Worth it, to go F.I.???

FromG2Z · 06-03-2011, 09:22 AM

Mods, if this is in the wrong section, I apologize and please move. But I wanted to post this in the general discussions section because I wanted to pick the brains of non-F.I. folks as well.

I usually keep my sports cars for about 7 or so years... then I eventually sell/trade for another better one at the end of that time. I have never gone F.I. before, though I did own a twin turbo RX7 a few years back. So I figured, it might be cheaper (and more fun???) to just go F.I. and keep the Z much longer.

What are everyone's thoughts on going this route? Is it worth the $6-$7k to go F.I.? Is the extra hp really worth all that? Also, I live in a small town where there really isn't a tuning/install shop but 3-4 hours away

So my big worry is that going F.I. will require lots of maintenance, issues, etc. What happens if I need work done to it???? Hopefully it's something I can do on my own..... but.....

Anyways, just wanted to start a conversation on what all your thoughts were on going F.I. or just sticking with basic bolt ons. Pro's, con's, concerns, comments, etc.

Thanks guys.

m4a1mustang · 06-03-2011, 09:24 AM

I think you will find you are going to spend well over $6-7k to do everything right. If this is your daily driver, I wouldn't do it. If it's not, do more research into total cost and then think about it.

Mike · 06-03-2011, 09:25 AM

my .02 after going FI on my 350z and C6, is no, its not worth it in the end. Its going to cost more and be less reliable, and then when you do make the big power, you can't really use it on the street. 650 whp in the C6 was cool, but only in 2nd gear, by third I was too fast for street driving conditions.

kenchan · 06-03-2011, 09:33 AM

Yah, driving a fast car slow on street is the most boring thing.

Unless u track it, all these specs are just in your head as conversation topics just dreaming wat it might do.

FromG2Z · 06-03-2011, 09:37 AM

You all bring up very good points, guys. Keep em coming.

Yes, my Z is NOT a daily driver by any means. She will only get about 2k to 3k miles a year if that. Only driven on sunny days.

You bring up good points about driving a really fast high powered sports car on the street. It's pretty much useless when a Prius can start passing you on the street LOL Also, I don't track or plan to track my car, even if I went F.I. So yeah, that $7k or so, will be worth naught?!?!?!?!

kenchan · 06-03-2011, 09:56 AM

If you're happy with ur car the way it is, no need to mod it.

My Z is also a weekend car and I have to say, I'm happy with the car the way it is. I only did some dressup tweaks without affecting the overall performance of the car. You know, the basic wheels, CF bits, headunit, etc. I don't even consider those "mods."

FromG2Z · 06-03-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

If you're happy with ur car the way it is, no need to mod it.

My Z is also a weekend car and I have to say, I'm happy with the car the way it is. I only did some dressup tweaks without affecting the overall performance of the car. You know, the basic wheels, CF bits, headunit, etc. I don't even consider those "mods."

So you don't have an exhaust, Ken? My Invidia I definitely consider a "mod". Yeah the rest are minor cosmetic... shift knob, filters, etc...

I am definitely happy with Zena the way she is.... but you know, any chance to get more hp, I would definitely entertain the thought

birdmanx1 · 06-03-2011, 12:11 PM

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kenchan · 06-03-2011, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z

So you don't have an exhaust, Ken? My Invidia I definitely consider a "mod". Yeah the rest are minor cosmetic... shift knob, filters, etc...

I am definitely happy with Zena the way she is.... but you know, any chance to get more hp, I would definitely entertain the thought

my Z has a fujimura muffler and the manufacturer claims gains and weight reduction. i got it for the sound.

im also currently running HPS hose and KN drop-ins. would i consider that a mod? not sure, it's borderline gains.

as for the wheels and tires it's a definite improvement in appearance (for me) and ride quality so there's gains there. is that a mod? not sure... more of a customization to reflect the kinda guy i am, i guess.

hahaha.

SPOHN · 06-03-2011, 12:24 PM

If I could get about 380 whp out of a built motor I'd be happy.

Liquid_G · 06-03-2011, 12:30 PM

Go for a ride in someone's car who has gone FI. I think you'll change your tune.

6k for Stg1 GTM SC kit.. add an oil cooler and maybe exhaust if you'd like. (although not required)

Totally worth it IMO.

batman_4 · 06-03-2011, 12:36 PM

not wanting to thread jack but when OP mentions F.I. is maintenance even a Bish if you don't go with some crazy high WHP numbers....maybe like a 'tamed' F.I. application?

cossie1600 · 06-03-2011, 01:13 PM

I sold my C6 for the 370 because the C6 was too powerful for me to enjoy on the street. Do I miss the power? Of course. But I also want to keep my license and not crash.

tomnavone · 06-03-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_G

Go for a ride in someone's car who has gone FI. I think you'll change your tune.

6k for Stg1 GTM SC kit.. add an oil cooler and maybe exhaust if you'd like. (although not required)

Totally worth it IMO.

Stock feels slow! I drove my shops stock 370 the other day and its night and day difference.

FromG2Z · 06-03-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by birdmanx1

sub'd for arguments and for full blown epic thread fights.

Off topic was this the inspiration behind your car name?

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LOL.... yes, I was hoping to hear opinions from both sides of the fence. I wanted to hear a lot from those folks who have F.I.'d. Do they like it? Was the cost worth it? Maintenance/repair nightmares? Streetable? etc etc

And btw, to respond to your Zena question, that's Xena, not Zena

But yeah sorta.... I wanted to name her Zoey, but I couldn't get Zena out of my head... It means something in greek too. I forget what it is....

