Dealer recommends I get an oil cooler?

houkouonchi · 09-03-2011, 07:05 AM

Just thought I would add I drove glendora mountain road again (took a vid this time) and even though I was reving it more than before the oil temps never got above 235 F with the oil cooler (they maxed out at that a couple minutes into it and stayed at about that level).

Considering my normal oil temp is around 170-180 ish I was honestly surprised it went that high as I wasn't expecting it to go over 230.

onzedge · 09-03-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

Just thought I would add I drove glendora mountain road again (took a vid this time) and even though I was reving it more than before the oil temps never got above 235 F with the oil cooler (they maxed out at that a couple minutes into it and stayed at about that level).

Considering my normal oil temp is around 170-180 ish I was honestly surprised it went that high as I wasn't expecting it to go over 230.

What was the ambient temperature?

red6spd · 09-03-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

Just thought I would add I drove glendora mountain road again (took a vid this time) and even though I was reving it more than before the oil temps never got above 235 F with the oil cooler (they maxed out at that a couple minutes into it and stayed at about that level).

Considering my normal oil temp is around 170-180 ish I was honestly surprised it went that high as I wasn't expecting it to go over 230.

The oil temp gauge I think has clouded a few peoples judgment. More then likely whatever car they owned in the past did not have a gauge so they have no idea what there temps were. I have heard many people complaining about temps in the 230-250 range, thats not really that abnormal. The hottest my temps got was 260, happen to me twice when I was really ringing her out, so I dont feel that my Z had the oil temp issue. Yea I added an oil cooler because I plan on tracking the car and going FI some day, those where the biggest reasons.

dennis26 · 09-03-2011, 09:55 PM

With amb temp of 90 - 95 crusing 75 - 80 mph my oil temp will hit 240 deg.

When I had my Vette oil temp would run around 205 deg.

PapoZalsa · 09-03-2011, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

The oil temp gauge I think has clouded a few peoples judgment.

Some people don't know how to drive the Z. Perfect example of this is people that goes to the Tail of the Dragon and keep the car on 2nd and 3rd all the time, of course your oil temp is going to go up pass the 230º and go into limp mode.

I have ran the Tail of the Dragon HARD twice (2010,2011) and some of the Smokey Mountain roads and had no issues without an oil cooler.

houkouonchi · 09-04-2011, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Some people don't know how to drive the Z. Perfect example of this is people that goes to the Tail of the Dragon and keep the car on 2nd and 3rd all the time, of course your oil temp is going to go up pass the 230º and go into limp mode.

I have ran the Tail of the Dragon HARD twice (2010,2011) and some of the Smokey Mountain roads and had no issues without an oil cooler.

So what gear were you in then? I wasn't going crazy but I also wasn't using my breaks very much either. I would think when taking the twisties for best control you would want your RPM in the 3-5k range.

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Originally Posted by dennis26

With amb temp of 90 - 95 crusing 75 - 80 mph my oil temp will hit 240 deg.

When I had my Vette oil temp would run around 205 deg.

Sounds like your Z runs about as hot as mine did.

gmr19 · 09-04-2011, 02:00 PM

My 2004 M3 never sees oil temps above 210, and that's in 100+ degree days with over 70% humidity (good ol Missouri) and driving up into hills. I don't understand why the 370Z has issues, seems like an engineering fault to me.

The oil temp in my 2011 Z was 215 just cruising at 75mph the other day when it was only 85deg outside. As soon as you get on the gas, you can literially see the needle move up. Other performance cars just seem to not need oil coolers at all when driving the snot out of them. Kinda pisses me off that we have to shell out major coin just to keep oil temps down.

DLSTR · 09-04-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gmr19

My 2004 M3 never sees oil temps above 210, and that's in 100+ degree days with over 70% humidity (good ol Missouri) and driving up into hills. I don't understand why the 370Z has issues, seems like an engineering fault to me.

The oil temp in my 2011 Z was 215 just cruising at 75mph the other day when it was only 85deg outside. As soon as you get on the gas, you can literially see the needle move up. Other performance cars just seem to not need oil coolers at all when driving the snot out of them. Kinda pisses me off that we have to shell out major coin just to keep oil temps down.

Im in Germany waiting for my Z to arrive this week. Purchased it and immediately added the oil cooler(Z1Motorsports kit). No way in even marginal heat only in the summer here I would want any problem.

Yes its at my expense and frankly should have been corrected by Nissan. But I wanted the car and knew going in the issue could arise(oil temp). With high speed driving here actually legal, and one can visit many tracks etc, plus Nurburgring, why chance it.

Reading online its pretty easy to find US magazines saying the issue would be a deal breaker(Road and Track) and very poor choice by Nissan to put it on the consumer(once again Road and Track). SO the word is out in the press and its a negative point on a very very good car.

Frankly the automakers have done worse things and its just an oil cooler. Take or leave it, and among all the cars out there none are perfect and no one should think they are or are all issue free.

