Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks No zero toe saves your tires. Too much toe was what I was talking about, some people (especially auto-x folk) run aggressive toe to improve steering
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I run 0 toe up front as well, wanting to go positive though. |
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I run 0 toe up front as well, wanting to go positive though. 0 toe should turn in better than the aggressive (negative) toe settings though...or are you referring to aggressive positive settings? |
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Yeah, zero toe should turn-in better than negative toe ( / \ ). Positive toe ( \ / ) will give you better turn in but don't be surprised if the car feels darty at speed.
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Well aggressive in either direction will kill tires.
Negative toe (toe-in) up front is used to reduce understeer and improve steering feel. The Z doesn't really need it. Just a hair of rear toe-in to keep the car stable. AWD cars and FWD cars usually run a crap load of toe-in with a bit of rear toe-out to get the car to rotate more easily. Front toe-out serves no useful purpose that I'm aware of (on our cars), although because things can change under compression it might help for mid-corner front grip for example.
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I don't have to worry about rear anything.
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Yep you're right, I'm always getting my negative's and positive's messed up. Fortunately I never make that mistake when doing electrical
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I run 15mm rear spacers to push the wheels out a little.
Front -3 camber 0 toe Rear -2.5 camber .1 toe
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What set-up do you guys think would be best for a DD Z that may be going to a track eventually? I have the base 18" wheels and am eventually going with 245's front and maybe 275's in the rear (currently at stock 225F/245R). Need to get my alignment fixed soon so this would be the perfect time to do it. Thanks
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Yeah but they're not track tires anyway, just all season. Doubt I will be doing some tracking anytime soon, but I do plan on it eventually. Till then it will be just spirited driving on some curvy roads and maybe AutoX at the most.
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factory spec alignment is best for you blades.
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It would be nice to push the front camber just a little for a more aggressive street performance (around -1.2) but sadly there is no way to do it without replacement upper control arms. High speed auto-x is great if you can find it locally, helps you learn what the car will do at the limit and makes you more prepared for the track when you get there.
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