Dealer recommends I get an oil cooler?

red6spd · 09-03-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

Just thought I would add I drove glendora mountain road again (took a vid this time) and even though I was reving it more than before the oil temps never got above 235 F with the oil cooler (they maxed out at that a couple minutes into it and stayed at about that level).

Considering my normal oil temp is around 170-180 ish I was honestly surprised it went that high as I wasn't expecting it to go over 230.

The oil temp gauge I think has clouded a few peoples judgment. More then likely whatever car they owned in the past did not have a gauge so they have no idea what there temps were. I have heard many people complaining about temps in the 230-250 range, thats not really that abnormal. The hottest my temps got was 260, happen to me twice when I was really ringing her out, so I dont feel that my Z had the oil temp issue. Yea I added an oil cooler because I plan on tracking the car and going FI some day, those where the biggest reasons.

PapoZalsa · 09-03-2011, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

The oil temp gauge I think has clouded a few peoples judgment.

Some people don't know how to drive the Z. Perfect example of this is people that goes to the Tail of the Dragon and keep the car on 2nd and 3rd all the time, of course your oil temp is going to go up pass the 230º and go into limp mode.

I have ran the Tail of the Dragon HARD twice (2010,2011) and some of the Smokey Mountain roads and had no issues without an oil cooler.

houkouonchi · 09-04-2011, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Some people don't know how to drive the Z. Perfect example of this is people that goes to the Tail of the Dragon and keep the car on 2nd and 3rd all the time, of course your oil temp is going to go up pass the 230º and go into limp mode.

I have ran the Tail of the Dragon HARD twice (2010,2011) and some of the Smokey Mountain roads and had no issues without an oil cooler.

So what gear were you in then? I wasn't going crazy but I also wasn't using my breaks very much either. I would think when taking the twisties for best control you would want your RPM in the 3-5k range.

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Originally Posted by dennis26

With amb temp of 90 - 95 crusing 75 - 80 mph my oil temp will hit 240 deg.

When I had my Vette oil temp would run around 205 deg.

Sounds like your Z runs about as hot as mine did.

oleg · 05-03-2011, 09:17 PM

Whats supposed to be the average running temp on the Z?

spearfish25 · 05-03-2011, 09:18 PM

180-220 is normal range. Ideal is ~190-200.

kenchan · 05-03-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Ideal is ~190-200.

this is about where my Z's at during street driving (and some spirited driving.

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i too dont see why i would need an oil cooler for my application...

oleg · 05-03-2011, 09:38 PM

i think i might have the same problem as the op than maybe? Mine runs around 220 on the street driving. The car has only 150 miles on it. I understand that i might run the car a little harder than most on the street but i dont see the reason for my temp being there when cruising at around 3k rpm

sucasa · 05-04-2011, 01:13 AM

Mine pushes up to 190 - 200 when its up to 85 degree weather outside.. that's daily traffic in northern va/dc which sucks pretty bad. i haven't seen the temp go above.. even spirited driving.. spoke to the dealer, he said same things you said that.

If I driving on a track on a regular basis, oil cooler will help.. But this car has been tested for daily grind by the labcoats in Japan pretty extensively. If they tested it and stick to their word, I am good. I got an extended warranty just for peace of mind..

houkouonchi · 08-20-2011, 05:50 AM

And the dealer FINALLY got the oil cooler in stock. Over 3 months, un-freaking believable. Gonna bring the car down Monday to get it installed.

Also a few days ago I got back from over a week driving my old Subaru Impreza while I visited some relatives up in Washington. Man that thing felt dog slow with me and my dad in it. I really forgot how slow that thing is after being used to my 370z. It felt really good to be back in the 370z when I got back =)

Mt Tam I am · 08-20-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by houkouonchi

So I was kind of surprised by this. I came to the dealer today (I am actually still at the dealer using their wireless) to get my oil changed (I am at 18k+ miles) so I had them give me the values for the tires as well (the tread is low, 3 on front 2 on rear) which is pretty much what I expected. My bill is gonna be more this time since I am also getting the air filters and stuff (doing their 15k maintenance stuff). Anyway everything I am having tone today is gonna be about $200.

I wasn't super surprised to find out that my tires need replacing which I figured I would be doing soon. Their service manager (I am guessing) actually came to ask me about the camera in the car (they were wondering if I do street racing or drifting, lol). Anyway the thing I didn't expect is them to come out later and recommend I get an oil cooler (totally out of the blue). They are gonna give me a quote on it and I will consider doing it but they said it wouldn't be covered under warranty.

I did find it surprising that they said nissan recommends the oil cooler if you drive for extended periods of time (I drive it 80 miles every day I work). Oil temps are the *one* thing I don't like about my Z so I might consider doing it if its under $800 installed. I must say I am surprised to here the recommendation from them though.

