370Z Takes on Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track

DarkJak

Until yesterday, I was stuck with the same decision, Z or Gencoupe. Coincidentally, it was also the Touring+Sport vs the 3.8 Track trims.

To me, the Genesis was like a baby G37, just a bit diluted in both performance and luxury.
On the other hand, the Z was a more raw and visceral ride. However, I don't think the extra 10% of performance would be missed much if you get the genesis instead of the z, both cars are capable enough be incredibly fun during hard driving.

EYE ESS

The Hyundai looks good on paper...but feels like crap in real life.

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ClevelandCWRU

How so? Can you elaborate? I did not find this to be the case after driving them both.

TypeOne

I thought very seriously about buying a Gen Coupe... and am still intrigued as to the revision or facelift which is upcoming.

For me, I felt like the Z was a truer sports car. That is what I wanted. I wanted the heritage, quality and performance of a Nissan Z car. That is something the Gen Coupe can't put out...even if they fill it with little tech accessories.

I drove both cars in the same day and which the Gen Coupe had "leather and brembos" didn't really change the fact that it was still a Hyundai and it was the FIRST model/year version of that chassis.

If you want something sporty, affordable and "ok" looking... get the Gen Coupe. If you want something that preforms better and has the heritage of a Z car, get the 370.

Call me biased, but I feel the Z looks better and is higher quality in just about every area. I would take my Base + Sport over a loaded 3.8 Track any day of the week.

FromG2Z

^ OP, the statement above is again, an opinion. He claims the Z is better looking. Again, no way to quantify that. And FWIW, that's how I feel too... lol... Z = much better looking.

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ClevelandCWRU

I also give the styling nod to the 370Z, see my original post.

And that's exactly what I'm looking for, someone who considered both that can tell me why they prefer one over the other. Maybe this sounds totally crazy, but to me there's a huge gap in quality between a post that shares an experience, actually compares the two and draws a conclusion versus an insulting post that implies that anyone who would even consider a Genesis Coupe (or shops at Wal-Mart for that matter) is a low-class, low-intelligence person who can't differentiate between products of varying origins (especially Asian). Give me a break. I know he's just "trolling" as the internet folks call it, I shouldn't have taken the bait and responded.

I'm aware it's a Z forum, but I think it's fair to expect sound advice, which I've gotten an abundance of here already (and keep it coming!). I've gotten the same in the thread where I posted the same question on the GC forum.

To the posters who have given useful opinions and comparisons (the vast majority of folks), thank you, you've been a big help. Sorry I got off track...

As it stands now, I'm starting to lean towards the 370Z, chiefly for its powertrain. I own several VQ powered cars and love the engine series. I'm a little disappointed that the once signature smoothness is nowhere to be found in the 3.7L. You could blame it on the type of car, but the engine is the same way in the G & M too, and all VQ's have been losing that buttery-smooth torque delivery as displacement and power increased. A testament to Nissan's craftsmanship and engine design, at 224K miles, the VQ in my Maxima is to this day the absolute smoothest V6 I've ever driven.

Overall, still a tough call for me. It may come down to dealer experience. I'd have to order either one, no dealer close by has one in the color combo's I want.

daisuke149

if you do chose 370z and want a smooth experience look up some of the dealer sponsors on this site. They are known to have good dealings.

kenchan

we have to give Hyundai reps for doing a great job with marketing!

hey OP - you will one day learn that wat i posted was not there to insult you (hell, if i wanted to insult you it will be much more direct), rather to help you understand what the real world sees... and how hyundai is focusing on people like you to actually in my term 'confuse' you to possibly make the decision for their benefit. they really got into your brain well and for that we need to give them a

GL with your decision watever it is!

ClevelandCWRU

Honestly, the way the car is marketed had initially turned me off from even considering it. While doing the auto show circuit in NA, I had checked them out. I was unimpressed for 2 years. With the general trend in the auto shows of companies putting more basic models on the floor that represent what customers actually buy, turns out I had only been in the basic trimmed, 4-cyl. models. I thought they felt cheap and hated them.

For 2 years I kind of made fun of the GC actually. A couple months ago I was helping a friend car shop, and noticed one on the used lot where he was shopping. On a whim, I decided to take it for a spin. It was a well-trimmed V6, and after driving it let's just say it served up a nice big piece of humble pie for me.

