Was looking to possibly buy a Shelby

m4a1mustang · 07-27-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

NO kidding. I was pricing one, because it was cheaper than the Z06, but once I added on minor stuff, like the sport package (odd that M3 doesn't have it in base trim...) selective ride, and NAV (I'm not a NAV fan, but it's a BMW, it needs...). Long story short, "my" M3 came in at nearly $70K.

In all honesty it's still a great value if you are comparing it to a Porsche 911, though. A similarly equipped 911 would probably run you $105-115k.

shadoquad · 07-27-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

In all honesty it's still a great value if you are comparing it to a Porsche 911, though. A similarly equipped 911 would probably run you $105-115k.

"great value compared to a Porsche" is like a flu being "healthy compared to pneumonia".

Luxury Performance cars are just that, luxury. They're a waste of money, and that's what makes them great.

ImportConvert · 07-27-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamaica@UAMotorsports

M3 is over rated. Had it for 6 months before the accident. All ou pay for it the BMW name and a status.. Oh your drivin a m3. It's quick but the z is more fun to drive and doesn't cost as much to upgrade compare to the m

I would think the sedan would feel a lot less nimble than a sports car.

ImportConvert · 07-27-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

In all honesty it's still a great value if you are comparing it to a Porsche 911, though. A similarly equipped 911 would probably run you $105-115k.

People rant and rave about the 911, but in my experience they are nothing more than a 370Z with shitty weight distribution and a touch more power until you get into the TT and GT2/3 models, and those are FAR past the 100K mark.

RCZ · 07-27-2011, 03:15 PM

I've been looking around and its a very sad thing, but you can get a GT-R for about the same price as an M3 these days. That's a hands down win for the GT-R.

Whoever said something about the reliability and daily drivability of the M3 and 335...those two cars are the definition of GREAT daily drivers. Much more so than the GT-R, specially when you consider that BMW offers FREE maintenance, rotors, oil, brake pads, etc.

Porsche would be nice too, but you're looking at a pre-pdk cayman or an older Carrera for a similar price of -- you guessed it-- a GT-R. Problem with porsche is that you're buying a car out of warranty so if something breaks....well....there goes that trip to the bahamas you were planning.

kenchan · 07-27-2011, 03:19 PM

yah, i dont have time to be taking the car in for stupid repairs regardless of free maintenance. nothing's free btw, you just pay it upfront.

RCZ · 07-27-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

yah, i dont have time to be taking the car in for stupid repairs regardless of free maintenance. nothing's free btw, you just pay it upfront.

They are fairly reliable cars these days...makes more sense for the company to do that when they are offering free maintenance. Yeah the M3 is expensive, but you do get a lot of car for the money regardless, specially when you buy it slightly used. You end up paying mid 60s low 70s for an 80k car.

Red__Zed · 07-27-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

I've been looking around and its a very sad thing, but you can get a GT-R for about the same price as an M3 these days. That's a hands down win for gtr.

gtrs are closing in on 100k, and you can snag an m3 for 50k.

shadoquad · 07-27-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Whoever said something about the reliability and daily drivability of the M3 and 335...those two cars are the definition of GREAT daily drivers. Much more so than the GT-R, specially when you consider that BMW offers FREE maintenance, rotors, oil, brake pads, etc.

First, I have heard that the 335's TT setup is not very reliable. I don't have hard facts on that, and maybe it was addressed at some point, but I heard that motor takes a beating.

Secondly, BMW offers free maintenance for the life of the warranty, after which your wallet will asplode. Same with most German makes. You pay that up front. It's part of the premium. If you plan on owning after warranty, it's pricey. A member here sold his 911 for a Z because he was tired of paying maintenance and repair costs.

So, you gotta pay to play. If you've got the cheddar, then good for you.

shadoquad · 07-27-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

brand new gtrs are closing in on 100k, and you can snag a beat-up used m3 for 50k.

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kenchan · 07-27-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

They are fairly reliable cars these days...makes more sense for the company to do that when they are offering free maintenance. Yeah the M3 is expensive, but you do get a lot of car for the money regardless, specially when you buy it slightly used. You end up paying mid 60s low 70s for an 80k car.

hummmmm... okay cause when i had the MINI which is your poorman's BMW, it wasn't a reliable car at all. and the stories i hear from 335i coupe owners that i know, they keep having annoying little issues with their cars.

i want to reconsider getting the 135i coupe or even the 3-series after my G35C's done as my dd... so if they are getting their shitt together, that's good news for me.

otherwise im going to get the next gen G-coupe for sure.

anyway, back to talking shelby's.

Red__Zed · 07-27-2011, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

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You can get a new one for $50k. I have a quote from BMW of Charlottesville for $49.8k

shadoquad · 07-27-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

You can get a new one for $50k. I have a quote from BMW of Charlottesville for $49.8k

Bottom of the line, no trimmings, no options, etc, etc shut up yer poopoo

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Red__Zed · 07-27-2011, 03:35 PM

BMW maintenance is not nearly as bad as most people think it is. Just don't go to the dealer for non-warranty work.

They fixed the 335i engine issues as well.

Red__Zed · 07-27-2011, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Bottom of the line, no trimmings, no options, etc, etc shut up yer poopoo

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With the comp package, but I don't wan the other stuff.

The gtr costs twice as much, and is automatic.

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07-27-2011, 03:15 PM	#65 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	I've been looking around and its a very sad thing, but you can get a GT-R for about the same price as an M3 these days. That's a hands down win for the GT-R. Whoever said something about the reliability and daily drivability of the M3 and 335...those two cars are the definition of GREAT daily drivers. Much more so than the GT-R, specially when you consider that BMW offers FREE maintenance, rotors, oil, brake pads, etc. Porsche would be nice too, but you're looking at a pre-pdk cayman or an older Carrera for a similar price of -- you guessed it-- a GT-R. Problem with porsche is that you're buying a car out of warranty so if something breaks....well....there goes that trip to the bahamas you were planning.

07-27-2011, 03:19 PM	#66 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, i dont have time to be taking the car in for stupid repairs regardless of free maintenance. nothing's free btw, you just pay it upfront.

07-27-2011, 03:35 PM	#74 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	BMW maintenance is not nearly as bad as most people think it is. Just don't go to the dealer for non-warranty work. They fixed the 335i engine issues as well.