Help with Aftermarket Steering Wheel Install

karotZ · 08-18-2011, 11:57 PM

Ok, so I got the DIY how to remove the steering wheel - but could not find how to install an aftermarket one. Currently I have a MOMO Trek Steering wheel, NRG Short Hub and NRG Quick Release 2.5. There are a butt-load of wires, I'm just afraid of seeing that SRS indicator. Any advice/instructions would be greatly appreciated as well as professional installer recommendation around San Diego. Pics are below.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-19-2011, 12:29 AM

WOW so are you going to use your ride as a track only car?

karotZ · 08-19-2011, 12:37 AM

Nah, my Z is a DD. I got tired of the OEM steering wheel being all leather.

gurneyeagle · 08-19-2011, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by karotZ

Nah, my Z is a DD. I got tired of the OEM steering wheel being all leather.

Why don't you just get it recovered then by an upholstery shop? Suede or alcantra are options.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-19-2011, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by karotZ

Nah, my Z is a DD. I got tired of the OEM steering wheel being all leather.

Only thing I'm thinking about right now is, if your steering wheel doesn't have an airbag? If a cop pulls you over? You will get a massive ticket and/or possibly towed, depending on state or you just won't pass inspection. Once you add one of those lightweight steering wheel systems on a car its automatically considered an off road car. Something to consider before going through the install. Wrapping or modifying the existing steering wheel is probably a better option imho.

Red__Zed · 08-19-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Only thing I'm thinking about right now is, if your steering wheel doesn't have an airbag? If a cop pulls you over? You will get a massive ticket and/or possibly towed, depending on state or you just won't pass inspection. Once you add one of those lightweight steering wheel systems on a car its automatically considered an off road car. Something to consider before going through the install. Wrapping or modifying the existing steering wheel is probably a better option imho.

Source for your claim?

Legally, you may have a shop remove a functional airbag only with cause(ie, too short), but you may personally remove it without issue.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/adap...r/Fre_ask_Ques.

The real issue to worry about is your insurance company, since they can refuse to cover injuries resulting from the missing airbag (state farm didnt care last I checked, ymmv). And then of course, the risk of killing or seriously injuring yourself, but that's a decision for you to make.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-19-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Source for your claim?

Legally, you may have a shop remove a functional airbag only with cause(ie, too short), but you may personally remove it without issue.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/adap...r/Fre_ask_Ques.

The real issue to worry about is your insurance company, since they can refuse to cover injuries resulting from the missing airbag (state farm didnt care last I checked, ymmv). And then of course, the risk of killing or seriously injuring yourself, but that's a decision for you to make.

Your link says page not found.

http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/for...70/scope/posts

Here's a whole discussion on the issue. But from I been told.. cars after 1989 must have airbags for on road use. You can remove your steering wheel for off road use. On tracks and road courses its legal to do anything to your car. maybe I'm wrong? But it seems I'm not the only one that has been told this. So if you can find a link that disproves this that ACTUALLY WORKS? Kool.

Red__Zed · 08-19-2011, 10:20 AM

Even that thread addresses they are srs items, you may personally remove them and still be federally legal.

Exemption From the Make Inoperative Prohibition

They are also required to fail everyone with test pipes and HFCs, and we all know how that goes.

List of things inspected in tx.

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05.01 Inspect Every Passenger Car For: (Listed in suggested order of inspection)

* Check for evidence of Financial Responsibility

1. Horn
2. Windshield Wipers
3. Mirror
4. Steering
5. Seat Belts
6. Brakes (system) (Parking - beginning with 1960 models)
7. Tires
8. Wheel Assembly
9. Exhaust System
10. Exhaust Emission System (beginning with 1968 models)
11. Beam Indicator (beginning with 1948 models)
12. Tail Lamps (2); (1) if 1959 model or earlier
13. Stop Lamps (2); (1) if 1959 model or earlier
14. License Plate Lamp (1)
15. Rear Red Reflectors (2)
16. Turn Signal Lamps (beginning with 1960 models)
17. Head Lamps (2)
18. Motor, Serial, or Vehicle Identification Number
19. 1988 & newer - inspect for window tinting or coating
20. Gas caps on vehicles 2-24 model years old.

Most people seem to have no issue passing sans airbag:
Texas inspection????? - JDM Universe.com

Inspection.....Airbag? - NASIOC

I'm curious what you think an officer might cite you for, since you mention " big $$$ tickets"

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf60/123015_web.pdf

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/interps/

kenchan · 08-19-2011, 11:22 AM

werd law cause if you're a short person and kinda cling to the steering wheel while driving, chances are this person will die from the airbag deploying in their face vs the impact from another car or wall or tree or pole or watever such people crash into.

theDreamer · 08-19-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by karotZ

Ok, so I got the DIY how to remove the steering wheel - but could not find how to install an aftermarket one. Currently I have a MOMO Trek Steering wheel, NRG Short Hub and NRG Quick Release 2.5. There are a butt-load of wires, I'm just afraid of seeing that SRS indicator. Any advice/instructions would be greatly appreciated as well as professional installer recommendation around San Diego. Pics are below.

To answer your question, there make kits so you can just quickly/easily wire it up, similar to how audio systems are done.
Shoot Baker Tuning a PM on the forum, paul should be able to direct you to the part of how to do it.

karotZ · 08-19-2011, 03:23 PM

Cool.... yeah... help guys???

kenchan · 08-19-2011, 03:30 PM

just pull... pull hard.

karotZ · 08-19-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

just pull... pull hard.

pulling hard aside, i got all the basics except which wire goes where? esp. that srs indicator looper / airbag sensor.

kenchan · 08-19-2011, 03:37 PM

for the SRS you should have 2 resistors for them to trick the srs that there is some load.

i believe these airbags are dual stage like the previuos Z and G.

karotZ · 08-19-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

for the SRS you should have 2 resistors for them to trick the srs that there is some load.

i believe these airbags are dual stage like the previuos Z and G.

This is which I have no clue how it will insert on the sensors. It looks easy but last thing I want to happen is the srs indicator turned on and wont come off.

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	WOW so are you going to use your ride as a track only car?

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	werd law cause if you're a short person and kinda cling to the steering wheel while driving, chances are this person will die from the airbag deploying in their face vs the impact from another car or wall or tree or pole or watever such people crash into.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	just pull... pull hard.

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	for the SRS you should have 2 resistors for them to trick the srs that there is some load. i believe these airbags are dual stage like the previuos Z and G.