370Z Takes on Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

sonic370 · 06-29-2011, 09:31 PM

You've done your homework and you sound well informed. So imho the choice
boils down to what you feel in your gut. I can only go by my experience.

IMHO again the 370 in it's class range has no equals. The cars are rare and you will stand out in a crowd,though thats not why i bought mine...

It's hard to explain but the 370 is to nissan what the corvette is to Chevrolet.
Tradition and History... In fact the vette is the only car i would trade my 370 in for.

Duplicity807 · 06-29-2011, 09:49 PM

Lol I'd take a 370Z any day, or even a 07-08 350Z Grand Touring 6MT loaded up. I've driven the Genesis coupe few months back. The Genesis Coupe wasn't very appealing to drive and simply lacked the wow factor. I've seen tons of Genesis where I live and most of them don't even sport the Hyundai badge and replaced it with the Genesis badge, almost as if they were ashamed of their purchase.

Plus where I live, there are tons of Genesis Coupes and hardly any 370Zs. If I am lucky, I may see 1 or 2 370Zs per week. Another benefit for getting the Z is you'll have a car not everyone and their mothers have.

You obviously seem to care about what car you would want to get since you even bothered posting on forums about the 2 cars. I mean it is your hard earned money. Go get something you can be proud of and stands out from the crowd. Otherwise, just go buy a lame family car that you can find a good deal on. If you still can't decide, then go test drive both cars again. And this is a Z forum so peoples' opinions will be biased.

bluenoser · 06-29-2011, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandCWRU

A very valid point. The car is likely to see action in the winter, and I've priced extra wheels with winter tires for both. I actually live just south of the snow belt, so the snow isn't too terrible. And the crews manage to do a decent job clearing the roads most of the time, thankfully. Around here a sure sign the weather is too bad for driving (except emergencies) is when they can't keep even the streets clear.

Driving in snow isn't terrible, just have to have the right tires and be careful. 4WD, RWD, FWD, AWD, if you drive careful and are aware of road conditions you will be fine. I probably see more people with 4WD/AWD getting themselves in trouble in winter because of overconfidence, forgetting that only helps them get the car moving but does little to nothing when it comes to steering/stopping.

I've driven enough in snow that I'd be fine with either one once I get the proper tires mounted.

You're right, you can safely drive a RWD car in the snow with correct tires and all. However, if that had been a factor for me I wouldn't have even considered the Z or the Hyundai. I've driven in snow a lot and I just can't see how the Z would be fun in those conditions. I guess driving in snow is not supposed to be fun but a low, powerful, RWD sports car will likely make the experience a little more unpleasant even with good studded winter tires.

What about an Evo or STi? Even the regular WRX is good fun and much cheaper. It's sort of hard to compare those to the Z and Genesis Coupe I know. Not that they're better or worse, just very different cars. Personally, I find the STi a bit ugly but the performance is there. The interior is pretty cheap looking in all of those choices though. I think the Evo comes in a trim without the giant boy-racer rear wing too if that's a concern. I agree, AWD is not a substitute for sensible winter driving, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

happytheman · 06-30-2011, 12:50 AM

Ok..I have finally read through all of the posts and now will commence to comment.

I too was looking at the Gen Coupe in addition to the Z. I test drove the 3.8 GC Track, but found the fit and finish (as well as the general quality of the interior) to be somewhat disappointing. I also found the transmission to be somewhat notchy and in need of being pushed a bit harder before it was really fun. Yes, the cabin noise is somewhat quieter than the Z..but so what, it's a sports car. While you do get a lot for your money with the Gen Coupe and they have truly improved in leaps and bounds from the early 90's Excel fiasco, the transmission really worried me. Hyundai owners are finding it necessary to get them replaced with alarming regularity. This was enough to dissuade me from looking further.

In the end I preferred the styling, fit and finish of the Z. The transmission is strong and I have no concerns about whether it is reliable enough to make it 100k miles.

