Oil Temp Survey

sonic370

Nissan knew about the oil temp issue.
That is the main reason they put a oil temp gauge in the car.
But i do agree with one poster if it wasn't there no one
would be so worked up over it. i'd rather have a better coolant
temp gauge than the cheap one we have now to me that is
more important.

Zsteve

until the oil catches fire, its all good.

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ChrisSlicks

Yup. The flashpoint of clean oil is over 400F so I think you're safe. Contaminated (old) oil drops to around 300F.

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mannyz

Im sorry keno but I have to ask. Did u order your car online that you couldn't check or ask that? I don't think it comes with oil cooler. Nissan made it clear that is an option item.

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kenoverbey

I work for Nissan in Smyrna Tn and got one through a discounted lease. It was spur of the moment so I didn't study on it. It was a simple question that I didn't see an answer to looking through here

travisjb

Yeah, didn't mean to pile on and no need for an apology - issue comes up a lot on this board and we don't want our fellow Z owners to be taken advantage of... suggest you take the time to read this: Magnuson?Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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FERRARI

But which side of the argument is the Burden of Proof on?

mannyz

This is the way it work. And I will use the oil cooler as example but it can be any aftermarket part.

1. You go and purchase any oil cooler (professionally manufactured and tested) and install it on your car.
a. You take your car for oil change and the manager tell you, that your whole car is out of warranty because of the oil cooler. That is a BIG NO. They can't do that.

b. You get a Check Engine. They tell you they can't check the car until you remove the oil cooler cause that will void your warranty. BIG NO. THey Can't do that.

c. Your Radio, or GPS, or your AC goes bad. They use the oil cooler as excuse to charge you more when that is covered under warranty. BIG NO.

2. The dealer need to follow the recommended steps before making any desicion. So to answer your question who has the burden of proof.

You purchase the Oil Cooler from Nissan or from Stillen. Both are proof to improve one way or another the oil temperature (not fix it). They are both professionaly manufactured and tested. You take your car to the dealer because you have a check engine light. The dealer has to take your car like any other regular nissan for check. They connect the computer and they need to perform all the check necesary to identify why the CEL is on. Let's Say the CEL is becuase you are mixfiring or another type of failure. And the dealer come back to you and tell you. The problem is the oil Cooler you installed. Is not covered under warranty so is $1,200. At that point you have the right to request the analisys they did and how they reach to that conclusion. With the paperwork, you call the manufacturer of the oil cooler, and you explain that their item cause a problem. They definetively will say No Way. Then you ask the manufacturer that they need to put in writing why they are claiming their product is not their problem.

Sadly this is a back and forward calls and paperwork, you also have to search online, ask here for opinion. After you have all the necesary documentation that either is or no the oil cooler then you go agains the one that is wrong and have it fix. Is a tedious process, I've been trough that with my Eclipse 4G. But at the end you will find out that the dealer don't have a clue what the Magnuson Law is and 90% of the time they are wrong and they just want any excuse to void your warranty and charge you full price.

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FERRARI

Thank you very much for that information..... +1

mannyz

Your welcome

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worldfamousz

Just a point of interest, you MAY want to post this same survey up on the G37 forums, they have been reporting the SAME issues as 370Z owners regarding oil temps...
That would only strengthen the argument for NNA to do something about this.

mannyz

Sorry Anthony but this Oil Temp topic has been addressed to Nissan and they already replied with their answer, they won't do anything. I know someone posted their letter here in the forum but in a summary Nissan said that, they decided not to include the Oil Cooler to have the car with a competitive price. The installation of the cooler would have put the price of the way out of hand of normal people that want to drive their car as regular cars and not racing. That is why they decided to have the ECU protection system "limb mode" on the car to protect the engine. But for those enthusiast that are planning to use the car for racing, Nissan has their own Oil Cooler and they give their part number.

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370fan

From what I can see not a SINGLE person has had an engine fail due to these supposed "high" oil temperatures. The only reason this whole thread exists is just straight up ignorance. How many of you guys on here bitching about the "high temps" have EVER had an oil temp gauge in another car? How do you know that 240* is too high? What does your wife's minivan run at? NEWS FLASH!!! It's probably the freakin same!!!

Nissan didn't put the gauge in the car because they "knew it was a problem" That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard.. almost. If they knew that was a problem, the LAST thing they'd do is put a gauge that shows every person with internet access that there's a problem. What Nissan did do was give themselves a giant headache by putting that temp gauge in there so you guys could bitch about high engine temps. If the coolant temp isn't getting too higih, then it's probably not overtemp. I bet if there were a tranny or diff temp gauge in there, you'd bitch about those temps being too high as well. Maybe some EGT gauges scattered about would be better?

travisjb

does a survey = bitching?

your note is not very constructive... this thread is about collecting data... the data covers driving conditions and temperatures... there have been some that have experienced 'limp home mode' as a result of high temperatures... that is a very different situation than running at 240f or even 270f... limp mode kicks in beyond those temps

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370fan

I understand the point of the survey, but if you look through the last several pages, it's filled mostly with bitching, not information sharing.

Sorry if I contributed to further trashing this thread. All apologies.