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Joseph B 08-09-2011 10:25 AM

Now way this thing is a lemon.

Cmike2780 08-09-2011 10:29 AM

It sounds more like a lot of bad luck OP.

As with any new car, keep a detailed record of all the repair work and service done to the car. You might need it down the line.

If you still feel they sold you a lemon, I would insist on the dealership covering an extended warranty at no-charge to you. To be honest, a few blown fuses only means those failsafes worked. It is disheartning when the car is freshly off the lot though. Like everyone said, they likely shorted something out while re-installing the battery.

AlphaSnacks 08-09-2011 11:08 AM

What dealership was this?

11Thumper 08-09-2011 07:37 PM

Glad you got a Z and wish you the best sorting this all out. Personally, if a dealer made me sign that before a test drive I would laugh all the way out the door. Learn a lesson from that part of the deal...

mjg 08-10-2011 12:13 AM

Actually, I only signed a tentative agreement prior to the test drive, I put $100 just to put have the car reserved for me. I didn't agree to accept the car, until I made the test drive. I could of backed out at that point. Sorry probably didn't explain that right.

Even so -- I didn't notice those problems, I was more interested in how the car drove. I also didn't realize I could use this as a position to leverage to re-negotiate the price after we agreed on an initial number, or get free stuff like a spoiler LOL.

Hopefully I'll hear back about everything tomorrow. I do think I learned something this, I'm optimistic it will be sorted out.

11Thumper 08-10-2011 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjg (Post 1253825)
Actually, I only signed a tentative agreement prior to the test drive, I put $100 just to put have the car reserved for me. I didn't agree to accept the car, until I made the test drive. I could of backed out at that point. Sorry probably didn't explain that right.

Even so -- I didn't notice those problems, I was more interested in how the car drove. I also didn't realize I could use this as a position to leverage to re-negotiate the price after we agreed on an initial number, or get free stuff like a spoiler LOL.

Hopefully I'll hear back about everything tomorrow. I do think I learned something this, I'm optimistic it will be sorted out.

Not trying to come off like a jerk. Seriously, I wouldn't accept that. A dealer should never add a condition to a test drive, period. You should never sign anything prior.

I'm in NY this week and would be happy to bash you (in a friendly way) over a beer. :D

Dizon248 08-10-2011 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1251603)
well first off, i would NEVER buy a car without test driving the exact car i would pay money on unless it was a special order car. if the car was in the show room, i would tell them my mind is 99% set, but not 100% until i take the car out for a spin.

then i start signing papers.

anyway it sounds like the car was jumped incorrectly or battery hooked up backwards polarity, overloaded/shorted many things. i would review each and every feature of the car while it's still there WITH the tech. take a note pad and jot everything down for them to fix.

Yeap, definitely sounds like some noob swapped polarities on the battery when rehooking things up and blew up some stuff when doing it. Don't believe your soundsystem should poo, because it was a showroom car afterall. UNLESS...... the mechanics there decided to turn the dealership into a night club using the car's sound system on a regular basis..... LOL

mjg 08-10-2011 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11Thumper (Post 1253846)
Not trying to come off like a jerk. Seriously, I wouldn't accept that. A dealer should never add a condition to a test drive, period. You should never sign anything prior.

I'm in NY this week and would be happy to bash you (in a friendly way) over a beer. :D

I deserve it too...

Things took a turn for the worse today, when I found out this dealer had this part on back order (and wouldn't give me a time estimate, or better solution other then We'll let you know). That wasn't really what pissed me off, it was the fact that they scoffed at the idea of having a tech look over the car with me, just the sales kid (who didn't check if the headlights worked, or wasn't familiar with the packages on the car). They just don't have the time he said -- "we don't do that". Just like they don't do inspections on cars that leave the show room apparently.

I confronted them about the fact they still have no idea about what's wrong with the car, they had no answer for it, no excuse, and no real apology whatsoever.

This dealership is Legend Nissan. Avoid it at all costs. I've now heard a few personal horror stories with their dealings, and I didn't really want to make this thread about attacking them, but I've had it. Left a message with the owner of the dealership (no call returned), and the next step was a call to Nissan North America to open up a case

Just read about these slime balls:

Consumer complaints about Legend Nissan, Syosset

AlphaSnacks 08-10-2011 03:48 PM

What the hell? Legend? They're the best dealer I've ever dealt with. I bought my 350Z from them, and my 370Z. They gave me a great deal on my 350Z trade-in. They also gave my friends and family the lowest lease deals around. They're actually one of the highest rated Nissan dealers on dealerrater.com (4.7/5.0) when it comes to sales. They fired some of the managers from there and replaced them about 18 months ago. I'm reading the complaints you posted, and I know a lot of those guys don't work there anymore.

BUT...their service department does not have a good reputation and I am not surprised by their behavior.

Who did you deal with in sales? Have you tried them?

mjg 08-10-2011 06:38 PM

After this situation is handled, I'll put up a fresh complaint for you Arnold.

11Thumper 08-10-2011 09:27 PM

Best of luck sorting this out. It's covered under warranty so at least the cost of the repairs isn't your deal. Still sucks...

I'll have a toast to you at one of the many random pubs in Times Square tonight. Ok, maybe 7-8 toasts. :D

AlphaSnacks 08-10-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjg (Post 1255439)
After this situation is handled, I'll put up a fresh complaint for you Arnold.

I'm not doubting you, by the way. Sometimes it takes one bad apple. I'd like to know who you're dealing with. Send me a PM. Are you dealing with only service people? Or are you dealing with sales as well? I can try and help.

Footloose301 08-11-2011 01:27 PM

Sounds to me that their "battery issue" was the start of their mess up. The battery might have needed a jump since it was sitting in the showroom. Sounds like they tried to jump the car with the + and - reversed. You can do serious damage to a car.

My buddy tried jumping his car awhile back using his mother's car as the jumper. He connected them backwards and car wouldn't turn over. Well a minute or so went by and then I began to smell some burning and then lots of smoke coming from the dash. Needless to say, most of the electronics inside the car wouldn't work.

Connecting the cables correctly minutes later the car started right up.....

mjg 08-12-2011 08:28 PM

So magically, the part became available the next day after contacting nissan consumer affairs, and I have my car back. I was promised by the owner of the dealership I'm getting a 3 year extended warranty. I'd like to see it in writing of course, but that will hopefully happen on monday.

Things are looking better, appreciate everyone in this threads comments and advice. I drove around for 2 hours tonight, think I'm headed out again after I eat. Love driving this thing!

mrflip69 08-12-2011 10:07 PM

So I take it your headlights and audio are fixed? Hope you got a good deal for all your troubles!


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