Thinking of selling and buying

Nikon FM · 09-08-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredmd

Having owned, modified and tracked a 1988 911 Turbo Targa, I have extensive experience.
I was fortunate to own seven 911 models (4 Turbos) before retirement. Frankly, the stock 1986-89 911 Turbo models were plagued with several characteristics that were dangerous to novice drivers: Severe lift-throttle oversteer, prolonged turbo-lag and very strong steering wheel kick-back.
While Porsche enthusiasts claim these were part of the car's "soul" and "character", that is pure rubbish.
Now, modifying the car did reduce this aberrant behavior to some degree, hence, your experience whilst test-driving the 911 in question is most important. Did you thoroughly test-drive the car? What were your impressions?
Maintenance was expensive back in 1988; Champion Motors who sold and modified my '88 911 Turbo insisted the engine be dropped to properly tune it!

I initially drove the car about 20 miles.

The car has a larger 94 turbo and intercooler that enables a linear boost........sweet to experience and no snap or lag type behavior.

The road feel is amazing. I've joked with Porsche club members by telling them "I swear I could feel shadow's on the asphalt while driving it"

and I have two other DD cars (1990 300ZX na and an AWD SUV) so the Posrshe would definitely claim the garage space.

This would be a somewhat nice day and track day driver.

Strapping into those race seats on a daily basis would be a pain.

This may not happen due to the what the inspection finds...........I'll post up the verdict after the fact.

gotchu99 · 09-09-2011, 11:19 AM

I would think it through. Porsche Gremlins are going to cost you a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

Nikon FM · 09-09-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gotchu99

I would think it through. Porsche Gremlins are going to cost you a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

Yeah, I hear you

The inspection is being done by the guy who originally buffed (450 rwhp) the car out and will count 99 percent towards my purchase decision. My confidence in that guy finding the gremlins is pretty high.

AllForTheCash · 09-18-2011, 02:55 PM

I prefer the 993 turbo!

m4a1mustang · 09-08-2011, 07:10 AM

Very cool. If the car checks out I say go for it. Looks like a fun new project.

FuszNissan · 09-08-2011, 07:25 AM

Just be prepared for more maintenance $$$ going into the car.

I have a Z32TT(not saying it's the same), took me almost a year to get rid of all it's demons. Leak, after Leak after Leak. I think I have replaced every 20 year old hose on the car. But I knew going into it I would spend thousands on maintenance repairs, so it really didn't bother me. ($4,000.00 in 10 months, and I am probably not finished)

I think that car looks awesome, if you have the cash to make it run right down the road, then go for it! If not, I would look at something else.

2011 Nismo#91 · 09-08-2011, 08:01 AM

Find a good Porsche forum and spend sometime there learning all the quirks of that car. Older cars are nice because they are rare but I wouldn't have one as my primary car. What's your other car?

edub370 · 09-08-2011, 11:46 AM

for those of you who think this is a "step down" go drive a porsche from any generation... then come back and re-evaluate

Nikon FM · 09-08-2011, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

for those of you who think this is a "step down" go drive a porsche from any generation... then come back and re-evaluate

^ Thanks for that. It is the driving experience and feel that motivates this move….but with a ton of caution based on a number of issues people (local Porsche club buddies and this forum…same points) have brought up.

Information/data is good! Thanks for the opinions/recommendations

11Thumper · 09-08-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

for those of you who think this is a "step down" go drive a porsche from any generation... then come back and re-evaluate

I was speaking more towards reliability and overall cost of ownership, newer car with more modern technology, etc. I'm sure from a performance aspect it wouldn't be a step down.

mjg · 09-08-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

for those of you who think this is a "step down" go drive a porsche from any generation... then come back and re-
evaluate

To each their own.

He seems like he knows what he wants, and already owns a classic Z...

mbenetto · 09-08-2011, 09:44 PM

nice car... but definetly a money pit.

Pushing_Tin · 09-09-2011, 03:10 AM

You only live once, if it checks out do it! I'm not sure I could DD a car like that though, I need creature comforts. Let us know what you find out/decide.

ImportConvert · 09-09-2011, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikon FM

Thinking of selling my 370Z and buying a Porsche 1987 930- 911 Turbo

"1987 Porsche 930
Significant engine upgrades (450hp):
Ported and polished heads, AASCO valve springs and titanium retainers, racing cams, ARP connecting rod bolts, larger Porsche intercooler, upgraded to 94 turbo intake, Powerhouse headers, dual exhaust with 4” pipes, Andial enrichment system, Powerhouse injector blocks.

Suspension enhancements:
Weltmeister torsion bars (27 front, 33 rear), sway bars (21 front, 21 rear), Beilstein sport shocks front and rear, Fikse FM 10 wheels (8” front, 10” rear), tires 245 front, 275 rear, all modifications within Porsche specs.

Interior:
SRD Recaro seats with five point harness, Momo steering wheel with Porsche crest, upgraded Porsche Becker CD player, Powerhouse boost gauge, Andial 10000 RPM tach.

Exterior:
Upgraded door mirrors, 3.8 RS carbon fiber tail wing."

Going old school………... Thoughts?

Keep your Z and add this car. If you cannot afford to do that, you cannot afford to own this car, anyway.

Nikon FM · 09-09-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Keep your Z and add this car. If you cannot afford to do that, you cannot afford to own this car, anyway.

Different perspectives/logic, but money is not the primary issue here. I have little room for too many cars; function drives the ownership. Why have 2 fast non snow cars? The 300 is a trooper and can handle a little ice and snow just fine.

09-09-2011, 11:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
gotchu99 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: ny Posts: 86 Drives: '09 370z black mt, Rep Power: 15	I would think it through. Porsche Gremlins are going to cost you a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Last edited by gotchu99; 09-09-2011 at 11:30 AM.

09-18-2011, 02:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
AllForTheCash Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 385 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 15	I prefer the 993 turbo! __________________ 2010 370z Brilliant Silver/Frost - Touring - Sport - Navigation - 6MT

09-08-2011, 07:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Very cool. If the car checks out I say go for it. Looks like a fun new project. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

09-08-2011, 07:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 543	Just be prepared for more maintenance $$$ going into the car. I have a Z32TT(not saying it's the same), took me almost a year to get rid of all it's demons. Leak, after Leak after Leak. I think I have replaced every 20 year old hose on the car. But I knew going into it I would spend thousands on maintenance repairs, so it really didn't bother me. ($4,000.00 in 10 months, and I am probably not finished) I think that car looks awesome, if you have the cash to make it run right down the road, then go for it! If not, I would look at something else. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

09-08-2011, 11:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	for those of you who think this is a "step down" go drive a porsche from any generation... then come back and re-evaluate __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq

09-08-2011, 08:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,407 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40570	Find a good Porsche forum and spend sometime there learning all the quirks of that car. Older cars are nice because they are rare but I wouldn't have one as my primary car. What's your other car?

09-08-2011, 09:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
mbenetto Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 72 Drives: PG 2009 370z Touring Rep Power: 14	nice car... but definetly a money pit.

09-09-2011, 03:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 228	You only live once, if it checks out do it! I'm not sure I could DD a car like that though, I need creature comforts. Let us know what you find out/decide.

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