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zcoupe09 09-14-2011 09:06 PM

Possibly trading in Z...what to get?
 
might have to get rid of the Z unfortunately...looking for something bigger but dont wanna loose too much speed or handling...was thinking A4/335..something along those lines...any suggestions would help...thanks again guys

CC_370z 09-14-2011 09:18 PM

G37? 4 seats

New Mustang GT? 4 seats

Lemers 09-14-2011 09:22 PM

Shelby

chuckd05 09-14-2011 09:28 PM

a4 is slow... s4 is a good choice

i just got a 135 N54 though, TT motor and with just a jb4 tune its A LOT faster than my z with full bolt ons was...

535 , 550, s5, mustang gt, shelby, few year old 550i m sport is a sick car, few year old m5, 4 door e90 m3, subaru WRX STI , mercedes AMG car, etc

Trips 09-14-2011 09:39 PM

Hummer H1

LakeShow 09-14-2011 09:45 PM

I also have a 2010 Maxima. It's such an amazing car for the price if you get it loaded up with all the goodies Nav, sport, etc. Look into it and test drive one just to check it out. Doesn't hurt.

kensnismo 09-14-2011 09:51 PM

new ZL1 camaro 580 HP about $47,000.

NYBladeZ 09-14-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 1313746)
a4 is slow... s4 is a good choice

i just got a 135 N54 though, TT motor and with just a jb4 tune its A LOT faster than my z with full bolt ons was...

Congrats on the purchase, however an F.I. Z blows the doors off any BMW short of the new m5 and maybe the m6. Also in the long run I think it will be cheaper to get huge power out of an F.I. Z than a 135 but hey now we get to find out in time don't we :). Nonetheless bmw does have a certain level of luxury that the Z lacks. I hope you won't turn your back on us Z guys now that you got the 135.

NYBladeZ 09-14-2011 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kensnismo (Post 1313775)
new ZL1 camaro 580 HP about $47,000.

That is before dealer markup, you will pay over $50k for it and if you aren't willing to someone other old guy who will think its a collector car will.

kidkotic2001 09-14-2011 09:54 PM

Cadillac CTS coupe 4 seats and you wont loose a lot of HP or handling. If you get the CTS-V I believe it has more power than the Z.
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NYBladeZ 09-14-2011 09:56 PM

For all the stats the CTS-V puts down I saw a relatively stock 2004 Sti beat it once and on two other runs the CTS-V was in mid 4th before he caught up. Embarrassing for what on paper is a godly car.

ZeeingAround 09-14-2011 10:21 PM

Sounds like the CTS-v driver didn't care about the old suby or couldn't drive.

Lemers 09-14-2011 10:27 PM

Or it took a little longer getting that heavier V8 moving

chuckd05 09-14-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1313776)
Congrats on the purchase, however an F.I. Z blows the doors off any BMW short of the new m5 and maybe the m6. Also in the long run I think it will be cheaper to get huge power out of an F.I. Z than a 135 but hey now we get to find out in time don't we :). Nonetheless bmw does have a certain level of luxury that the Z lacks. I hope you won't turn your back on us Z guys now that you got the 135.


I would be more than happy to find out about that...

cheaper in long run? I spend 22k on my 135... 600 in I GAURANTEE I will go 12.2 or better at the track if I went right now...

another 400 for used downpipes, $480 for meth kit, $600 for intercooler, and 100 oct gas and I will have 450hp / 480 tq in a car that weighs 3100 lbs... with radials will go 11.5 or better at 121-125 for just about 2,000. Beyond that guys get upgraded turbos (2500) and only pull abother 50 hp or so, or shoot with a small shot of nitrous.. which makes the car NUTTY... a guy trapped 130 something on a GPS device.. ill post his vid in a second, its bezerk and he is on stock intercooler, turbos, and intake, lol...


Id love to run a SC Z or a lightly boosted 370z once I get my washer fluid meth kit installed, that will put me in the high 11 second range with only 1400 invested.......

the Z will get faster but certainly wont be cheaper... check dragtimes there are a slew of 1s in low 11 range... I will make a thread soon with the 1 and its progress.. so far just JB4, duel cone intakes, and a modified clutch valve that improves shift time... downpipes and exhaust will be installed by the end of the week... Im up in the air about the exhaust because I LOVE how quite the car is while being so quick already..


