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UNKNOWN_370 05-24-2011 09:30 AM

blacklist hunter,makes predictions for 2012 Z...
 
http://www.blacklisthunter.com/3638/...70z-preview-2/

According to this magazine, the updates will be an updated grille and sideskirts for the exterior and they claim most updates will be in the interior. I would hope so because we are probably the only car over 20k without bluetooth/usb and other little conveniences being standard. Not that I personally bought the Z for gadgets, but on a standpoint much larger than myself. People looking for a sports car or any car base a cars cool factor on gadgets and gizmos. Mustang has that sync, camaros have on star. They all have bluetooth. They all can get upgraded stereos without buying $4000 in unnecessary leather pkgs.
Z loses a lot of buyers due to the too little/too much factor. In other words. Not many want to pay over 40k for this car. But want a little more that's in the base package. When you compare to the GT cars, they offer more for the dollar as far as gadgetry and music for less money. The best examples are mustang and gencoupe.

What I found most interesting, this article stated that nissan may lower its msrp to compete with the likes of mustang and other sports cars. I can definately see that as well. With the rise in competition. The Z has to offer more. 40k is not cheap. Car companies are going back to the basics and offering more for less. Nissan must adapt as well. They make the best sports car for the money but some key ingredients can definately make it an even better buy.

What you guys think?

Econ 05-24-2011 09:43 AM

i hope they don't lower the price, and you dont need to pay 40k for this car...

you can get them new with options for ~32

I don't want the 370z to turn into a boy racer

UNKNOWN_370 05-24-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Econ (Post 1129505)
i hope they don't lower the price, and you dont need to pay 40k for this car...

you can get them new with options for ~32

I don't want the 370z to turn into a boy racer

Stop with the boy racer crap. Reason being an EVO runs in the same price range and has the boy racer rep. The Z insurance is as bad as any other boy racer car so its not exempt from that reputation no matter how much you are trying to seperate yourself from the harsh reality that the Z is built in japan and is a japanese racer car and has a ricey shark faced grille. If it wasn't a rice mobile the Z would not have been in every fast movie to date.

You can get options touring for 32k if the dealer wants to sell it for that much. They are talking msrp.

Lastly, I doubt the price drop will be gencoupe 3.8 rspec low. That car is 27k with brembos. I'm sure 30k is the lowest they will drop it.

Pharmacist 05-24-2011 09:59 AM

If people want fancy gadgets that weigh down the car, BUY A CADILLAC!!!! Nissan should not lower the price or add more gadgets. What they should do is add more power to the engine, add an oil cooler, upgrade the brake pads to more aggressive set up, stiffen the suspension a bit, have a better exhaust, and better more sticky tires. That should help the z catch up to the mustang gt, cayman s, and audi tt rs

Econ 05-24-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1129551)
Stop with the boy racer crap. Reason being an EVO runs in the same price range and has the boy racer rep. The Z insurance is as bad as any other boy racer car so its not exempt from that reputation no matter how much you are trying to seperate yourself from the harsh reality that the Z is built in japan and is a japanese racer car and has a ricey shark faced grille. If it wasn't a rice mobile the Z would not have been in every fast movie to date.

You can get options touring for 32k if the dealer wants to sell it for that much. They are talking msrp.

Lastly, I doubt the price drop will be gencoupe 3.8 rspec low. That car is 27k with brembos. I'm sure 30k is the lowest they will drop it.

lol my favorite part of your inchoherent response was ricey shark faced grille

boy racer has nothing to do with where the cars are made. If the price drops too low, we'll get a bunch of kids parents buyihng the cars for them and ricing them out left and right. I personally dont believe there will be a price drop of any measure, but just playing devils advocate if there was (which there wont be).

and i got a New touring for 26K. (24 miles). dealers will go low, you just need to work them right

UNKNOWN_370 05-24-2011 10:45 AM

I agree with pharmacist to a point. But on econ's response. It seems like young people can afford our cars just fine. I see young kids in our cars, in bimmers and lexus is300's that are new. I see them in evo's and wrx sti that cost the same as our car.
Incoherent. Well I'm on pain meds... lol. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I love the Z, but we aren't driving Aston Martins. Our cars are. 31k to 47k cars depending on coupe/vert and packages. Many wealthy parents seem to find that to be an acceptable price range to buy cars for there kids as well as young 20 somethings out of college to buy there rides. I don't see how a possible $1,000 drop will change anything???