Good luck with your decision.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-30-2011, 01:15 AM

I would say buy the Z to help boost sales but... honestly, you seem to be a gencoupe man. Your sporting intentions are practically nill. As a matter of fact sport packages on either is a serious waste of cash. You can have a smoother ride that would be more compliant to your lack of an aggressive driving style. If I were you i'd look into the genesis coupe grand touring 3.8 or 2.0 premium if you really want to get a great bargain. If you want a little flash and class to your style try a certified G37 with premium package. I highly recommend test driving that car as well.
It just seems like after a few months of driving the Z and the kool factor has worn down some. You will look at how impractical a 2 seater would be compared to a gt. Remember. The Z has only 6.9cu ft of angled trunk. The gen gives you a 10cu ft box trunk and the rear seats so there's ample storage. Someone who isn't aggressive in his driving should truly consider practicality as part of the whole package
If you were a performance nut. I would say go with the Z. But you aren't so the Z is near pointless.

dad · 06-30-2011, 01:27 AM

ClevelandCWRU , very good descriptive write up! Welcome to the forum.

happytheman · 06-30-2011, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dad

ClevelandCWRU , very good descriptive write up! Welcome to the forum.

it shows that you really put some thought into your question, and I certainly appreciate that. It's so much better than a number of the first posters that create a new thread and say such nonsense like:

"I think the Mustang is so much better than the Z in every way. Let the flaming begin."

Your post was to the point, well organized and eloquent.

Welcome to the community. i hope you purchase a Z so you can continue to provide support for what I believe to be an awesome car.

hansoac · 06-30-2011, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happytheman

it shows that you really put some thought into your question, and I certainly appreciate that. It's so much better than a number of the first posters that create a new thread and say such nonsense like:

"I think the Mustang is so much better than the Z in every way. Let the flaming begin."

Your post was to the point, well organized and eloquent.

Welcome to the community. i hope you purchase a Z so you can continue to provide support for what I believe to be an awesome car.

sonic370 · 06-30-2011, 09:08 AM

Mustang vs 370 come on now that's a total different animal.

But a Hyundai,is aHyundai and always will be..They have come a long way.

But no one on here has mentioned so has the Z cars. I'm not a hater it just
sounds like something you might mow your grass with.

ProfessorDave · 06-30-2011, 09:35 AM

I think this is the first thread where someone was kenchan'd, and then kenchan'd him back. Followed by a string of kenchan's. This should be stickied!

OK, back on track: OP, I was somewhat in your shoes several years ago when I was ready to re-enter the sports car market after a truck phase. The 350Z had just come out, and I loved the styling and performance. But I still had 2 kids to tote around, so I bought an RX-8. If I were in that situation today, the Genesis Coupe would definitely be on my list.

I would argue that while similar in some ways (RWD, price, etc.) the Z is really a different animal simply because it is a true sports car. But there is nothing wrong with getting a sporty car instead. And is Hyundai's warranty still crazy long? That would get my attention.

As an aside, the most reliable car in my household is the 2005 Hyundai Elantra my son drives. Bought it from a friend and know the service record. Other than scheduled maintenance, it only has required plug wires. Komapseumnida!

Pelican170 · 06-30-2011, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

For its price range, I'd rather get the new BMW 1M as you get bits of better of everything, except the maintenance cost.

Unfortunately, like everyone said, my personality would more likely make me buy a Boss Mustang for the price...and I'm Asian. =P

Yea but its like at least $10,000 more...

FromG2Z · 06-30-2011, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProfessorDave

I think this is the first thread where someone was kenchan'd, and then kenchan'd him back. Followed by a string of kenchan's. This should be stickied!

Now that's some funny stuff.

kenchan · 06-30-2011, 11:27 AM

yah, i spent waaaay too much time on this tread.

lol

Methodical4u · 06-30-2011, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370

You've done your homework and you sound well informed. So imho the choice
boils down to what you feel in your gut. I can only go by my experience.

