Was looking to possibly buy a Shelby

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Front Rotors - $1492.74 (2)
Front Pad kit - $489.00
Rear Pad Kit - $405.00

Plus the transmission is expensive as well to have anything done with. It's not out of line for the car, but it is definitely pricey...and as IC said, the Z06 is comparatively very cheap to maintain.

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How is it BS? For the cost of ONE transmission fluid change in the GT-R, my Z06 is going to go 100K miles. (not counting oil-changes, which cost equivalent for the most).

The GT-R is more expensive to maintain than its domestic counterparts. Less expensive than its italian ones.

It's all relative.

Is it super expensive, given performance and initial price? No.

chuckd05

My buddies 09 m3 has been nothingmbut trouble for him. Rear end blew, clutch went, rattle in his dash, and his 3rd gear went. Sounds like a owner who thrashed his car but he really doesn't. He still loves it and after his lease is up in sept he's grabbing a DCT 12 with comp package. But everything was covered under warranty so who really cares. Hs most expensive expense was new ps2's or w/e their oem rubber is.

M3s steering wheel is WAY too fat tho, lmao

Also another thing wrong with his 6m m3 is it's slower than my 370z in a straight line :-)~

GTR brakes have new cheaper options now but the car is bezerk to upkeep but if you can REALLY afford the GTR you can afford the maintenance.

Oh and he's trading in lease early and getting 47k for his with 21k miles sport with diff ride modes navi carbon roof ... That means you can prob grab that car for 55k which would be a steal

M3 is a sick all around car tho. Minus the steering wheel. Lol.

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theDreamer

How much do you think a transmission fluid change is?

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http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...expensive.html

theDreamer

Was hoping you would quote that article, that is one of the most BS slated writing I have ever seen.
Labor is about 300-400 over (should be closer to 400-450 total), fluid is only $50 a quart, not sure who raped them on the 80+ charge there. Honestly, any person I talk to who owns a GT-R, which is a lot of guys, laugh whenever someone says it is expensive to maintain the car. The price for maintenance is exactly on par for what you get with the car. No, the car is not some older American V8 where I can buy parts from Auto Zone and get it running, so it is not going to have the same $45 oil change special.

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So what you're saying is...$400 labor + $400 for the ATF + the fluid/labor for the diff?

Other than brakes, nothing on the Z06 costs close to that to maintain. In fact, nothing NEEDS maintaining. Just change the oil when it's time on the DIC, and the brakes if/when they need it. That's it. Basically, I can get 75K miles worth of oil-changes for 1 transmission/diff change in a GT-R using YOUR prices. If you change your transmission fluid twice, it will cover also a new set of rotors/pads for the Z06, although they should only require turning unless you run the pads down to the rivets.

*Oh wait, the Z06 cabin-filter has a 24K mile service life, IIRC, or something similar. $40?-ish?

theDreamer

Wow...comparing a modern double clutch transmission to a standard 6 speed manual transmission. Again, the price you pay for maintenance is fair for the price of the car. Z06 is 65k level car and the GT-R is 90k.

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Well, how about the ZR1 then? It has beaten the GT-R in every performance category-- lap time, anything you want to talk about except for 0-60 times and magazine 1/4 mile times (stock OEM on OEM rubber they have run 10.70's@well over 130mph when driven by competent drivers familiar with the car).

Maintenance is the same as the Z06. Price is a touch higher than the GT-R by 5-10K depending on trim-level/discounts/promos.

My point stands, the GT-R is more expensive to maintain than a Viper, Z06, ZR1--It's domestic counterparts, in other words.

It is LESS expensive than it's Italian and some Euro counterparts.

It is not outlandishly expensive to maintain a GT-R, just MORE expensive.

theDreamer

Actually from what I have read and talked to a few guys (some of who own a GT-R & ZR-1), the ZR-1 is only a little cheaper per year early on and more expensive other years. So actually, the ZR-1 with overall maintenance is the same. You are picking out a single larger expense for the GT-R and trying to throw it all up in the air as some high exaggeration when in reality it is not that bad, even compared to the American top tier cars.

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The only way the ZR1 is going to cost that much is taking tires into account, in which case, yeah, it will cost you are absolutely right. 335 series rubber is not cheap.

I have owned my Z06 now for almost half a year and it has cost me...$165 in maintenance. That includes an oil-change I didn't technically need (585 miles I change oil), and a few cans of Clutch fluid as that will get dirty and I am OCD about changing it out every time I drive it (totally unwarranted, but hey, cheap insurance). Oh, and some washer-fluid I need to buy.

Z06 and ZR1 maintenance are identical from what I understand, except regarding maybe oil capacity or something. Not sure.

theDreamer

Brakes are different, tires are different, supercharger maintenance.
There are some solid differences that up the ZR-1 cost, not to a crazy level but on par with the GT-R over time.

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This right here is correct.
Not only that but you have to find someone willing to buy a car that has been worked on to this magnitude. Most modders like to oversee or do there own cars. Buying a FI'd vehicle from a complete stranger is an extremely high risk. So if you expect any kind of money for your mods. Part them out and sell them. Then bring your car back to stock.

RCZ

Sorry but Z06's feel so cheap to me. Everything inside is plastic. Not to mention that big V8 just destroys you in the gas department. Thats one of the biggest reasons I don't even want to consider the Z06. For a very similar price you can get a car that can do this :



I think that just about settles this dispute.

shadoquad

Not only that, but modders have their own unique tastes, so what I've modded in my car as the seller may not be what you the buyer would have done (performance or aesthetic-wise). Plus some people eschew mods altogether and just want a bone stock car.

So yeah, parting the car is the only way to get anything back, and returning to stock means an easier sale.