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

my Z has a fujimura muffler and the manufacturer claims gains and weight reduction. i got it for the sound.

im also currently running HPS hose and KN drop-ins. would i consider that a mod? not sure, it's borderline gains.

as for the wheels and tires it's a definite improvement in appearance (for me) and ride quality so there's gains there. is that a mod? not sure... more of a customization to reflect the kinda guy i am, i guess.

hahaha.

Never heard of Fujimura, Ken. So it's just the muffler and tips? The rest of the piping is Stock? How you like it? Got a video clip? I'd love to hear it.

Yeah no K&N drop ins for me. I had it on my G, but I dunno.... didn't really notice much gains, plus the filter just felt and looked dirty to me all the time. I know it probably had nothing to do with it, but my Mobil 1 full synthetic oil was ALWAYS black even when changed after 3 months ever since I got my K&N filter. Can particulates enter the combustion chamber from the intake???? hmmmmmm Right now I just have Wix filters in the OEM box. Really happy with them. More filter media than OEM, but yet slightly better air flow. And best part, it's dry.

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Originally Posted by tomnavone

Stock feels slow! I drove my shops stock 370 the other day and its night and day difference.

Please talk more about your FI setup.... what kind? how much invested? you like it? install a pain in the rear? any issues? streetable? best part about it is........??? worst part about it is.............?

06-03-2011, 09:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	Worth it, to go F.I.??? Mods, if this is in the wrong section, I apologize and please move. But I wanted to post this in the general discussions section because I wanted to pick the brains of non-F.I. folks as well. I usually keep my sports cars for about 7 or so years... then I eventually sell/trade for another better one at the end of that time. I have never gone F.I. before, though I did own a twin turbo RX7 a few years back. So I figured, it might be cheaper (and more fun???) to just go F.I. and keep the Z much longer. What are everyone's thoughts on going this route? Is it worth the $6-$7k to go F.I.? Is the extra hp really worth all that? Also, I live in a small town where there really isn't a tuning/install shop but 3-4 hours away So my big worry is that going F.I. will require lots of maintenance, issues, etc. What happens if I need work done to it???? Hopefully it's something I can do on my own..... but..... Anyways, just wanted to start a conversation on what all your thoughts were on going F.I. or just sticking with basic bolt ons. Pro's, con's, concerns, comments, etc. Thanks guys. __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra

06-03-2011, 09:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I think you will find you are going to spend well over $6-7k to do everything right. If this is your daily driver, I wouldn't do it. If it's not, do more research into total cost and then think about it. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

06-03-2011, 09:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	my .02 after going FI on my 350z and C6, is no, its not worth it in the end. Its going to cost more and be less reliable, and then when you do make the big power, you can't really use it on the street. 650 whp in the C6 was cool, but only in 2nd gear, by third I was too fast for street driving conditions. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

06-03-2011, 09:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	You all bring up very good points, guys. Keep em coming. Yes, my Z is NOT a daily driver by any means. She will only get about 2k to 3k miles a year if that. Only driven on sunny days. You bring up good points about driving a really fast high powered sports car on the street. It's pretty much useless when a Prius can start passing you on the street LOL Also, I don't track or plan to track my car, even if I went F.I. So yeah, that $7k or so, will be worth naught?!?!?!?! __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra

06-03-2011, 12:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
birdmanx1 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 95 Posts: 3,175 Drives: 370z Nismo Rep Power: 24	sub'd for arguments and for full blown epic thread fights. Off topic was this the inspiration behind your car name? ( Click to show/hide ) I used to have a major crush on Xena the warrior __________________ 370Z NISMO #0462 \| ClearBra \| 3M tint \| Head/Taillights \| Dynamat \| Black Roof \| Tommy Kaira HB \| CF Parts \| Berk HFCs \| FI SS \| NST Pulleys \| Takeda aFe \| K&N \| H&R Spacers \| Swift Spec R \| SPC F&R \| Zuperman M370 Nismo Vid \| Nismo Journal \| Nismo Rumble Last edited by birdmanx1; 06-03-2011 at 12:32 PM.

06-03-2011, 09:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Yah, driving a fast car slow on street is the most boring thing. Unless u track it, all these specs are just in your head as conversation topics just dreaming wat it might do.

06-03-2011, 09:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	If you're happy with ur car the way it is, no need to mod it. My Z is also a weekend car and I have to say, I'm happy with the car the way it is. I only did some dressup tweaks without affecting the overall performance of the car. You know, the basic wheels, CF bits, headunit, etc. I don't even consider those "mods."

06-03-2011, 12:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 46 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	If I could get about 380 whp out of a built motor I'd be happy. __________________

06-03-2011, 12:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 44	Go for a ride in someone's car who has gone FI. I think you'll change your tune. 6k for Stg1 GTM SC kit.. add an oil cooler and maybe exhaust if you'd like. (although not required) Totally worth it IMO. __________________

06-03-2011, 12:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
batman_4 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: McAllen Tx. Posts: 1,038 Drives: '09 PW 370Z Rep Power: 368	not wanting to thread jack but when OP mentions F.I. is maintenance even a Bish if you don't go with some crazy high WHP numbers....maybe like a 'tamed' F.I. application? __________________ '09 6spd. Touring: Eibach / SPC / Motordyne / Berk / Z1 / Oneighty / Mines / SSR / Stillen / CFE

06-03-2011, 01:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	I sold my C6 for the 370 because the C6 was too powerful for me to enjoy on the street. Do I miss the power? Of course. But I also want to keep my license and not crash.

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