But for the OP if you want a similar speed car with luxory def look at CPO'd 3 series, the 4 door e90s could be had for low 20s and with just a flash have well over 300 hp and 340 tq.... its pretty impressive how they cars react to mods... some say they have there problems, fuel pump is certainly one of them but its warrantied regardless to 120k and seems to be some what resolved with the new one..

the 2008-9 blocks are also forged, I own a 2008 and thats really fn awesome


here is downpipes, stock intake, aftermarket exhaust, meth kit, 36 shot of nitrous, JB4 , and race gas on STOCK intercooler which is junk

its an 11.4 at 130 on a race logiv with a 1.9 60, these cars can pull 1.6 60s driven right, so if he could do that theres a 10.8 run with not that many mods at all... granted a 36 shot of nitrous and meth is on wild side , but he is only running 15 psi as well, most run 17 on race gas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V-uN4XoZjg

Red__Zed 09-14-2011 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1313776)
Congrats on the purchase, however an F.I. Z blows the doors off any BMW short of the new m5 and maybe the m6. Also in the long run I think it will be cheaper to get huge power out of an F.I. Z than a 135 but hey now we get to find out in time don't we :). Nonetheless bmw does have a certain level of luxury that the Z lacks. I hope you won't turn your back on us Z guys now that you got the 135.

I'm not so sure on this.


OP, 335/135 is a lot of fun, worth checking out. Depending on why you want bigger, the STI/EVO are also worth looking at.

NickTurnon 09-14-2011 10:41 PM

I would highly suggest checking out the Cadillac CTS-V- The stock engine produces 556 HP. Its beyond luxurious & it is a great riding car.

The 335 btw is a fantastic car. A4 was my first choice. Even above the 370..
I chose the 370 because it would take a ton of mods to get the A4 to the speed I need. The BMW has class.

Let me know what you chose

chuckd05 09-14-2011 10:49 PM

cts-v is def another one... i love the suby sti as welll, i considered it but it needed a block re build to make the power Id want and that is something I didnt want to do to a new car..

but the STI can make 400ish perfectly safe and they sound awesome...

cts-v is def just a bad *** car that no one can say two bad things about.. but its pricey

UNKNOWN_370 09-14-2011 10:57 PM

Fun four seaters.

G37s coupe or sedan
Mitsu evo
Subie sti
Bmw 1 or 335I
Mustang or camaro SHELBY/SS-ZL1
Hyundai genesis coupe 3.8 manual or genesis r-spec
mortgage your house and buy a GT-R black edition. :) the gtr is so sick. You hear the tturbos while it cruises at 5mph. How sick is that. :)

Justin1686 09-14-2011 11:14 PM

gotta give a little more detail. how much u wanna spend, 2 seats, or 4 seats. etc.

as you've seen you've gotten a large range of cars suggested to you, so i'll chime in just a little too..

dont do a4, i have multiple friends with audis. all with a4, much rathe my car, only way to do it is s4, or consider an a5.
3 series is nice, i personally think the 1 series is too small.
cts-v, am i the only one whos knees hit and cant fit properly in it?
mustang gt or shelby are decent.
porsche cayman.
g37.
vette.

obviously pending on price, might have to looked CPO on all of these. but those would be my suggestions.

NYBladeZ 09-14-2011 11:27 PM

The price of heavily modding the Z is a bit on the high side because the market is just now opening up. Not knocking the 135 but a lot of my buddies have tuned bmws and it is by no means cheap. GTM kind of has the market cornered when it comes to major aftermarket tuning and product development which doesn't help the issue and VVEL remains locked so the Z's true potential is unknown and may never be known. Nonetheless, looking back it is still cheaper to tune a z33 than an e46 m3.

On the CTS-V trust me he cared, a lot and he got laughed at by a lot of people. Its a paddle shift so driver input is at a minimum. Dare I say overrated.

chuckd05 09-15-2011 02:29 AM

Cts-v comes in manual.

135 is def much cheaper to mod but more expensive if it breaks. Like I said 1500 in you have over 400tq to the wheel

ImportConvert 09-15-2011 03:03 AM

Nothing is going to replace a Z and yet give you the increased seating, etc. It's about feel. You can find plenty of cars that turn similar numbers on the track, but none will feel like the 370Z that have 4 seats. A base V6 mustang turns similar numbers at VIR and on the dragstrip, but it doesn't feel anything like a 370Z.

Red370 09-15-2011 03:04 AM

Women drive 1 series bmws, I would know, I live in Germany. Go with American muscle, for the price, nothing beats em, any model. And if you want a true performer with bang for the buck, get a Boss. Dont know too many cars that for less than 50k can beat an R8 around Laguna Seca.

Red370 09-15-2011 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05 (Post 1313971)
Cts-v comes in manual.

