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Old 09-22-2011, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2011 Nissan 370Z vs. 1990 Nissan 300ZX: Past Meets Present
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so beach made a review of his two cars?
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so beach made a review of his two cars?
That was the first thing I thought of.
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Strange, they talk about the syncrorev match saying they dont like how you cant permanently turn it off... uhhh im almost positive mine stays off when i turn my car off... I dont normally drive with it on...
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Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.
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Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.
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Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.
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I owned a 300Zx for quite a while. They are not even close other than they are two seaters with a Nissan badge.
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Yeah, the author was a little biased towards his 300ZX. It was (and still is) without doubt a great car. My buddy had the turbo version (with a built motor and 500+ whp) and he loved it (until his wife found out about his 100mph+ speeding ticket and ride in the back of a patrol car lol). I let him drive my 370Z just to see what he would think. Naturally he wasn't in love with the 7AT but he didn't think it was a bad transmission. Overall he liked it much better than his 300ZX and said the choice would be easy to buy the 370Z.

You have to remember the 300ZX is 21 years old. Comparing it to a new Z isn't exactly fair and I think the 300ZX does a fine job holding its own.
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Rant time (and I love the 300zx and know many guys on this forum own one or both)
This review is just an 'older' generation Z driver stroking his ego on how his older Z is a more 'true' Z car. Sorry but lets break it down:

-Not the fastest Nissan car: The Z never was, it does not matter that the Skyline GT-R was not sold in the US until the R35 but the Z was always a medium level competitor against Porsche. Yes, the 300zx TT compete against the older corvettes but once the C5 corvette arrived it was a whole new ball game from GM. Where the Z was already very well prepped for its group they kept it where it belonged.

-Titanium key...really? No offense, but I have a 2009 Z and have the Nissan emblem on mine and when I throw it down people just see Nissan, but I have borrowed a Z emblem fob before and people notice that right away. If I had some generic titanium cut key it would not demand a greater presence or higher meaning. In today's market an electronic key is standard and commands a higher level of quality and Nissan did a smart idea in 2010 (and later) by added the Z logo breaking it away from the standard Nissan key.

-Sychro rev match - reviewer is an idiot, enough said

-Interior: How is the Z interior not unique, sorry but it commands the pure sports car feel. From the gauges (minus the fuel/water temp) to the console of straight forward design with minor luxury features, down to the triple gauges. The 300zx was the only car never to have the triple gauge setup in the car, which many claimed to be a huge downside to the car because it lost a true Z feature which all generations carried.

There are more idiotic points in this article but not worth my time.
Having the titanium key is nice. but like i really could care less, its a key wtf.

I love the 370z interior. However the 300zx interior, esp the 93+ suede interior is quite nice though, and worlds above most interiors of that time. I guess maybe the author was referencing that a lot of the nissan interiors are very similar, but i dont see that as a problem.

Hands down i'd choose a 370z over a '90 2+2 NA 300zx.... i mean, without even thinking for a second. Especially with that tweed interior
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Yeah, the author was a little biased towards his 300ZX. It was (and still is) without doubt a great car. My buddy had the turbo version (with a built motor and 500+ whp) and he loved it (until his wife found out about his 100mph+ speeding ticket and ride in the back of a patrol car lol). I let him drive my 370Z just to see what he would think. Naturally he wasn't in love with the 7AT but he didn't think it was a bad transmission. Overall he liked it much better than his 300ZX and said the choice would be easy to buy the 370Z.

You have to remember the 300ZX is 21 years old. Comparing it to a new Z isn't exactly fair and I think the 300ZX does a fine job holding its own.
i dont think its unfair. its comparing different generations of the Z car. the 370z SHOULD be better than an NA 300zx in all aspects. And a TT with breather mods should be quicker in a straight line, but the 370z would still probably out handle it (assuming they both had stock suspension)
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so beach made a review of his two cars?
Man, I wish I had time to read this article and play along. Just dropped in while checking my email. I am flying to SF tomorrow morning and am trying to get the dogs packed to go to the pet hotel before they close. I have our dog and our friend's (that usually dogsit for us and are already out of town).

I haven't hardly seen daylight this week let alone a Z. It has been raining all week anyway, not like it mattered.

Maybe I will save the article and catch up on the plane. Hope to be at Laguna Seca tomorrow afternoon if all goes well. Wife is at an Oracle training class and I am going to meet her for a mini-vacation. Catch you guys later!!!
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A 240/370 review would be more interesting, IMO.

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Mmm, on the aspect of interior design: The 'feeling' that you get when you sit in the driver's seat of a 300zx and a 370z are completely different.

The seating position is much lower in a 300ZX, which really enhances the perspective of speed - sh*t just seems to fly by much faster. And all of the controls are at the driver's fingertips, so it really feels like a driver-orientated cockpit. When you look out, into the empty road ahead, beyond the flared front fender to your left and the sloped center console to your right, you really get the sensation that you're probably going to get home either really quickly, or the next day after spending a night in jail for a myriad of automotive mischief.

The 370Z conveys a much different feeling - simply, it's just better refined. Don't get me wrong, it still has this 'speedy' feel, but far less than the 300ZX; the latter reminds me a lot of my C4 Vette...

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Having the titanium key is nice. but like i really could care less, its a key wtf.

Hands down i'd choose a 370z over a '90 2+2 NA 300zx.... i mean, without even thinking for a second. Especially with that tweed interior
I think I mentioned it to you at a meet before, but the titanium key can wear out the pins in the ignition lock... so really not an advantage, per se (though pretty cool; the design of the key is really cool, too).

And total agreed on a 2by2 NA - but a 2by2 with a TT swap? It'd be a tough call, man.

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And a TT with breather mods should be quicker in a straight line, but the 370z would still probably out handle it (assuming they both had stock suspension)
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