New Car and Driver review of the 370z... oil temp fail!

Davey · 07-25-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

free life lesson of the day. lets use a metaphor:

Lets say u go to a Yankees game. the team is playing pretty well and fighting for a top spot in the division. a couple of the fans are saying, "man we would play so much better if Jeter (lets pretend he's hurt) were playing. seems like that combined with the umps giving us the shaft the last couple games is killing us." They obviously seem passionate about their team, and really enjoy watching them.

Then, all the sudden u turn around and say, "Well in my opinion, the Yankess aren't that good when compared to the Red Sox. pPdroya's a better player, and boston has a nicer stadium. and u guys shouldnt try to put losing the games on a couple bad calls or a couple tools you are missing on the infield. When in reality, your team sucks all around."

Yankees fans then proceed to beat the life out of you and everyone in the stadium cheers. later, when a news team comes to interview you in your hospital bed and the reporter says, "now why did everyone beat u up?"

You look up, tear rolling down your cheek, and simply go, "gee idk... i was just tellin the truth..."

see what i'm saying... you cant just come in the lions den, talk smack, and expect people not to defend something they are passionate about.

Moral of the story: a lil common sense goes a long ways

Well said.

Of course I love my Z, and of course I recognize there can be and ARE superior cars, and also recognize that this comparison is regarding "handling" which is subjective to some degree.

Certainly if we are to include high-tech stuff like the Evo's AWD system then it certainly has some advantages in terms of handling, and it absolutely should, given the level of technology.

But, then there are the actual performance numbers involved in the test which this guy can't seem to get his head around, and he comes back with this "If I got $800 to spend on mods of my choice..." crap that sounds like it belongs on a Honda forum... "$20K in mods and my Civic can hang with a Vette on any race track."

evoAXE · 07-25-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Davey

Well said.

Of course I love my Z, and of course I recognize there can be and ARE superior cars, and also recognize that this comparison is regarding "handling" which is subjective to some degree.

Certainly if we are to include high-tech stuff like the Evo's AWD system then it certainly has some advantages in terms of handling, and it absolutely should, given the level of technology.

But, then there are the actual performance numbers involved in the test which this guy can't seem to get his head around, and he comes back with this "If I got $800 to spend on mods of my choice..." crap that sounds like it belongs on a Honda forum... "$20K in mods and my Civic can hang with a Vette on any race track."

You guys are the ones throwing in mods.

In stock form, the Evo will decimate the 370z around a race track, after the 370z goes into limp mode.

I find it funny that the only people with track experience (me and grant) can have a reasonable discussion, while the people getting worked up are Sunday drivers. It's hard to estimate how a car handles when you don't know it's limits.

evoAXE · 07-25-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

i wonder how nissan would fair in the comparisons with an oil cooler and some brake ducts... we may never know

Here's "me" talking about modding.

evoAXE · 07-25-2012, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370

free life lesson of the day. lets use a metaphor:

Lets say u go to a Yankees game. the team is playing pretty well and fighting for a top spot in the division. a couple of the fans are saying, "man we would play so much better if Jeter (lets pretend he's hurt) were playing. seems like that combined with the umps giving us the shaft the last couple games is killing us." They obviously seem passionate about their team, and really enjoy watching them.

Then, all the sudden u turn around and say, "Well in my opinion, the Yankess aren't that good when compared to the Red Sox. pPdroya's a better player, and boston has a nicer stadium. and u guys shouldnt try to put losing the games on a couple bad calls or a couple tools you are missing on the infield. When in reality, your team sucks all around."

Yankees fans then proceed to beat the life out of you and everyone in the stadium cheers. later, when a news team comes to interview you in your hospital bed and the reporter says, "now why did everyone beat u up?"

You look up, tear rolling down your cheek, and simply go, "gee idk... i was just tellin the truth..."

see what i'm saying... you cant just come in the lions den, talk smack, and expect people not to defend something they are passionate about.

Moral of the story: a lil common sense goes a long ways

That's not what happened though.

We were talking about who would be fastest in the hands of unskilled driver.
I point out Evo.

I'm told to stop talking about "grocery getters"

You can read it here

New Car and Driver review of the 370z... oil temp fail!

kenchan · 07-25-2012, 10:19 AM

how do you put a whole tread on the ignore list?

edub370 · 07-25-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by evoAXE

You guys are the ones throwing in mods.

In stock form, the Evo will decimate the 370z around a race track, after the 370z goes into limp mode.

I find it funny that the only people with track experience (me and grant) can have a reasonable discussion, while the people getting worked up are Sunday drivers. It's hard to estimate how a car handles when you don't know it's limits.

you guys are the only one that has driven on a track here. ever. u have all the knowlege that nobody else has. thank u for enlightening us. gimme a break....

been to heartland with mine and autox'd it

ibtl

evoAXE · 07-25-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

you guys are the only one that has driven on a track here. ever. u have all the knowlege that nobody else has. thank u for enlightening us. gimme a break....

been to heartland with mine and autox'd it

ibtl

Wow, a real autox course? Grant and I actually compete. He knows what it's like on a national level, perhaps you could learn a bi from him, even if you're too proud to learn from me.

edub370 · 07-25-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by evoaxe

I find it funny that the only people with track experience (me and grant) can have a reasonable discussion, while the people getting worked up are sunday drivers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by edub370

Been to heartland with mine

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Originally Posted by evoaxe

wow, a real autox course?

smh...

Done with this. complete thread destruction has occured

Davey · 07-25-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

how do you put a whole tread on the ignore list?

CrownR426 · 07-25-2012, 11:46 AM

Touge!

evoAXE · 07-25-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

smh...

Done with this. complete thread destruction has occured

Do you drive at a competitive level?

DR_ · 07-25-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by evoAXE

Do you drive at a competitive level?

Do you? If so post a link to your results.

evoAXE · 07-25-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_

Do you? If so post a link to your results.

Yes, let's give the over dedicated fan boys my full name

I'll trade ya

edub370 · 07-25-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by evoAXE

Do you drive at a competitive level?

Sure don't.

But i don't need to compete at a high level at any of that to enjoy my car.

How have not been banned yet btw

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