Son's newly bought 09 370Z 6MT

Brazilbro · 07-04-2011, 12:53 AM

buddahson · 07-04-2011, 12:59 AM

I've not read all of this thread so sorry if this has already been said, but experience is a big factor in owning a sports car, especially an expensive one. I'm talking about the experience that can only be gained through years of driving. When you know the dumb bitch 50 yards down the road is going to pull out in front of you. Or the guy talking on his cell next to you is going to try and merge into your lane like your not even there. Over time you can learn to anticipate these types of behaviors, but its something a teenager simply can't do (yet). Add on to this their loud music, dumb friends and other teenagers trying to race them and its a recipe for disaster. This is of course not a rule and more of a general observance.

I can tell you that I am a responsible person and I was as a teenager as well. However there are still times where I push the car or my motorcycle to limits that I shouldn't on the street. Unfortunately, that's what gets my blood pumping and I can't always resist. I think a lot of people fall into this category and its experience that keeps them on their toes when bad judgement gets the better of them.

Flushnismo · 07-04-2011, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

If you have the means to be able to buy your children nice things, and you believe they are responsible, and that is what makes you happy and proud to be able to do for your children, than by all means do so. You are a very nice father.

Some people just can't relate and others are hating for other reasons but there is nothing wrong with what you have done as long as it is appreciated and deserved.

The uncalled for negative responses are obnoxious, IMO

Chriz · 07-04-2011, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

If you have the means to be able to buy your children nice things, and you believe they are responsible, and that is what makes you happy and proud to be able to do for your children, than by all means do so. You are a very nice father.

Some people just can't relate and others are hating for other reasons but there is nothing wrong with what you have done as long as it is appreciated and deserved.

The uncalled for negative responses are obnoxious, IMO

Couldn't have said it better myself. Back in high school I had a fairly nice car myself as with many other kids at my school. (It was a fairly rich neighborhood). Obviously there were always idiots who would crash their cars due to stupidity, but my group of friends and I were what I consider very good drivers. No accidents, tickets ect. My father knew this and trusted me with a nice car and I turned out fine. I did my own maintenance on the car and washed it weekly. Even with a sports car at a young age, I saved my need for speed for the track, I wasn't some ******* teen driver, and I practiced safe driving habits. Sure I might not know the rewarding aspect of getting a car that i personally worked for yet since im in college, but I can say I feel very blessed to have understanding parents who trusted my driving. The statistics do not lie about the rate of accidents of young drivers but one cant assume that every teen driver is going to cause accidents. I don't know if its envy or not but yall should not bash on OP for his decisions, im sure he knows his son better than anyone else on this forum.

shumby · 07-04-2011, 02:48 AM

i like boobies

Methodical4u · 07-04-2011, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

That's not true at all. Just because you may not be able to control yourself when you are 18 doesn't mean there aren't others who can.

I have never had an accident, never had a speeding ticket, and am responsible in other aspects of my life which is why I got the Z when I was 19. Generalizations are not fair in some cases.

good post... a lot of jealousy here... the guy has the money to buy his son a nice car because he has done well with his life and showed maturity... I don't see the problem with that myself.

My first car was a truck, second was an old 93 5.0 ... I was 19 or 20 when I got that car, I later bought an 06 Evo RS and then an 08 Evo... a 2010 Mazdaspeed 3, and now the Z... know how many tickets I have? Zero... know how many i've had in my life? ZERO! Haters gonna hate lol.

shumby · 07-04-2011, 03:28 AM

what noone else likes boobies?

FromG2Z · 07-04-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TongMan

I totally agree with FromG2Z. Working hard for something is so much rewarding than someone handing over a 40 grand car to a teen. Parents in modern days love to spoil their kids.

Parents nowadays forget to re-enforce the belief that one should be hard working and earn what they have.

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

There are born with a Silver Spoon up thier a$$ and will never appreciate a car because they never have to sacrifice themself for what they want.

This is exactly my point... And no, I am not a "hater". No pun intended, but I really "hate" that term. Why does everyone who has an opinion contrary to the OP/poster a "hater"? I always have to "agree" with everyone? I don't think so.

The OP posted on a public forum, and thus will receive responses from the public. I tried to state mine in the most respectful way possible. At least I hope so. If i didn't, then I apologize. But no, I am not jealous of other folks who had it easier than me...like I said before, I have no regrets of how my life came to be and how I chose to live it.

