Top 3 SEXIEST cars

phelan · 06-08-2011, 07:27 PM

Nissan appeals because they are targeting a niche market; they understand there's a few of us left who aren't ruled by MPG or Hybrid engines or the latest crap to spew out of the media. We want good looking cars, and we're willing to buy one at the right price. I guess that's why a lot of us are here with a Z.

FD...mmm, yes, still a great looking car. Too bad about the rotary engine. And honestly? I'd rather the FC.

11Thumper · 06-08-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

100 billion% agree. In fact, been talking to several folks about that lately. Even when talking to them/showing them our latest Honda's.... it's just not the same as they were, in both design, manufacturing, and quality standards. They've gotten lax and cheap IMO... like what happened to GM.

Nissan on the other hand, imo, is edgy and state of the art. They're designs scream, plus look at the Leaf beating the Volt out to market, plus their innovations are timely and simple. I mean, look at the SRM on our cars. Simple concept if you think about it.... but yet NO one implemented it on a manual tranny until now. Same thing with the push button start. It was a first on my 2007 Altima... not many manufacturer's had that in the main stream. Now everyone's doing it.

Prop's to Nissan. I just own a couple of Honda's because one I had for over 10 years, the other was out of necessity (minivan.... not getting toyota or Chrysler). But chances are, I won't be getting another Honda... a new one, at least.

Great points!

Although the S2000 came with push button start back in '00, however it still required a key. Kind of cool and lame at the same time.

I think Honda is putting SRM in their Acura TL now. lol

ZOLE · 06-08-2011, 09:03 PM

I don't care if they're not under $70K. These are the sexiest of all time IMHO.

1. Bugatti Type 57 Atlantic

2. Ferriar 250 GTO

3. Jaguar E-Type

ImportConvert · 06-09-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

100 billion% agree. In fact, been talking to several folks about that lately. Even when talking to them/showing them our latest Honda's.... it's just not the same as they were, in both design, manufacturing, and quality standards. They've gotten lax and cheap IMO... like what happened to GM.
GM fell into a black hole in the late 90's/early 2000's. WIth the Corvette, they now lead the industry (or are in the top 3) for lowest PPH in that segment. They have called the C6 interior "an embarrassment" and are working to fix it with the C7. It remains to be seen. My take on it is that $100 more per car would have made a world of difference in the C6's interior, and yes they did get "cheap" on it.

Nissan on the other hand, imo, is edgy and state of the art. They're designs scream, plus look at the Leaf beating the Volt out to market, plus their innovations are timely and simple. I mean, look at the SRM on our cars. Simple concept if you think about it.... but yet NO one implemented it on a manual tranny until now. Same thing with the push button start. It was a first on my 2007 Altima... not many manufacturer's had that in the main stream. Now everyone's doing it. Nissan is nothing special in these areas. They use Ford engine technology in their GT-R, and their flagship sports car (not supercar--GT-R) has the least horsepower in its price-range unless we count 4-cylinders, and uses an outdated motor that they are limping along by designing new oils for it to quiet valve-train noise, etc. as a band-aid until they come out with something else. The styling is exceptional (in my opinion), but it too has love/hate proponents. It obviously does not appeal to as many people as other cars do given Nissan's sale numbers. I like it, and you like it, but we aren't entitled to our own facts.

GM had push-button/"keyless" start before Nissan did if you are accurate with your YM07 statement(C6 corvette).

Prop's to Nissan. I just own a couple of Honda's because one I had for over 10 years, the other was out of necessity (minivan.... not getting toyota or Chrysler). But chances are, I won't be getting another Honda... a new one, at least.

I will agree and disagree. Every automaker out there has made some good decisions, and not so good. IMO Ford has made the best decisions lately. They are selling cars in amounts that other makers wish they were--and THAT is the goal of a company.

shadoquad · 06-09-2011, 03:16 PM

IC, not disagreeing with everything you said, but I think the GT-R's power is irrelevant. It's still blazing fast, and it can be modded for more power.

Personally, power matters very little to me in terms of performance. Look at what a Lotus Elise can do with a 190hp Celica engine.

shadoquad · 06-09-2011, 03:17 PM

Speaking of Lotus Elise, that's a sexy sexy car!

ImportConvert · 06-09-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

IC, not disagreeing with everything you said, but I think the GT-R's power is irrelevant. It's still blazing fast, and it can be modded for more power.

Personally, power matters very little to me in terms of performance. Look at what a Lotus Elise can do with a 190hp Celica engine.

I was referring to the 370Z's engine regarding power. The GT-R is an awesome performance machine. I have even considered buying a left-over '12 in '13, but the fact that I don't like Japanese cars is keeping me from it. Their thinking is backward from mine and I don't like that. I'm sure it's fine with many, but when I look at the suspension, etc. on a corvette, I think "Hey, I would have done that that way, too!" and when I look at the suspension on my Infiniti, I think "WTF is that for? All it does is make creaking noises!?!" Sadly, the dealership doesn't know, either. Meh. I just have a problem with the Japanese thinking when it comes to design. I'm sure they feel the same about American cars. I don't plan on working on my own car due to warranty issues until it is out of warranty, but I like to know that I could if I wanted to. When I look at a Japanese car, I feel like beyond basic maintenance and a brake job, I am lost.

As to the Elise, it's a tin can. Might as well say "Look what a Gixxer 1300 does with it's tiny engine!" Except the Gixxer is fast and the Elise is not. Power/weight is where it's at. However, the 370Z is a lot more portly than an Elise.

Sorry to argue, but I was out shooting the shotguns this morning and a few chiggers got ahold of my ankles and I have to take it out on someone. Oddly, Italian shotguns make more sense to me than American one's.

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Speaking of Lotus Elise, that's a sexy sexy car!