IMHO again the 370 in it's class range has no equals. The cars are rare and you will stand out in a crowd,though thats not why i bought mine...

It's hard to explain but the 370 is to nissan what the corvette is to Chevrolet.
Tradition and History... In fact the vette is the only car i would trade my 370 in for.

especially your blue... they couldn't find a single one at my dealer when I was looking for Z's, the white was a very close second choice though so I was ok with it.

Methodical4u · 06-30-2011, 04:21 PM

OP, one thing that has been mentioned by myself and others is what I consider a "special car" the Z is one of those, always has been and always will be. The Evo, is a special car, the STI, GTR, Corvette, special edition type mustangs (I don't consider all V8's to be that, but some may), the GT-R... etc etc. The thing is however that with some of these cars, there are still A LOT of them... the Z there isn't so much. I don't know what the numbers are, but you can ask certain dealers and they will tell you how many that are here. I remember my first Evo was an RS which is the stripped down model with crank windows and door locks. The sucky part is that I found out for my year there were only like 350 or so of these cars nationwide. It would have held it's value greatly.. but oh well.. I wanted something better than a 2 star side impact rating (which is why you saw no 2007 model)

Anyway, again if you think you might sell the car in a few years, you'll lose a lot less on the Z than on the GC.

Just wanted to add that... I feel comfortable in saying come on and join us!

06-30-2011, 12:50 AM	#64 (permalink)
happytheman A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 10,737 Drives: MB 6M Tour/Sport Z34 Rep Power: 1822	Ok..I have finally read through all of the posts and now will commence to comment. I too was looking at the Gen Coupe in addition to the Z. I test drove the 3.8 GC Track, but found the fit and finish (as well as the general quality of the interior) to be somewhat disappointing. I also found the transmission to be somewhat notchy and in need of being pushed a bit harder before it was really fun. Yes, the cabin noise is somewhat quieter than the Z..but so what, it's a sports car. While you do get a lot for your money with the Gen Coupe and they have truly improved in leaps and bounds from the early 90's Excel fiasco, the transmission really worried me. Hyundai owners are finding it necessary to get them replaced with alarming regularity. This was enough to dissuade me from looking further. In the end I preferred the styling, fit and finish of the Z. The transmission is strong and I have no concerns about whether it is reliable enough to make it 100k miles. Good luck with your decision. __________________ --Brantly-- *PowderCoating by Mike/Stillen/PWJDM/Shine Auto/NST* GTR/Michelin /Fast Intentions/Evo-R/Mobil 1/Motul/Z1 https://facebook.com/CentralFloridaZClub

06-30-2011, 01:27 AM	#66 (permalink)
dad Grand Prix of Endurance Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 3,476 Drives: Mulsanne Straight Rep Power: 26	ClevelandCWRU , very good descriptive write up! Welcome to the forum. __________________ We can do without any article of luxury we have never had; but once obtained, it is not in human nature to surrender it voluntary.

06-30-2011, 09:35 AM	#70 (permalink)
ProfessorDave A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scranton, PA Posts: 1,580 Drives: In the fairway Rep Power: 19	I think this is the first thread where someone was kenchan'd, and then kenchan'd him back. Followed by a string of kenchan's. This should be stickied! OK, back on track: OP, I was somewhat in your shoes several years ago when I was ready to re-enter the sports car market after a truck phase. The 350Z had just come out, and I loved the styling and performance. But I still had 2 kids to tote around, so I bought an RX-8. If I were in that situation today, the Genesis Coupe would definitely be on my list. I would argue that while similar in some ways (RWD, price, etc.) the Z is really a different animal simply because it is a true sports car. But there is nothing wrong with getting a sporty car instead. And is Hyundai's warranty still crazy long? That would get my attention. As an aside, the most reliable car in my household is the 2005 Hyundai Elantra my son drives. Bought it from a friend and know the service record. Other than scheduled maintenance, it only has required plug wires. Komapseumnida! __________________ Rain, snow, sleet, hail: 2009 Mazda 3 sGT HB Everything else: 2009 370z, PW Touring 6MT

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06-29-2011, 09:31 PM	#61 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	You've done your homework and you sound well informed. So imho the choice boils down to what you feel in your gut. I can only go by my experience. IMHO again the 370 in it's class range has no equals. The cars are rare and you will stand out in a crowd,though thats not why i bought mine... It's hard to explain but the 370 is to nissan what the corvette is to Chevrolet. Tradition and History... In fact the vette is the only car i would trade my 370 in for.