Again my point is this, I don't have a problem with parents giving their kids car gifts. But i think if it was me, I would like to strike a nice balance. Everything in moderation. I think teaching children the value of hard work is crucial in raising kids in today's society. I think helping him pay for 1/2, for example, or making him work to pay for some portion of ownership. And lastly, if you must reward the kid a car, why a brand new high powered sportscar? Again, this is just my opinion, but it's a little too much for a 16-18 year old.

So i reiterate again....this is just my OPINION. it may not be right or u may not agree, but i stand by my thoughts, the same way u stand by yours.

(Sorry for the long post, but this topic is dear to me)

MacCool · 07-04-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

That's not true at all. Just because you may not be able to control yourself when you are 18 doesn't mean there aren't others who can.

I have never had an accident, never had a speeding ticket, and am responsible in other aspects of my life which is why I got the Z when I was 19. Generalizations are not fair in some cases.

It is true that just because an 18 year old male is statistically more likely than any other demographic to do something stupid behind the wheel of a car doesn't mean that that ALL of them are going to.

poorazn · 07-04-2011, 10:51 AM

I love these threads!

RCK, you kind of set yourself up to be flamed. You had a few decently good questions, but you choose a totally unrelated thread title, "Son's newly bought 09 370Z 6MT".

I wouldnt get the warranty. I have a feeling your son is going to deserve a GTR after college.

poorazn · 07-04-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

It is true that just because an 18 year old male is statistically more likely than any other demographic to do something stupid behind the wheel of a car doesn't mean that that ALL of them are going to.

It's also true that child molesters are more likely to molest again, but it also doesn't mean ALL of them are going too. I wouldn't give a molester a second chance with my kid.

hehe. I just poking the fire :P

Mt Tam I am · 07-04-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RCK

No, he's not 16. He's nearly 18. LOL, but he's very responsible, excellent student, superb driver, natural athlete (tennis), outstanding peripheral vision, quick, calm reflexes. Wife feels safer with him behind wheel than she does with me. He's ben driving my G since he was 16

And yeah, it's the kind of car I would drive if I were a teen. As it was, I had an orange 2002 BMW in 1970. Cost $2,900 hundred then but so did college. Yep, a certifiable geezer. Learned to drive as a cabbie in NYC when I was 19. Still aggressive after all these years.

I bought my first Z when I was 18, without financial help from dad. Dad did teach me to drive including what he called "brodies", we called them doughnuts, starting when I was 11 in his XKE. By the time I was 16 I had a lot of training under my belt.

I too was an honor student, athlete, quick reflexes, etc. Those things did not seem to slow me down in the slightest. I got to experiment with speed on the horizontal plane. An unnatural sensation that I still enjoy.

Methodical4u · 07-04-2011, 01:39 PM

The only thing about being 18 that I will say negatively is that many times it's not that they can't react faster than someone say 40's or 50's, but at times they OVERreact which can sometimes cause more problems. However, the car is a SPORTS car and it's made to turn quick, stop quick, and go fast... the going fast can be a problem, but being able to turn fast and stop fast without having to worry about the car rolling or something else isn't really a bad safety feature IMO anyway.

People, get off the man's back. He has the money, he's proud of his son and he bought him a car... get over that you didn't have one when you were 18.

MacCool · 07-04-2011, 02:08 PM

It's not reflexes, it's judgement....the point where you are old enough to have seen how many idiot drivers out there are trying to kill you, where you actually believe in your own mortality, or have a family that depends on you. That's the point when you hit the brakes instead of accelerator when the light turns yellow, or assume that every guy sitting at the intersection waiting to turn into your lane is going to pull right out in front of you. Where you stop assuming that you're safe because you have the legal right-of-way. And driving habits? It was always amazing to me how many brake jobs I had to pay for on my kids' cars, and how few they need these days. Relying on the brakes and reflexes instead of judgment and anticipation to keep from getting into trouble.

No doubt there are stupid drivers that lack judgement in every age group, they're just more readily found in that 16-23 year-old demographic.