Anyone else have this happen to them?

The oil cooler was my first modification. I can't imagine living without one again. This car gets the oil hot. I do admit to driving my car the way it was intended to be driven. I would not be going to Sears Point today without an oil cooler.

onzedge · 08-20-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mt Tam I am

The oil cooler was my first modification. I can't imagine living without one again. This car gets the oil hot. I do admit to driving my car the way it was intended to be driven. I would not be going to Sears Point today without an oil cooler.

It was my first mod as well.

Skeeterbop · 08-20-2011, 03:10 PM

I've noticed that my Z runs around 220-230 on the highway. But that is with triple digit heat as well. If I start running my car at a track or autocross I plan on getting an oil cooler installed as well.

ImportConvert · 08-21-2011, 10:18 AM

Stay away from the dealership unless you can bring a knowledgeable friend. They are pissing down your boot and trying to convince you its raining.

dennis26 · 09-03-2011, 08:55 PM

With amb temp of 90 - 95 crusing 75 - 80 mph my oil temp will hit 240 deg.

When I had my Vette oil temp would run around 205 deg.

gmr19 · 09-04-2011, 01:00 PM

My 2004 M3 never sees oil temps above 210, and that's in 100+ degree days with over 70% humidity (good ol Missouri) and driving up into hills. I don't understand why the 370Z has issues, seems like an engineering fault to me.

The oil temp in my 2011 Z was 215 just cruising at 75mph the other day when it was only 85deg outside. As soon as you get on the gas, you can literially see the needle move up. Other performance cars just seem to not need oil coolers at all when driving the snot out of them. Kinda pisses me off that we have to shell out major coin just to keep oil temps down.

05-03-2011, 09:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	180-220 is normal range. Ideal is ~190-200. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

05-04-2011, 01:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
sucasa Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: DC Posts: 156 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 15	Mine pushes up to 190 - 200 when its up to 85 degree weather outside.. that's daily traffic in northern va/dc which sucks pretty bad. i haven't seen the temp go above.. even spirited driving.. spoke to the dealer, he said same things you said that. If I driving on a track on a regular basis, oil cooler will help.. But this car has been tested for daily grind by the labcoats in Japan pretty extensively. If they tested it and stick to their word, I am good. I got an extended warranty just for peace of mind.. __________________ 2010 Sport Touring \| NAV \| 7A \| 3M VentureShield [sold]

08-20-2011, 03:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 41 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 17	I've noticed that my Z runs around 220-230 on the highway. But that is with triple digit heat as well. If I start running my car at a track or autocross I plan on getting an oil cooler installed as well. __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

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05-03-2011, 09:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 15	Whats supposed to be the average running temp on the Z?

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oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 15	i think i might have the same problem as the op than maybe? Mine runs around 220 on the street driving. The car has only 150 miles on it. I understand that i might run the car a little harder than most on the street but i dont see the reason for my temp being there when cruising at around 3k rpm

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houkouonchi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Ontario, California Posts: 440 Drives: '14 GT-R '10 M6 370z Rep Power: 15	And the dealer FINALLY got the oil cooler in stock. Over 3 months, un-freaking believable. Gonna bring the car down Monday to get it installed. Also a few days ago I got back from over a week driving my old Subaru Impreza while I visited some relatives up in Washington. Man that thing felt dog slow with me and my dad in it. I really forgot how slow that thing is after being used to my 370z. It felt really good to be back in the 370z when I got back =)

08-21-2011, 10:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
ImportConvert A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SWMO Posts: 4,454 Drives: 2019 CX5 GT Reserve Rep Power: 7627	Stay away from the dealership unless you can bring a knowledgeable friend. They are pissing down your boot and trying to convince you its raining.

09-03-2011, 08:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
dennis26 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 314 Drives: 10 370z roadster Rep Power: 14	With amb temp of 90 - 95 crusing 75 - 80 mph my oil temp will hit 240 deg. When I had my Vette oil temp would run around 205 deg.

09-04-2011, 01:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
gmr19 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 116 Drives: '11 370Z 6MT Sport Rep Power: 15	My 2004 M3 never sees oil temps above 210, and that's in 100+ degree days with over 70% humidity (good ol Missouri) and driving up into hills. I don't understand why the 370Z has issues, seems like an engineering fault to me. The oil temp in my 2011 Z was 215 just cruising at 75mph the other day when it was only 85deg outside. As soon as you get on the gas, you can literially see the needle move up. Other performance cars just seem to not need oil coolers at all when driving the snot out of them. Kinda pisses me off that we have to shell out major coin just to keep oil temps down.