Must read now 370 vs Camaro.. !!
 

Hello buds.. I came across a funny forum and here is what they were saying..

Camaro VS 370Z - Camaro Forum - 2009 Camaro / 2010 Camaro / New Camaro SS Z28 Forums - Camaro5.com

Here is what i gave them..

Reply to " Camaro vs 370z " - Camaro Forum - 2009 Camaro / 2010 Camaro / New Camaro SS Z28 Forums - Camaro5.com


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"The camaro is better because its american!" :ugh:

Thats whats i thought :rofl2:

Who cares what they think? :rolleyes:

No need for this site to turn into another "MyD***'sbiggerthanyours.com". There's plenty of kids to enjoy that nonsense on the "other Z" sites.

The Camaro and the 370Z arent even in the same segment. For some reason, people seem to think they are...probably because the Camaro blows away everything in its segment as it is :)

They're different cars for different folks with different needs and wants. It's not fair to either car to compare them directly on that level.

I'm sure both are good cars, just for different reasons.

There really wasn't any need to go over there to stir the pot. Sure some of the posts were silly, but plenty of them were perfectly logical.

Sorry for my ignorance i was just comparing the two cars when i saw how many of them were talking so much bull crap on the Z and none of it made sense

Don't take this the wrong way but I think you did more harm than good. Separate thread, poorly constructed paragraph, etc. :/

It IS a Camaro forum afterall, let them think what they want.

I agree. I read about a page and there are some decent posts, along with some other posts that are to be expected.

Check out the thread on the camaro on this forum....not exactly flattering either. But that's to be expected of any brand/car specific forum.

With that said though, I actually do enjoy these type of threads, but you need to look for the objective posts and not let the "fanboy" posts bother you.

Sorry if i made anyone look bad, Yeah i just threw my words together poorly and was very bored

Everybody knows that you aren't a good, patriotic American unless you buy an "American" car (note that whether the "American" car is built in CONUS or Canada or Mexico and whether it has 90% NA parts content or 5% NA parts content notwithstanding).

I was an early member of one of the first F-body forums and stayed a member for almost a decade so it's with some actual knowledge when I say that many, many members of such forums truly think in line with the above and that opinions to the contrary are not welcome or tolerated.

dont be sorry your paragraph doesnt have to be grammatically correct, your just expressing your opinion. its just a forum not a college discussion

Screw "American" cars... everyone on this forum should support their US economy and buy an American made Harley-Davidson motorcycle!

...sorry, I'm an engineer for Harley, and I'd like to keep my job...

I had a Vietnam veteran pull up to me the other day on the road in his bike asking me why I bought a Japanese vehicle and then scolded me for not supporting America. I rolled up my window while laughing and turned a different direction. I'm sure that leather vest he was wearing was made in America... or that television he has in his home.

Did Nissan get a federal bailout and is it in danger of bankruptcy? I like the Camaro but right now GM just doesn't instill me with a feeling of consumer confidence.

.....whistles innocently
I'm surprised no one has posted up the new predicted NISMO numbers (0-60 4.5) and $37K guestimate price over there yet.

.....whistles innocently
:D

Bought one in oct. Buying a Z next. :tup:

You have to understand, when it comes to the current world auto industry, the "buy American" argument only makes sense to those who can't understand the reality of the industry today or those who refuse to understand it.

Trying to engage in any sort of logical/factual argument with those of that mindset is a waste of time because their position is not based on logic or facts; it's based on emotion and a world-view of the domestic automotive industry that may have been accurate in the 1960's but hasn't been accurate for a three or four decades.

What I don't understand about these futile magazine racing comparisons is, why are they comparing a top end Camaro to an low end 370Z? Shouldn't they compare the Camaro SS to the Nismo Z??

Magazines compare cars to sell magazines; not necessarily because the vehicles compared make any real sense to anyone in the real world.

Camaro, the great American Muscle Car. Developed in Australia and Made in Canada... What did they say on the Camaro Forum, Buy american?? :rolleyes: Sorry, could help myself...

Very inmature bunch for the most part over there with a couple of morons who obviously don't know what they're talking about as they keep ragging about the 350Z like that's what the new Camaro is being compared to. Don't have a clue that the 370 is a different car.
Why should anybody care what somebody else likes or doesn't anyway? One of the ways that you can tell that you've grown up is... you recognise that debating with idiots is a waste of time.
I hope the new Camaro is a quality car. I'm a fan of the American hotrod and I like the nastalgia thing. As long as GM respects the American auto buyer by delivering a quality product, I'll be rooting for their success.

True enough
 

I hope the Camaro lives up to everyones expectation that buys one. I know my Z will live up to mine. In the end, thats all that matters.