06-29-2011, 09:49 PM	#62 (permalink)
Duplicity807 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 53 Drives: Rocket Rep Power: 15	Lol I'd take a 370Z any day, or even a 07-08 350Z Grand Touring 6MT loaded up. I've driven the Genesis coupe few months back. The Genesis Coupe wasn't very appealing to drive and simply lacked the wow factor. I've seen tons of Genesis where I live and most of them don't even sport the Hyundai badge and replaced it with the Genesis badge, almost as if they were ashamed of their purchase. Plus where I live, there are tons of Genesis Coupes and hardly any 370Zs. If I am lucky, I may see 1 or 2 370Zs per week. Another benefit for getting the Z is you'll have a car not everyone and their mothers have. You obviously seem to care about what car you would want to get since you even bothered posting on forums about the 2 cars. I mean it is your hard earned money. Go get something you can be proud of and stands out from the crowd. Otherwise, just go buy a lame family car that you can find a good deal on. If you still can't decide, then go test drive both cars again. And this is a Z forum so peoples' opinions will be biased.

06-30-2011, 01:15 AM	#65 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	I would say buy the Z to help boost sales but... honestly, you seem to be a gencoupe man. Your sporting intentions are practically nill. As a matter of fact sport packages on either is a serious waste of cash. You can have a smoother ride that would be more compliant to your lack of an aggressive driving style. If I were you i'd look into the genesis coupe grand touring 3.8 or 2.0 premium if you really want to get a great bargain. If you want a little flash and class to your style try a certified G37 with premium package. I highly recommend test driving that car as well. It just seems like after a few months of driving the Z and the kool factor has worn down some. You will look at how impractical a 2 seater would be compared to a gt. Remember. The Z has only 6.9cu ft of angled trunk. The gen gives you a 10cu ft box trunk and the rear seats so there's ample storage. Someone who isn't aggressive in his driving should truly consider practicality as part of the whole package If you were a performance nut. I would say go with the Z. But you aren't so the Z is near pointless.

06-30-2011, 09:08 AM	#69 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	Mustang vs 370 come on now that's a total different animal. But a Hyundai,is aHyundai and always will be..They have come a long way. But no one on here has mentioned so has the Z cars. I'm not a hater it just sounds like something you might mow your grass with.

06-30-2011, 11:27 AM	#73 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, i spent waaaay too much time on this tread. lol

06-30-2011, 04:21 PM	#75 (permalink)
Methodical4u A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,393 Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp Rep Power: 16	OP, one thing that has been mentioned by myself and others is what I consider a "special car" the Z is one of those, always has been and always will be. The Evo, is a special car, the STI, GTR, Corvette, special edition type mustangs (I don't consider all V8's to be that, but some may), the GT-R... etc etc. The thing is however that with some of these cars, there are still A LOT of them... the Z there isn't so much. I don't know what the numbers are, but you can ask certain dealers and they will tell you how many that are here. I remember my first Evo was an RS which is the stripped down model with crank windows and door locks. The sucky part is that I found out for my year there were only like 350 or so of these cars nationwide. It would have held it's value greatly.. but oh well.. I wanted something better than a 2 star side impact rating (which is why you saw no 2007 model) Anyway, again if you think you might sell the car in a few years, you'll lose a lot less on the Z than on the GC. Just wanted to add that... I feel comfortable in saying come on and join us!