Worth it, to go F.I.???

DIGItonium · 06-06-2011, 10:32 AM

I'm better at building computers than working on something at this level with my car, plus the computer tools will not work with my car

It's just the cost of convenience. Plus, the person working on my car is a Nissan master tech. They can get this thing done in about 2 days. If anything, they'll have quick access to tools and parts. It'll be nice to get the car running well in one week versus several weeks dealing with hiccups, ordering parts, troubleshooting, etc.

FromG2Z · 06-06-2011, 10:46 AM

Good points digi. Yeah as for me, I would not have anyone or any shop that would be reputable enough that I would trust on my car. Besides, even if I did ask the Nissan dealer to do with it, aside from being raped by pricing, I don't they'd even do it. But yeah, I would never have a dealer touch my car anyways... except for maybe warranty work.

NewYorkJon34 · 06-06-2011, 11:09 AM

My car is a DD which is why I plan on building the engine from the beginning so I don't have to worry about a thing.

Red__Zed · 06-06-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

My car is a DD which is why I plan on building the engine from the beginning so I don't have to worry about a thing.

Just because you have a built engine doesn't mean things will be worry-free

DIGItonium · 06-06-2011, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Good points digi. Yeah as for me, I would not have anyone or any shop that would be reputable enough that I would trust on my car. Besides, even if I did ask the Nissan dealer to do with it, aside from being raped by pricing, I don't they'd even do it. But yeah, I would never have a dealer touch my car anyways... except for maybe warranty work.

I'm planning to ship my car to Baker Nissan in Houston if that helps.

FromG2Z · 06-06-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DIGItonium

I'm planning to ship my car to Baker Nissan in Houston if that helps.

Wow you're really going all out on this huh? I envy you

Shipping costs are high aren't they?

But yeah, I heard good things about Baker.

DIGItonium · 06-06-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Wow you're really going all out on this huh? I envy you

Shipping costs are high aren't they?

But yeah, I heard good things about Baker.

Haha I've envied others since the 350Z days...

When it comes to dream cars, I guess I'm a Nissan fan at heart. Dad already has the Z32-TT. The GT-R is sick, but it is huge, pricey, and does not come with a manual. If I ever get in a situation where I'll never be able to drive a manual, I would probably trade the Z in for a GT-R.

Alternatively, the missed opportunity was a beautiful silver '04 NSX for under $50k. I would lighten it up and go all motor with it for a daily driver.

With the 370Z, I'm assuming maintenance would be similar to the Z32-TT, so it's way cheaper than maintaining the GT-R.

I haven't checked the shipping costs for the car yet, but I'm definitely shuffling finances to quickly pay it off and then get back on track. You only live once, right? It's nice to enjoy boost and toys while I'm still "young."

NewYorkJon34 · 06-06-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Just because you have a built engine doesn't mean things will be worry-free

Why you say that? I believe it will pretty reliable

Red__Zed · 06-06-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Why you say that? I believe it will pretty reliable

It likely will be, but anytime you heavily modify a car like that you can run into a lot of issues. Sometimes having a shop build your motor can create even more problems than an FI setup by itself-- even if it is reputable shop (ask me how I know this

)

Even stock cars have all sorts of random issues that crop up, even with the standardization and low failure rates. Modifications to that systems significantly increase the risk of failure on all counts.

NewYorkJon34 · 06-06-2011, 09:12 PM

I'd be buying the shortblock from GTM able to hold up to 600whp. I'd like to achieve at least 500whp. What's your experience that you've gone through?

Red__Zed · 06-06-2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

I'd be buying the shortblock from GTM able to hold up to 600whp. I'd like to achieve at least 500whp. What's your experience that you've gone through?

Too much to type out right now, but three motor builds on f20c's that failed, working with the shop that knows them better than anyone else. As well as a turbo failure (just random chance, it happens sometimes) that sent bits of metal into the engine...which apparently isn't good for it.

NewYorkJon34 · 06-06-2011, 10:03 PM

What kind of build did you do on the f20?

Red__Zed · 06-06-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

What kind of build did you do on the f20?

NewYorkJon34 · 06-06-2011, 10:11 PM

Looks sick, but then again the chances of you running into problems with a turbo'd car pushing almost 700whp is going to be much more likely then my supercharged Z putting down 500whp. Too many different factors to compare, but I'm sry for your loss. It must have been a beast.

Red__Zed · 06-06-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkJon34

Looks sick, but then again the chances of you running into problems with a turbo'd car pushing almost 700whp is going to be much more likely then my supercharged Z putting down 500whp. Too many different factors to compare, but I'm sry for your loss. It must have been a beast.

actually, most of the issues were when running ~500 whp. On the 693 whp setup, the car was flawless.

I'm not trying to down your plans, I'm just saying nothing with aftermarket FI will ever be "worry-free." There's a lot to go wrong. I had similar issues with turbo d series motors I ran as well, and with tuned NA K's.

06-06-2011, 10:32 AM	#61 (permalink)
DIGItonium A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,800 Drives: 09 Z34-TT 6MT Rep Power: 42	I'm better at building computers than working on something at this level with my car, plus the computer tools will not work with my car It's just the cost of convenience. Plus, the person working on my car is a Nissan master tech. They can get this thing done in about 2 days. If anything, they'll have quick access to tools and parts. It'll be nice to get the car running well in one week versus several weeks dealing with hiccups, ordering parts, troubleshooting, etc. __________________

06-06-2011, 10:46 AM	#62 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	Good points digi. Yeah as for me, I would not have anyone or any shop that would be reputable enough that I would trust on my car. Besides, even if I did ask the Nissan dealer to do with it, aside from being raped by pricing, I don't they'd even do it. But yeah, I would never have a dealer touch my car anyways... except for maybe warranty work. __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra

06-06-2011, 11:09 AM	#63 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	My car is a DD which is why I plan on building the engine from the beginning so I don't have to worry about a thing. __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build

06-06-2011, 09:12 PM	#70 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	I'd be buying the shortblock from GTM able to hold up to 600whp. I'd like to achieve at least 500whp. What's your experience that you've gone through? __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build

06-06-2011, 10:03 PM	#72 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	What kind of build did you do on the f20? __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build

06-06-2011, 10:11 PM	#74 (permalink)
NewYorkJon34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 3,041 Drives: 09 Fairlady Z Rep Power: 1065	Looks sick, but then again the chances of you running into problems with a turbo'd car pushing almost 700whp is going to be much more likely then my supercharged Z putting down 500whp. Too many different factors to compare, but I'm sry for your loss. It must have been a beast. __________________ NewYorkJon34's Ultimate Z Build

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