Must read now 370 vs Camaro.. !!

Izzoh · 05-13-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger

I wasn't saying it would be a markup, I meant if you add options like most cars will have. $34K model with a few options will be around $38K. If you look at their website and look at the price of options, the aerodynamic package thing is $2300 by itself, so just adding that one option gets you to $36.3K, then you have floormats, etc. While the model does start at $34K, probably won't be many of those with no options. you could special order one and keep it at $34K I suppose.

I have no idea what kind of deal you can get on one, i am talking sticker price only.

regardless, i can't imagine paying $40K for a camaro, so, to me, a camaro priced in the high $30's is not a bargain but instead is the highest price I could imagine for that car. people that like camaros may think $40K would still be a good deal. just my .02.

True I dont think there should be a 40k Camaro either same as I dont think their should be a 40k 370z ( at least a 40k V6 Z ). Which is why I'm glad they both have base versions that keep the main features and come in at the low 30's.

RoccoSiffredi · 05-13-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger

I wasn't saying it would be a markup, I meant if you add options like most cars will have. $34K model with a few options will be around $38K. If you look at their website and look at the price of options, the aerodynamic package thing is $2300 by itself, so just adding that one option gets you to $36.3K, then you have floormats, etc. While the model does start at $34K, probably won't be many of those with no options. you could special order one and keep it at $34K I suppose.

I have no idea what kind of deal you can get on one, i am talking sticker price only.

regardless, i can't imagine paying $40K for a camaro, so, to me, a camaro priced in the high $30's is not a bargain but instead is the highest price I could imagine for that car. people that like camaros may think $40K would still be a good deal. just my .02.

I don't think adding the gound effects kit is a fair comparison. Most of the new f-body owners are not getting it. Using that logic would be equivalent to tacking on a bunch of dealer installed NISMO options and saying the Z is over $40k. Not the case. You can get Zs for much less than that all day long.

You can get a loaded SS for around $35k. Again a bargin in my book. Find me any car that handles well, has 400 plus horse power, traps at 111, and that stickers in the mid 30s? Good luck.

Lug · 05-13-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RoccoSiffredi

I don't think adding the gound effects kit is a fair comparison. Most of the new f-body owners are not getting it. Using that logic would be equivalent to tacking on a bunch of dealer installed NISMO options and saying the Z is over $40k. Not the case. You can get Zs for much less than that all day long.

You can get a loaded SS for around $35k. Again a bargin in my book. Find me any car that handles well, has 400 plus horse power, traps at 111, and that stickers in the mid 30s? Good luck.

I've seen new vettes going for under $39K lately. That's a far better deal, IMNSHO.

Izzoh · 05-13-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

I've seen new vettes going for under $39K lately. That's a far better deal, IMNSHO.

Where ???

Lug · 05-13-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzoh

Where ???

I saw 5 of them on AutoTrader about a week ago when I did a search on new Vettes and filtered under $40,000. None today though. This is THE time to get a Vette if you ever want one, after this recession, you'll probably never see new ones at this price again.

SiXK · 05-13-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RoccoSiffredi

I don't think adding the gound effects kit is a fair comparison. Most of the new f-body owners are not getting it. Using that logic would be equivalent to tacking on a bunch of dealer installed NISMO options and saying the Z is over $40k. Not the case. You can get Zs for much less than that all day long.

You can get a loaded SS for around $35k. Again a bargin in my book. Find me any car that handles well, has 400 plus horse power, traps at 111, and that stickers in the mid 30s? Good luck.

I just went by the option prices on their website. Its safe to say you can get a $34K SS with a few minor options (floormats, etc) for $35K, and you could load it up for a few thousand more. I am not trying to dog on the camaro, the more performance cars out there the better.

gmag21 · 07-04-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eXo5

"I like a fine body regardless of the make or model"

lmao fast and furious

frost · 07-04-2009, 06:15 PM

RAWR! Thread back from dead!!

370Z Purist · 07-05-2009, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

RAWR! Thread back from dead!!

Hooray for revived threads on completely pointless topics (like comparing another car to the forum car... and expecting only good replies that remain coherent and non-fanboi loaded).

ADmaster71690 · 07-05-2009, 04:26 PM

does anyone have a good acceleration comparison of the two vehicles (i.e. both vehicles tested by the same magazine at the same time)? I'm assuming the Camaro is faster, just want to see by how much.

SpawnAeroJohn · 07-05-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mental Block

I had a Vietnam veteran pull up to me the other day on the road in his bike asking me why I bought a Japanese vehicle and then scolded me for not supporting America. I rolled up my window while laughing and turned a different direction. I'm sure that leather vest he was wearing was made in America... or that television he has in his home.

Lol 1959 Zenith television.

nicknick · 07-05-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alan64

I wanted to like the new camaro, I really did. The outside reminds me of the old days. When I looked inside,, well, they are still plastic crap and ugly. The 370 is such a gorgeous interior, it just blows the camaro away. The outside of the 370 is every bit as gorgeous as the camaro and is a better made car.

I disagree. The interior of the Z is way better but the exterior is not better than the Camaro. In fact it is streets ahead. Love the Z!

Crash · 07-06-2009, 12:10 AM

Oiy... I can't read all these pages from both the camaro thread and the z thread...

TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS! DIFFERENT PURPOSES!

They both have their pros and cons. Some of the things said by both Camaro fan boys and Z fan boys are totally ignorant.

I've been on both sides of the fence and I can say that it's amazing how dumb the argument is. And fanboy or not for either of the cars, some of the comments made were down right stupid.

"It's better cause it's American"
"Z's a better track car"
"Camaros get shock and awe"
"Z's look better"
"Who wants a 2 door maxima"

Seriously dumb comments. I've owned a few F-Bodies and I've owned a Z. They are two TOTALLY different animals and can't be compared other than having wheels and a motor. They serve the driver differently and have completely different goals, no different from comparing the 370z to the G37.

I think this argument is moot, but leave it to ignorant fanboys to forget that as gear heads we should appreciate the good in any vehicle.

Pushing_Tin · 07-06-2009, 12:19 AM

The made in America comment is absurd. It's was designed in Australia and made in Canada. How exactly is it American?

I do think it's a fine car though, and did cross shop it. In the end I'm very happy with the Z and glad I don't have to worry about GM going tits up.

fly yellow · 07-06-2009, 12:42 AM

The way I see it, everyone of us who pays taxes bought American and we don't have a car to show for it.

Now that the unions have hustled the taxpayer I will never buy another American car again.

07-06-2009, 12:10 AM	#103 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	Oiy... I can't read all these pages from both the camaro thread and the z thread... TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS! DIFFERENT PURPOSES! They both have their pros and cons. Some of the things said by both Camaro fan boys and Z fan boys are totally ignorant. I've been on both sides of the fence and I can say that it's amazing how dumb the argument is. And fanboy or not for either of the cars, some of the comments made were down right stupid. "It's better cause it's American" "Z's a better track car" "Camaros get shock and awe" "Z's look better" "Who wants a 2 door maxima" Seriously dumb comments. I've owned a few F-Bodies and I've owned a Z. They are two TOTALLY different animals and can't be compared other than having wheels and a motor. They serve the driver differently and have completely different goals, no different from comparing the 370z to the G37. I think this argument is moot, but leave it to ignorant fanboys to forget that as gear heads we should appreciate the good in any vehicle. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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fly yellow Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 455 Drives: 09 yellow 370z Rep Power: 265	The way I see it, everyone of us who pays taxes bought American and we don't have a car to show for it. Now that the unions have hustled the taxpayer I will never buy another American car again. __________________ A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer. Mitch Hedberg

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