I also have a 2009 Abarth 500 and its turbocharged and has an oil cooler!! Even cheap ole Fiat has the guts to put in an oil cooler in a performance car. I should say smarts!

gmr19 · 09-05-2011, 11:46 PM

I understand your point about all cars not being perfect, but it can deteriorate engine life which I would think Nissan would be strongly against since they're all about quality and extensive testing as seen advertised in their commercials. I realize it's not really an issue as long as you baby the car but who buys a Z to drive it like a Camry every day? Not me, hehe. A recall would be nice to maybe install a cheapo cooler but I'd be dreaming.

I suppose I should've researched the car a bit more to find out about the oil temp issue. My fault.

But I didn't want any other car damnit! lol

PapoZalsa · 09-06-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gmr19

My 2004 M3 never sees oil temps above 210, and that's in 100+ degree days with over 70% humidity (good ol Missouri) and driving up into hills. I don't understand why the 370Z has issues, seems like an engineering fault to me.

The oil temp in my 2011 Z was 215 just cruising at 75mph the other day when it was only 85deg outside. As soon as you get on the gas, you can literially see the needle move up. Other performance cars just seem to not need oil coolers at all when driving the snot out of them. Kinda pisses me off that we have to shell out major coin just to keep oil temps down.

Plus your powertrain warranty is voided!

cossie1600 · 09-06-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gmr19

My 2004 M3 never sees oil temps above 210, and that's in 100+ degree days with over 70% humidity (good ol Missouri) and driving up into hills. I don't understand why the 370Z has issues, seems like an engineering fault to me.

The oil temp in my 2011 Z was 215 just cruising at 75mph the other day when it was only 85deg outside. As soon as you get on the gas, you can literially see the needle move up. Other performance cars just seem to not need oil coolers at all when driving the snot out of them. Kinda pisses me off that we have to shell out major coin just to keep oil temps down.

if your gf wears panties, do you do the same too? not all cars are designed equal. if the engine is made with larger piston ring tolerence, it makes absolutely no difference. if anything, you can go back and argue not to overcool. oil are safe to go 260+ and 300+ on synthetic, not sure what everyone is whining about. put some 3m tape on the oil temp gauge and drive

onzedge · 09-06-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Plus your powertrain warranty is voided!

How do you figure?

Mt Tam I am · 09-06-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Plus your powertrain warranty is voided!

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Originally Posted by onzedge

How do you figure?

Yeah. Why is it voided?

onzedge · 09-06-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

Yeah. Why is it voided?

It is NOT voided by installing an oil cooler.

PapoZalsa · 09-06-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

How do you figure?

I will have to search but I beleive this what Nissan says either about the oil cooler or something related to that. It was in a thread were they gave the Part Number for the oil cooler and at the end BOOM!....the statement about the warranty.

But I might be wrong....

09-05-2011, 11:46 PM	#54 (permalink)
gmr19 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 116 Drives: '11 370Z 6MT Sport Rep Power: 14	I understand your point about all cars not being perfect, but it can deteriorate engine life which I would think Nissan would be strongly against since they're all about quality and extensive testing as seen advertised in their commercials. I realize it's not really an issue as long as you baby the car but who buys a Z to drive it like a Camry every day? Not me, hehe. A recall would be nice to maybe install a cheapo cooler but I'd be dreaming. I suppose I should've researched the car a bit more to find out about the oil temp issue. My fault. But I didn't want any other car damnit! lol Last edited by gmr19; 09-05-2011 at 11:49 PM.

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09-03-2011, 07:05 AM	#46 (permalink)
houkouonchi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ontario, California Posts: 440 Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z Rep Power: 15	Just thought I would add I drove glendora mountain road again (took a vid this time) and even though I was reving it more than before the oil temps never got above 235 F with the oil cooler (they maxed out at that a couple minutes into it and stayed at about that level). Considering my normal oil temp is around 170-180 ish I was honestly surprised it went that high as I wasn't expecting it to go over 230.

09-03-2011, 09:55 PM	#49 (permalink)
dennis26 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 314 Drives: 10 370z roadster Rep Power: 14	With amb temp of 90 - 95 crusing 75 - 80 mph my oil temp will hit 240 deg. When I had my Vette oil temp would run around 205 deg.

09-04-2011, 02:00 PM	#52 (permalink)
gmr19 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 116 Drives: '11 370Z 6MT Sport Rep Power: 14	My 2004 M3 never sees oil temps above 210, and that's in 100+ degree days with over 70% humidity (good ol Missouri) and driving up into hills. I don't understand why the 370Z has issues, seems like an engineering fault to me. The oil temp in my 2011 Z was 215 just cruising at 75mph the other day when it was only 85deg outside. As soon as you get on the gas, you can literially see the needle move up. Other performance cars just seem to not need oil coolers at all when driving the snot out of them. Kinda pisses me off that we have to shell out major coin just to keep oil temps down.