :tup:

Methodical4u 09-22-2011 08:36 PM

I wanted a 300zx since I started driving, but insurance was just to much for me at the time, and then later on I really liked the 350's.. but I wasn't that much older when they came out so I couldn't afford one. Later on I went the AWD route with the Evo's that I had. I got tired of all of the modding on my second one and wanted something NA and since the Z doesn't have that many mods for an NA set-up it was perfect. So for me the choice was easy to go with a new one.

So now I have a Z with ART pipes, F.I. exhaust, I will get some used G3's and then when Motordynes intakes come out, I will likely go with them, some pulley's ... I don't think i'll go with the 4.08 gears to keep mileage semi decent now.... anyway, not to many mods and that will do it for me... a 12.5-12.7 capable car is good enough for me.

m4a1mustang 09-22-2011 08:54 PM

I love the 300ZX. One of my favorite cars from when I was a kid... it just looked so cool and futuristic.

And that damn commercial! The twin... turbos... kick.... in!

Zaggeron 09-22-2011 09:22 PM

What is it with reviewers and the so-called headrests. Those things behind your head are "headrests" in name only. They are not designed as pillows for you to lean back on as you drive. Your head is not supposed to be in contact with it when you drive. It is designed to prevent neck injury during an accident ... jeez ..

shadoquad 09-22-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1325629)
A 240/370 review would be more interesting, IMO.

onzedge has written

Then write it yourself.

shadoquad has trolled.

Strangler 09-22-2011 09:45 PM

Only thing I didnt like about the 300zx is that it was too low to the ground. Have to be careful getting out of driveways, parking and everything.

Jeffblue 09-22-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1325985)
I love the 300ZX. One of my favorite cars from when I was a kid... it just looked so cool and futuristic.

And that damn commercial! The twin... turbos... kick.... in!

<3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaggeron (Post 1326038)
What is it with reviewers and the so-called headrests. Those things behind your head are "headrests" in name only. They are not designed as pillows for you to lean back on as you drive. Your head is not supposed to be in contact with it when you drive. It is designed to prevent neck injury during an accident ... jeez ..

:iagree: Its like 'hmm that foot rest on the left makes a burning smell when i rest my foot on it while driving' 'oh you mean the clutch?'

Jeffblue 09-22-2011 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strangler (Post 1326085)
Only thing I didnt like about the 300zx is that it was too low to the ground. Have to be careful getting out of driveways, parking and everything.

My 370z is lowered about 1 or 1.5 inches and my 300zx is lowered 1.5 inches up front. i scrape WAY more in the 370z. i almost never scrape in the 300zx. Granted, i'm really only scraping the sports package chin spoiler, but still.

shadoquad 09-22-2011 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1326090)
:iagree: Its like 'hmm that foot rest on the left makes a burning smell when i rest my foot on it while driving' 'oh you mean the clutch?'

If only the turn signals were better on this performance motoring object.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1326093)
My 370z is lowered about 1 or 1.5 inches and my 300zx is lowered 1.5 inches up front. i scrape WAY more in the 370z. i almost never scrape in the 300zx. Granted, i'm really only scraping the sports package chin spoiler, but still.

Let me fix this post.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1326093)
I suck at driving

:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

Jeffblue 09-22-2011 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1326098)
If only the turn signals were better on this performance motoring object.

I dont understand this one... :confused:
Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1326098)
I am a flaming homosexual. I get owned in MW2 by anyone wielding two olympia's

Fixed

shadoquad 09-22-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1326111)
I dont understand this one... :confused:

I'm just saying, if we're gonna bitch about headrests, we ought to also take a look at turn signals.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1326111)
Fixed

:icon18::icon18::icon18::superghey:

Dustin@Z1 09-22-2011 10:04 PM

Working where I do....I get to drive both daily. Between me and my fiance we own 3.5ish (lol). So I have seen the extremes in both model cars.

I love the the 300zx since it is what I own and came to love the most. I wouldn't necessarily SELL my 300zx's for a 370Z (yet). But given the chance, I would definitly have a 370Z in my garage.

The 370Z is by far a MUCH better handling Z over the Z32. Which it should since its 20+ yrs newer. I think the 370Z is an excellent successor to the Twin Turbo Z32. But both have their highlights that make (and will make) them a classic amongst enthusiasts. The 370Z is also much easier and pleasurable to work on over the Z32...ESPECIALLY the twin turbo.

Otherwise....a 370Z is really better car.

onzedge 09-22-2011 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1326042)
Then write it yourself.

shadoquad has trolled.

Shado -- that is a darned fine idea. Thanks -- you get credit in the by-line, OK? BTW: is what they write about you true?

shadoquad 09-22-2011 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 1326126)
Shado -- that is a darned fine idea. Thanks -- you get credit in the by-line, OK? BTW: is what they write about you true?

The goat was 18 and consented.

onzedge 09-22-2011 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1326136)
The goat was 18 and consented.

:icon18: Been there.

Zaggeron 09-22-2011 10:14 PM

I think most of us like the 300ZX, I think most of the criticisms are of the writer of the article. Here's my take ...

What do you think of someone who uses the words

"special" and "unique" in the same sentence as "tweed, vinyl, and plastic" when describing a car's interior ... :ugh2:

Alchemy 09-22-2011 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1325985)
I love the 300ZX. One of my favorite cars from when I was a kid... it just looked so cool and futuristic.

And that damn commercial! The twin... turbos... kick.... in!

The look was truely ahead of its time. It still looks pretty good but def showing its age.

Alchemy 09-22-2011 11:10 PM

Ugh, just read that dribble for the second time. The author is a gargantuan moron to put it lightly.

WarmAndSCSI 09-22-2011 11:32 PM

The so-called author didn't even check his facts. The 300ZX is 2 inches WIDER than the 370Z? First off, you'd have to literally be blind to think that is accurate, and a simple search for the specs of both cars reveals that the 370Z is 2 inches wider than the Z32 300ZX...

As soon as I read the interior comparison part of the article, I just :facepalm: and closed the tab.

Mt Tam I am 09-23-2011 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1325985)
I love the 300ZX.
And that damn commercial! The twin... turbos... kick.... in!

I liked the GI Joe/Barbie commercial myself.

I miss my 300 still. The ride quality and lush interior. Hitting my head in certain turns on the roof is very much not missed. Also it's low ride was hard on my aging knees. The 370 delivers.

Alchemy 09-23-2011 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am (Post 1326267)
I liked the GI Joe/Barbie commercial myself.

I miss my 300 still. The ride quality and lush interior. Hitting my head in certain turns on the roof is very much not missed. Also it's low ride was hard on my aging knees. The 370 delivers.

^ that was a great commercial:tup:

Jeffblue 09-23-2011 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 1326235)
The so-called author didn't even check his facts. The 300ZX is 2 inches WIDER than the 370Z? First off, you'd have to literally be blind to think that is accurate, and a simple search for the specs of both cars reveals that the 370Z is 2 inches wider than the Z32 300ZX...

As soon as I read the interior comparison part of the article, I just :facepalm: and closed the tab.

yep, 370z is wider, taller, and longer than a 2 seater z32.


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