135 is def much cheaper to mod but more expensive if it breaks. Like I said 1500 in you have over 400tq to the wheel

$400 here :happydance:

DLSTR 09-15-2011 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zcoupe09 (Post 1313711)
might have to get rid of the Z unfortunately...looking for something bigger but dont wanna loose too much speed or handling...was thinking A4/335..something along those lines...any suggestions would help...thanks again guys

Used S5 or S4.

ImportConvert 09-15-2011 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 1313979)
Women drive 1 series bmws, I would know, I live in Germany. Go with American muscle, for the price, nothing beats em, any model. And if you want a true performer with bang for the buck, get a Boss. Dont know too many cars that for less than 50k can beat an R8 around Laguna Seca.

One word of caution. The tires on the boss are basically a full-on track tire. Most other cars do not come this way from the factory so their OEM handling isn't as good. However, you do have to replace those tires VERY often, and at a rather high price.

Red370 09-15-2011 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1313992)
One word of caution. The tires on the boss are basically a full-on track tire. Most other cars do not come this way from the factory so their OEM handling isn't as good. However, you do have to replace those tires VERY often, and at a rather high price.

True statement. You gotta admit though, for all you get with the car, $42k for a proven track performer, it cant be beat. They have them here at the AAFES car sales for MSRP, ZERO dealer mark up, and i'm still kicking myself in the arse for buying my GT when I did.

red6spd 09-15-2011 07:42 AM

I say STI. Oh and Chuck, the 135 weighs almost 3400 pounds according to BMW website so ha the Z wins :stirthepot: LOL

Mike 09-15-2011 08:02 AM

M37/45

Red__Zed 09-15-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1313992)
One word of caution. The tires on the boss are basically a full-on track tire. Most other cars do not come this way from the factory so their OEM handling isn't as good. However, you do have to replace those tires VERY often, and at a rather high price.

Are you talking about the laguna secs boss? Because the pzeros n the regular boss aren't far off from anything on any regular performance car.

ImportConvert 09-15-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 1314009)
True statement. You gotta admit though, for all you get with the car, $42k for a proven track performer, it cant be beat. They have them here at the AAFES car sales for MSRP, ZERO dealer mark up, and i'm still kicking myself in the arse for buying my GT when I did.

Not trying to take away from the car at all, for the price, it's amazing. Just saying that there is a bit of fine print that comes with that performance.

ImportConvert 09-15-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1314060)
Are you talking about the laguna secs boss? Because the pzeros n the regular boss aren't far off from anything on any regular performance car.

Yes.

wh1te370z 09-15-2011 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 1313979)
Women drive 1 series bmws, I would know, I live in Germany. Go with American muscle, for the price, nothing beats em, any model. And if you want a true performer with bang for the buck, get a Boss. Dont know too many cars that for less than 50k can beat an R8 around Laguna Seca.

American Muscle is starting to get old. The only person right now that has a good muscle car is.. i hate to say it but ford. the new 5.0 or boss. anything else is a let down. New camaro, overated. New challenger, weight to power is poor, handling is ehh. Charger, nothing good. Vette, to many on the road.

IMO, from owning both sides and driving a lot of really cool cars. Theirs nothing like any car thats... not american lol. The fit and finish is beyond any pos american cars. the performace is beyond any ameriacn muscle car. ive driven many exotic and crazily built cars and it doesnt come close to any american car.

If you want a F'n fun car and are willing to pay for it, buy a used C63 AMG Benz. By FAR one of my fav cars that i would DD. 450HP w a 4 door car (the new 2 door is ugly) way to much fun. and it has a 6.3 V8! lol handling isnt like a z tho

NYBladeZ 09-15-2011 12:48 PM

for a new c63 you could find a way to get the 5.0 and the Z

Pushing_Tin 09-15-2011 01:00 PM

http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms...p=090616_10:19

You can pick up a lightly used AMG for less than half new. Well over 500hp.

atx370z 09-15-2011 01:08 PM

2012 C63 AMG Coupe = Game Over

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0-u40O8E8q...G-Coupe-33.jpg

wh1te370z 09-15-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ (Post 1314546)
for a new c63 you could find a way to get the 5.0 and the Z

new they are around 60k i believe

I would just get a used one for like 35-40.



the coupe doesnt look that good IMO the 4dr looks like a crazy sleeper

atx370z 09-15-2011 01:08 PM

If i felt like paying $900+ a month for a car.. I would have that Merc right now.

NYBladeZ 09-15-2011 01:13 PM

Still I wouldn't want to be in a C63 and have to hit an apple on the apex of a turn.

Dark Sarcasm 09-15-2011 02:12 PM

Wrx sti ftw!


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