Methodical4u · 07-04-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

It's not reflexes, it's judgement....the point where you are old enough to have seen how many idiot drivers out there are trying to kill you, where you actually believe in your own mortality, or have a family that depends on you. That's the point when you hit the brakes instead of accelerator when the light turns yellow, or assume that every guy sitting at the intersection waiting to turn into your lane is going to pull right out in front of you. Where you stop assuming that you're safe because you have the legal right-of-way. And driving habits? It was always amazing to me how many brake jobs I had to pay for on my kids' cars, and how few they need these days. Relying on the brakes and reflexes instead of judgment and anticipation to keep from getting into trouble.

No doubt there are stupid drivers that lack judgement in every age group, they're just more readily found in that 16-23 year-old demographic.

Ok those are fair points, but really, and kid could hit the gas at a yellow light or take a turn to fast in any car. If the guy bought him say a new GTI, the car isn't as fast, but he could make the same mistakes... even if he got him Toyota Yaris that could happen.

The only point i'm trying to make is that a kid or anyone has to learn these things as they get older and if he isn't anticipating something (like he should be) but has to lock his brakes up and still can avoid an accident because he has great brakes, that's a good thing right?

Speaking of which... i'm on my way home yesterday and saw a car upside down on the side of the road... 2 girls in bikini's and a guy walking around the car so I assume everyone got out ok hopefully, BUT there was no turns there, nothing... I think that cell phones are the biggest issue these days.. kids and just people in general are just typing away and I feel like beating all of them everytime I see them doing it... that's got to be one of the largest reasons for accidents over the last few years. Ridiculous.

07-04-2011, 12:53 AM	#76 (permalink)
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07-04-2011, 12:59 AM	#77 (permalink)
buddahson Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 272 Drives: 09 370z, 07 R6 Rep Power: 16	I've not read all of this thread so sorry if this has already been said, but experience is a big factor in owning a sports car, especially an expensive one. I'm talking about the experience that can only be gained through years of driving. When you know the dumb bitch 50 yards down the road is going to pull out in front of you. Or the guy talking on his cell next to you is going to try and merge into your lane like your not even there. Over time you can learn to anticipate these types of behaviors, but its something a teenager simply can't do (yet). Add on to this their loud music, dumb friends and other teenagers trying to race them and its a recipe for disaster. This is of course not a rule and more of a general observance. I can tell you that I am a responsible person and I was as a teenager as well. However there are still times where I push the car or my motorcycle to limits that I shouldn't on the street. Unfortunately, that's what gets my blood pumping and I can't always resist. I think a lot of people fall into this category and its experience that keeps them on their toes when bad judgement gets the better of them. __________________ Thanks for the sig EazyD.

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shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	what noone else likes boobies? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

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poorazn Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: DC Posts: 176 Drives: 11 370Z BC M6 Sprt Rep Power: 14	I love these threads! RCK, you kind of set yourself up to be flamed. You had a few decently good questions, but you choose a totally unrelated thread title, "Son's newly bought 09 370Z 6MT". I wouldnt get the warranty. I have a feeling your son is going to deserve a GTR after college.

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Methodical4u A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,393 Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp Rep Power: 16	The only thing about being 18 that I will say negatively is that many times it's not that they can't react faster than someone say 40's or 50's, but at times they OVERreact which can sometimes cause more problems. However, the car is a SPORTS car and it's made to turn quick, stop quick, and go fast... the going fast can be a problem, but being able to turn fast and stop fast without having to worry about the car rolling or something else isn't really a bad safety feature IMO anyway. People, get off the man's back. He has the money, he's proud of his son and he bought him a car... get over that you didn't have one when you were 18.

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MacCool A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,349 Drives: 370Z PW 2014 Rep Power: 16	It's not reflexes, it's judgement....the point where you are old enough to have seen how many idiot drivers out there are trying to kill you, where you actually believe in your own mortality, or have a family that depends on you. That's the point when you hit the brakes instead of accelerator when the light turns yellow, or assume that every guy sitting at the intersection waiting to turn into your lane is going to pull right out in front of you. Where you stop assuming that you're safe because you have the legal right-of-way. And driving habits? It was always amazing to me how many brake jobs I had to pay for on my kids' cars, and how few they need these days. Relying on the brakes and reflexes instead of judgment and anticipation to keep from getting into trouble. No doubt there are stupid drivers that lack judgement in every age group, they're just more readily found in that 16-23 year-old demographic.