The new face-lift is even sexier I think.

shadoquad · 06-09-2011, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I was referring to the 370Z's engine regarding power. The GT-R is an awesome performance machine. I have even considered buying a left-over '12 in '13, but the fact that I don't like Japanese cars is keeping me from it. Their thinking is backward from mine and I don't like that. I'm sure it's fine with many, but when I look at the suspension, etc. on a corvette, I think "Hey, I would have done that that way, too!" and when I look at the suspension on my Infiniti, I think "WTF is that for? All it does is make creaking noises!?!" Sadly, the dealership doesn't know, either. Meh. I just have a problem with the Japanese thinking when it comes to design. I'm sure they feel the same about American cars.

As to the Elise, it's a tin can. Might as well say "Look what a Gixxer 1300 does with it's tiny engine!" Except the Gixxer is fast and the Elise is not.

Ah, I thought you were dogging the GTR's power numbers. Fair enough.

Lotus Elises are fast. Obviously not as fast as sport bikes

, but awfully quick around a circuit!

FromG2Z · 06-09-2011, 04:01 PM

Import....

the push buttons were apparent in other car back in 07, I know that.... I was just saying not many others were. GM had it in the vette yes, so did the S2000, sorta, and the Prius. I just thought it was cool in the Altima for a 2007. And most people did not know it had one.

As for the GTR, it's NOT a supercar to you? hmmm I think it is. But then again, it's just opinions for both of us. I think a car that goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds (2012) and costs 90k, is a supercar. I like it, and Nissan has done great engineering to it to make it so. Now if only they made a manual tranny for it

Pharmacist · 06-09-2011, 06:04 PM

wilsonp · 06-09-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Import....
As for the GTR, it's NOT a supercar to you?

I think you totally misread his admittedly difficult to parse writing.

He is saying the GT-R is a supercar, and the 370Z as the top sportscar in the Nissan line-up is under powered.

And most people said the NSX was under powered for years, until one embarrassed them on a track (it was definitely under powered in the 2000's though).

It isn't about peak horsepower, it's about performance, and the 370Z was leading until the 2011 Mustang GT came out, and it is still pretty close, which the 350Z - 370Z update brought about.

I don't think a variable valve lift and timing throttle-less engine with a flat torque curve and 7500 RPM red line is out of date at all - add some direct injection and tuning, and it can beat the Mustang with just an engine and I/H/E mid-cycle facelift (though some more lightness would be nice).

b1adesofcha0s · 06-09-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

I think you totally misread his admittedly difficult to parse writing.

He is saying the GT-R is a supercar, and the 370Z as the top sportscar in the Nissan line-up is under powered.

And most people said the NSX was under powered for years, until one embarrassed them on a track (it was definitely under powered in the 2000's though).

It isn't about peak horsepower, it's about performance, and the 370Z was leading until the 2011 Mustang GT came out, and it is still pretty close, which the 350Z - 370Z update brought about.

I don't think a variable valve lift and timing throttle-less engine with a flat torque curve and 7500 RPM red line is out of date at all - add some direct injection and tuning, and it can beat the Mustang with just an engine and I/H/E mid-cycle facelift (though some more lightness would be nice).

Direct injection + more lightness for the 370Z = winning!

FromG2Z · 06-09-2011, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsonp

I think you totally misread his admittedly difficult to parse writing.

He is saying the GT-R is a supercar, and the 370Z as the top sportscar in the Nissan line-up is under powered.

And most people said the NSX was under powered for years, until one embarrassed them on a track (it was definitely under powered in the 2000's though).

It isn't about peak horsepower, it's about performance, and the 370Z was leading until the 2011 Mustang GT came out, and it is still pretty close, which the 350Z - 370Z update brought about.

I don't think a variable valve lift and timing throttle-less engine with a flat torque curve and 7500 RPM red line is out of date at all - add some direct injection and tuning, and it can beat the Mustang with just an engine and I/H/E mid-cycle facelift (though some more lightness would be nice).

Ah ok ok... my bad. Yes, then we're all on the same page then. I agree.

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Direct injection + more lightness for the 370Z = winning!

Yeah, what IS up with our 370's not having direct injection? I figured Nissan would have done that already. Perhaps they're saving it for the 2012's or 2013's just to say they did something new? We'd be in the 350hp at the crank for sure.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-09-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Ah ok ok... my bad. Yes, then we're all on the same page then. I agree.

Yeah, what IS up with our 370's not having direct injection? I figured Nissan would have done that already. Perhaps they're saving it for the 2012's or 2013's just to say they did something new? We'd be in the 350hp at the crank for sure.

That's what I was thinking. Would be a nice mid-cycle refresh for the 370Z. I think the new G37 that's coming out soon should give us a good idea of what is to come for the Z.

Zaggeron · 06-10-2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Speaking of Lotus Elise, that's a sexy sexy car!

Not to nitpick or anything, but that is an Exige.

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phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	Nissan appeals because they are targeting a niche market; they understand there's a few of us left who aren't ruled by MPG or Hybrid engines or the latest crap to spew out of the media. We want good looking cars, and we're willing to buy one at the right price. I guess that's why a lot of us are here with a Z. FD...mmm, yes, still a great looking car. Too bad about the rotary engine. And honestly? I'd rather the FC. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	Import.... the push buttons were apparent in other car back in 07, I know that.... I was just saying not many others were. GM had it in the vette yes, so did the S2000, sorta, and the Prius. I just thought it was cool in the Altima for a 2007. And most people did not know it had one. As for the GTR, it's NOT a supercar to you? hmmm I think it is. But then again, it's just opinions for both of us. I think a car that goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds (2012) and costs 90k, is a supercar. I like it, and Nissan has done great engineering to it to make it so. Now if only they made a manual tranny for it __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra

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