Econ 05-24-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1129650)
I agree with pharmacist to a point. But on econ's response. It seems like young people can afford our cars just fine. I see young kids in our cars, in bimmers and lexus is300's that are new. I see them in evo's and wrx sti that cost the same as our car.
Incoherent. Well I'm on pain meds... lol. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I love the Z, but we aren't driving Aston Martins. Our cars are. 31k to 47k cars depending on coupe/vert and packages. Many wealthy parents seem to find that to be an acceptable price range to buy cars for there kids as well as young 20 somethings out of college to buy there rides. I don't see how a possible $1,000 drop will change anything???

true, however a 1,000 price drop will not cause nissan to sell more which would be their primary goal in a price drop...

i dont think people turned their back on buying a Z b/c the msrp was $1k too much.

anyway, interested to see what nissan has in store...

kenchan 05-24-2011 10:52 AM

lowering the price is not really going to help sales imho.

DJ-of-E 05-24-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1129675)
lowering the price is not really going to help sales imho.

Hopefully they finally listened and add that $700 oil cooler.

tsolin01 05-24-2011 12:22 PM

I doubt they'd lower the price with all the costs going up and Japans economy pretty much taking a nose dive after the earthquake/tsunami. A 2 seater sports car is a hard sell to most people, so in that respect you can't compare it to those GT cars.

Keeping the price the same and bumping up performance I think will boost sales. The current packages and trims I think are pretty on point with potential buyers. What they should do is make the Nismo version in a class of it's own with maybe a different engine all together or better yet boosted from the factory.

homeryansta 05-24-2011 12:23 PM

does this mean I should wait for the 2012 model? I was really thinking about picking up a Z this summer.

NecioVato 05-24-2011 12:49 PM

So there was no talk of making the engine a direct-inject (correct me if i'm wrong) for better MPG while delivering more HP?

Armonster 05-24-2011 12:50 PM

This article reads as if written by a search engine throwing random things together. I don't trust an article if I have to spend the bulk of my time figuring out WTF they are trying to say.

"What will bring to an incredible upgrade Nissan sports car? The most likely answer is very tight foreign and new side skirts and an updated interior that is likely to be filled with quality materials that most closely resemble the price tag and its coupe counterpart expensive grill.":icon14:

Jeffblue 05-24-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1129563)
If people want fancy gadgets that weigh down the car, BUY A CADILLAC!!!! Nissan should not lower the price or add more gadgets. What they should do is add more power to the engine, add an oil cooler, upgrade the brake pads to more aggressive set up, stiffen the suspension a bit, have a better exhaust, and better more sticky tires. That should help the z catch up to the mustang gt, cayman s, and audi tt rs

:iagree:


Also guys, keep in mind, people have a different idea of what it means to 'afford' a car. for some people 'affording' a car is paying for it up front in cash. others its taking out a 7 year loan with no money down, and then theres a whole middle ground. someone who can pay for a Z up front in cash can afford to finance a 911. someone else could afford to pay for a 94 honda civic in cash, could afford to finance a Z.

the point is that the price point of a car does have an impact on the demographic that buys it, however, taste has more of an impact. Z's have never been 'boy racer' cars. not because they are in this untouchable realm of awesomeness, but just because they simply haven't been as riced out as other similarly priced cars

phelan 05-24-2011 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1129913)
This article reads as if written by a search engine throwing random things together. I don't trust an article if I have to spend the bulk of my time figuring out WTF they are trying to say.

"What will bring to an incredible upgrade Nissan sports car? The most likely answer is very tight foreign and new side skirts and an updated interior that is likely to be filled with quality materials that most closely resemble the price tag and its coupe counterpart expensive grill.":icon14:

This. How was this a reliable source of anything? Half the sentences did not make any sense at all.


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