Let me ask you this: Have you driven a 3.8 Track? See what it's like if you haven't, preferably a 2011 rather than the 2010. It probably won't change your mind about owning one, as you are very opinionated on the matter. But it might help you see it's a solid and capable sports coupe. The naming is stupid, don't expect it be a track car. It's really like a touring model with a sport package rather than a stripped out track-ready special...that would be the R-Spec.

It's no threat to the Z's market position as it stands now, and I agree with you that for the most part they target two different demographics. The overlap is very little, even smaller when put in perspective with the tiny production numbers of both. Next generation, all bets are off. Hyundai has too broad of a target now with its coupe, it needs to focus on one area really. With the Veloster hitting the market soon, I wouldn't be surprised if in the future Hyundai positions the Genesis Coupe as a more serious sporting machine, letting the Veloster take over much of the market that the 2.0T may have served.

kenchan

ive not made fun of the genesis coupe directly. i think it's a great compromise to something like a G35C/G37C for people that might be looking for something sporty but doesn't make economic sense for them. this is where my comments about the walmart shopper comes in. i wanted the G, i got the G. if i wanted a M3, i would get the M3, although that will take a considerable more chunk of change from my allowance but if i wanted it that bad i would get one.

that said, and my previous posts, i do not fit in hyundai's demographics and have not driven the genesis coupe because i am not interested in getting one, cause gen-coupes to me is nothing but a copy of the G35C and 350Z and putting some hyundai goodness into one which i dont care for. and that's okay because they weren't targeting folks like me.

i never even thought of buying a hyundai so from that point you and i are different demographics. as you said, there might be a slight over lap in demographics but to compare the genesis coupe to the 370Z to me is like comparing apples to oranges. since you compared the two that says to me you consider these two cars similar... thus reinforcing my smart-shopper remark. it wasnt to really to offend, i just stereotyped you as one more in a playful manner but you originally took it offensively i guess.

even my G35C is a completely different car to my 370Z and it's both made by the same people. why would i have both cars if they were similar, right? would be a waste of money.

i suppose a valid comparison would be a used G35C vs the gen-coupe. that would be a good comparison, i think as G35C's are already phased out. i just happen to have mine still cause i still luv the car and im the original owner.

DJ-of-E

And if you post this on the Hyundai forums, we most likely get the same answers, plus things against the 370z.

At most what Genesis owners are going to say, they just like their cars and we like ours. And I respect our opinions. I mean, what better way to show our appreciation of car than to choose what we like without being crucified. Last thing I want to see is everyone owning a Toyota Camry circa 1990s.

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kenchan

a car of choice needs to make sense for the owner (or lessee). even if you drove 2 cars back to back and reviewed it, it's still just an opinion based on one's background.

but the truth of the matter is, these are 2 very different cars targeted at 2 different demographics. i just happen to fit in the 370Z demographics more so than a genesis coupe.

i'd get a new G37C over a genesis coupe if something happened to my G35C as it's non replacable. if something happened to my Z i'd get another Z. i wont be looking anywhere at a hyundai catalog that's for sure.

ClevelandCWRU

See, this makes a lot more sense to me than any of your other posts. Fair enough, and thanks for the change in tone. I probably fit the demographics for a typical G37 buyer more than the other two, but it's not quite what I want. It was on my initial list of cars, but I moved on for a couple of reasons:

1) Dealer is just too far away. An hour+ is a long drive for routine service and hell of a tow bill. Already played that game with an awd FX35, not willing to again.
2) I really liked the car's appearance (and the G35's even more) but was a touch disappointed driving it. Thought the GC 3.8 Track was a more engaging drive, and the 370Z even better still. I was also put off by its ride quality for the type of car it is.

It's a very nice car, but not for me.

kenchan

hummmmm... i didnt change my tone at all, this is how i post all the time including the first post and all the other posts. wat im saying is take a step back and take a close look at what you are about to do and make sure you want to buy what you really want.

cause typically a car enthusiast would NOT be looking at a gen-coupe to begin with. GL!

Montez

Well Nissan dealers will do your basic services on the G37, have had my wifes G35 oil changed and a few other things done there for the reason you mentioned distance to dealership. Now for Warranty stuff you would have to take it to the Infiniti dealership.