At one point and time I felt the same way....camaro this, mustang that. Then I drove a 840 hp car manufactured in Japan............hah hah that was it. But, in the end, its what makes the buyer happy. I think I recall having the " OH yeah, well, my dads got a ..........." arguement when I was around 7 years old. Good thing Ive grown up now.

did i see somewhere that the new Camaro comes with a free mullet???

Nah, just free stereotypes :)

I wanted to like the new camaro, I really did. The outside reminds me of the old days. When I looked inside,, well, they are still plastic crap and ugly. The 370 is such a gorgeous interior, it just blows the camaro away. The outside of the 370 is every bit as gorgeous as the camaro and is a better made car.

I felt the same way Alan. They had the very base of base models at the Portland Car Show and I was supremely dissapointed. The black steelies just didn't work for it and the interior was so drab and pathetic I thought I was in a Cobalt. The shapes are interesting but there is nothing to break up the monotony. Just one long slab of hard plastic.

If anyone thinks visibility in our car is tough they should sit in a Camaro. You'll love the vista like views the Z gives you in comparison.

It really looks gorgeous in pics and I'd like to see an upgraded trim in person.

On the other hand...the Challenger was really pretty damn sweet. It'd be like parking a boat but it seemed quite nice.

I DO like the new Camaro. But it wont be the track star I was looking for. That'd be the Corvette. But I confess, I do like the 370's styling more.

I was dead set on getting a C6 vette until I test drove the 370z. I like the looks and cabin much better. Yeah, the extra 100hp would've been nice no doubt but a daily driver isn't all about the engine.

I need to make it to a Chevy dealership to test drive one. I drove the new 2010 Mustang GTs and liked them. I'm sure I'll like the Camaro, too.

Unfortunately I only have so much money and can not afford all of the cars I want at one time. :D

Amen brother, I had to stop hanging out at that "other, myZ" site because of all that nonsense. Besides, this is just a much better group of guys anyway....... class acts, hope it stays this way for at least a little while :tup:

John

Thankfully mine wont be limited to DD status heh

It was a TOUGH decision for me to choose the 370Z over a 'Vette. The 370 is a better car in terms of fit and finish... just feels better on the inside... but the 'Vette just blows it away in power. I still have second thoughts everytime I see a nice C6.

In the end it comes down to, can you accept the lack of power the 370 has over the Corvettes downsides.

But if you purely want a race car, a used C6 Z51 is really the way to go, it beats the 370 on handling, braking, power...its rough :-/

No second thoughts here. For me, the Z just fit better. It fills a unique niche without any close cousins. Now if a new Supra or RX-7 were in production well that'd be a different story.

ask the camaro guys WTF is wrong with their calipers?


went and saw one today and yup just like i thought wheel weights glued to the calipers. car looked pretty cool i didnt realize they SS had the gunmetal lower trim in the front like the nismo 350 and GT-R that was a nice touch. i sat in it interior was ok but 370 is more upscale. camaro was a little bigger than i thought higher wheel arches and a taller car in person.


but seriously whats up with this


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1420/0506091808.jpg

They say Brembo on them? And Chevrolet?

Cobalt SS has em, too :)

cobalts have the wheel weights on the calipers?

ROFL, I didnt even see those, I figured it was just something behind the caliper lol.

Nice.

nope superglued to the top of them lol.

where i got the idea to go look for them and sure enough they exist

Jalopnik - 2010 Chevy Camaro Gets Mysterious Brake Weights - 2010 Chevrolet Camaro

The confusion started when a poster uploaded an image of his new Camaro's Brembo calipers, on which were riding two rows of lead weights, normally affixed to the inside of a wheel rim to balance the tire. This led everyone with a Camaro to run outside to see it their mullet machine's also had the weights, which they do, at least on among the folks on the forum. GM has not answered to the confusion yet, but the leading theory is they were place on the caliper as a quick and dirty fix to alleviate brake squeal. From a physics perspective, this explanation is plausible, as resonant frequency is in large part determined by mass, and by changing the vibrating mass of the caliper with the weights, a troublesome squeal would be eliminated for a particular driving condition.

The trouble is if they're using normal brake weights, the heat cycling of the caliper will eventually cause the adhesive to fail and, if things get too serious on the track, the lead could actually melt. Though it's an odd issue and not really a big deal, we'll be keeping you in on the loop during Camaro brake-gate, though we recommend Camaro owners visit their local dealer and have their muffler bearings, blinker fluid, and piston-return springs checked out, just in case

other camaro "issues"

grill cracks at high speed runs this one seems fixed

power failure @ 40 miles from the dealership GM issued a recal today on this one