Originally Posted by Hambone1 (Post 1139610)

I think it's a combination of being underpowered and also all of it's quirks.

I've heard those arguments for a larger or boosted engine, and it would be completely retarded. You'd get like 5 mpg, and if it was boosted you'd be swapping engines once a week from blowing them.

V6 in the MS6 isn't bad. Plus I'm pretty sure they can still raid the Ford parts bin, I don't know why they aren't snagging Eco-Boost and doing something with it

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1142497)

You have your opinions, which I agree with some of it. Here are some you are absolutely wrong or I don't agree on.

#1 232HP is not a lot in 2011, but it was respectable back in 2004. It's all about expectations. Is that a quirk? Maybe. I sold mine because I expected too much from 232HP.



Masturbating in the Prius is great, plenty of room and a great AC. It is also a great rain day track car, you should give it a shot and see how well you will do against it. With all that said, I can still hop back in the Z when I need to.

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1142497)

You have your opinions, which I agree with some of it. Here are some you are absolutely wrong or I don't agree on.

#1 232HP is not a lot in 2011, but it was respectable back in 2004. It's all about expectations. Is that a quirk? Maybe. I sold mine because I expected too much from 232HP.
It was a joke then, and it's a joke now. It was so much of a joke that Mazda rated the car at 260, when it fell way short they had to buy them back.

#2 The FC RX-7 turbo held up pretty well, it was the modded cars and the poorly maintained 3rd gens that had problems. I will be the first one to tell you they have crappy highway or even around town gas mileage, but did you know that they get better gas mileage at WOT than the VQ? The difference is over 15%.
False. From the experience of everyone I knew who had them, and knew how to take care of them. The power is a lot less than the VQ at WOT, too. Who cares if you're more efficient if you are losing?

#3 Eco-boost is just a fancy term for direct fuel injection and turbocharging. Big whoopie, they have been looking at it yet they are either too stupid or too dumb to care about it. It's just Mazda as a company, never forward thinking.
Eco-boost is what Ford calls their new motors. They are pretty damn impressive. I was shocked to see how that motor looked when Ford tore it down after testing the piss out of it. Check out Ford's website sometime if you have not already. Much more impressive than the RX8's 1.3L mill.

Masturbating in the Prius is great, plenty of room and a great AC. It is also a great rain day track car, you should give it a shot and see how well you will do against it. With all that said, I can still hop back in the Z when I need to.

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1142461)

Here is what I wrote

Originally Posted by cossie1600 View Post
its people like you and retards at mazda that killed the car.

Unless he works as an exec. for Mazda, I don't think I called him anything. It was nothing personal against him, I was trying to give the misguided soul some facts. As a former stockholder and customer of Mazda, I think I am within my rights to demand smarter exec. running the company.

Originally Posted by mikeSS (Post 1142565)

well the rx8 does weigh less than the 370z, but still lacks Torque. still lack power all around.

hahahahahah on the second thing !!!! thats the perfect thing to say back to him.

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1142794)

once again, i agree. if i recall correctly, i believe i had said my prius is almost as fast as my old rx8 in a low end pull. i rip it a new one when they deserve it, not randomly over some myths.

my corvette made more power than my 370 at wot, yet it burnt a little less gas than my z. does it make it better? perhaps? i am not arguing what is better and worse, i am just stating something non owners dont know about.

i drive 30k miles a year, the gas i save helps me burn some of the money with my stupid hobby. i dont street race or have to show off anymore, so why am i gooing to lug around a car that gets 20mpg on premium when i can drive one that gets 45tmpg. i understand the z is more fun to drive, but its not fun for me to drive on the street because of the cops and the expense. i also dont have anything to prove as i am happily married, runs fast enough at the track to not shame myself or the car and make enough money. so i am not ashamed of anything.

Originally Posted by kellyefields (Post 1142802)

I read 6 pagesof :argue:??? and felt like :wtf2: I want my time back.

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1142946)

i bought my 2010 prius brand new with cash for clunker money on my q45. had to pay sticker for it at the time, which was 22800 minus 4500 in july 2010.

i now have 40k miles and the dealership will give me 23500 for it in trade right now.

i agree the prices on that car is stupid right now, my aunt bought her 2010 in december for 20710

i have purchased a lot of car, this was the only one i saw that had its value go up!

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1142946)

i bought my 2010 prius brand new with cash for clunker money on my q45. had to pay sticker for it at the time, which was 22800 minus 4500 in july 2010.

i now have 40k miles and the dealership will give me 23500 for it in trade right now.

i agree the prices on that car is stupid right now, my aunt bought her 2010 in december for 20710

i have purchased a lot of car, this was the only one i saw that had its value go up!