370Z Takes on Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

ClevelandCWRU · 06-29-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 9Zs_Ed

Have you weighed each car's ability of dealing with snow (Cleveland snow), or do you have another vehicle to cover you those 8 months of the year?

A very valid point. The car is likely to see action in the winter, and I've priced extra wheels with winter tires for both. I actually live just south of the snow belt, so the snow isn't too terrible. And the crews manage to do a decent job clearing the roads most of the time, thankfully. Around here a sure sign the weather is too bad for driving (except emergencies) is when they can't keep even the streets clear.

Driving in snow isn't terrible, just have to have the right tires and be careful. 4WD, RWD, FWD, AWD, if you drive careful and are aware of road conditions you will be fine. I probably see more people with 4WD/AWD getting themselves in trouble in winter because of overconfidence, forgetting that only helps them get the car moving but does little to nothing when it comes to steering/stopping.

I've driven enough in snow that I'd be fine with either one once I get the proper tires mounted.

FromG2Z · 06-29-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

np, op, just putting out the truth. can't handle it? there's no enthusiasm owning a hyundai (atleast not yet) other than if you got korean pride. there's absolutely nothing wrong with that! hell if i was korean i would get the gensis coupe just because it's the first 'cool' car they came out with for the US market.

but you will end up always having to explain to yourself and your friends and neighbors, etc. why you got the genesis couple. spill out the magazine spec-racer in you.

and i suppose for a 'smart shopper' aka walmart shopper that makes sense.
you get more for the money...even 2 extra seats in the back!

again nothing wrong with that since one cant tell the difference.

btw, i am not saying hyundai's are crap cars, i am saying that there's no real carguy fun i can see owning a genesis coupe. to me gensis is like a corolla-s when kids really wanted to get the CivicSI but parent's wouldn't let them.

you post a new thread on the forums expect to get a variety of replies.

yah, truth hurts i know.

Wow ken.... I think you got kenchan'd....

Alright alright... kidding aside, OP, you need to take it easy. This is a public forum, and a Z forum at that. Folks here will have an opinion (most likely favorable) towards our Z's. But it is just that, an OPINION. So no need to get all hissy about that. You posted a question on the forum asking which car we think is better. Folks don't really have to justify their answers to you or anyone else. Take their opinions for what they're worth. If you don't like it, don't listen to it... simple as that. There's a lot of respectable folks on this forum, ken included. I guess he just feels strongly against Hyundai's

no problem with that.

For example, if someone asked me to which I like better, the Z or a Mustang or a Vette, I can say the Z, because of several concrete reasons, or I can just say, I like it better. Period. Why? Doesn't even have to be a valid reason. I just like it better... just "feels" better to me. That's not a quantifiable reason right? But in the end, it's MY reason, and I gave it to answer a question.

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Originally Posted by DarkJak

Until yesterday, I was stuck with the same decision, Z or Gencoupe. Coincidentally, it was also the Touring+Sport vs the 3.8 Track trims.

To me, the Genesis was like a baby G37, just a bit diluted in both performance and luxury.
On the other hand, the Z was a more raw and visceral ride. However, I don't think the extra 10% of performance would be missed much if you get the genesis instead of the z, both cars are capable enough be incredibly fun during hard driving.

That is EXACTLY how I felt about the Genesis coupe after driving it, compared to the Z. It felt so generic.... hard to explain. The driver connection to the car and to the road was absent. Does anyone else know what I mean? In the Z (and I'm sure in other well built cars like BMW, etc), I really felt connected to the car..... by the steering wheel, the sound, the feel of the road on my bottom, etc.... everything. Maybe it's just me

kenchan · 06-29-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Wow ken.... I think you got kenchan'd....

yah, i tend to confuse myself at times but this thread my head is very clear.

and no i dont hate hyundai's, i will probably never own one but that doesn't mean i have any hate for them. their offerings just does not target me.

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

That is EXACTLY how I felt about the Genesis coupe after driving it, compared to the Z. It felt so generic.... hard to explain. The driver connection to the car and to the road was absent. Does anyone else know what I mean? In the Z (and I'm sure in other well built cars like BMW, etc), I really felt connected to the car..... by the steering wheel, the sound, the feel of the road on my bottom, etc.... everything. Maybe it's just me

it's made for the very general public. people that aren't true car enthusiats but want something cool and sporty. nothing wrong with hyundai's design or marketing style for their genesis coupe. it's just not at the level of commitment as a sports car, that's all. and i dont think they ever intended the car to be.

bluenoser · 06-29-2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandCWRU

A very valid point. The car is likely to see action in the winter, and I've priced extra wheels with winter tires for both. I actually live just south of the snow belt, so the snow isn't too terrible. And the crews manage to do a decent job clearing the roads most of the time, thankfully. Around here a sure sign the weather is too bad for driving (except emergencies) is when they can't keep even the streets clear.

Driving in snow isn't terrible, just have to have the right tires and be careful. 4WD, RWD, FWD, AWD, if you drive careful and are aware of road conditions you will be fine. I probably see more people with 4WD/AWD getting themselves in trouble in winter because of overconfidence, forgetting that only helps them get the car moving but does little to nothing when it comes to steering/stopping.

I've driven enough in snow that I'd be fine with either one once I get the proper tires mounted.

You're right, you can safely drive a RWD car in the snow with correct tires and all. However, if that had been a factor for me I wouldn't have even considered the Z or the Hyundai. I've driven in snow a lot and I just can't see how the Z would be fun in those conditions. I guess driving in snow is not supposed to be fun but a low, powerful, RWD sports car will likely make the experience a little more unpleasant even with good studded winter tires.

What about an Evo or STi? Even the regular WRX is good fun and much cheaper. It's sort of hard to compare those to the Z and Genesis Coupe I know. Not that they're better or worse, just very different cars. Personally, I find the STi a bit ugly but the performance is there. The interior is pretty cheap looking in all of those choices though. I think the Evo comes in a trim without the giant boy-racer rear wing too if that's a concern. I agree, AWD is not a substitute for sensible winter driving, but it certainly doesn't hurt.

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