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FromG2Z 05-03-2011 01:25 PM

350Z vs 370Z highlights?!?!?!
 
I have my flame suit on, so please be gentle....

So I was at a car meet the other day, and this guy walks up to me and compliments me on my car yada yada. Then he asks this question, "So can you tell me what changed from the 350z to the 370z?"

I stopped, paused, and said, "Well, obviously the shape, rims...". Then I was confident I could state a lot more obvious ones. "Also there's the SRM", which I then proceeded to explain. "The interior has also been completely redone.", then proceeded to explain that.

That's when there was eery silence.... I was thinking WHAT ELSE?!?!?! I started thinking maybe power/torque output, but I think wasn't the 08 350z and the 09 370z really close in output already? Maybe I should have said a better version of VDC???

So I guess that's my question... so I know how to NOT look dumb the next time someone asks me that.

Can you list out what differences (other than looks/rims, etc) the 370 and 350 have????

kielbasa16 05-03-2011 01:39 PM

Dont know much about the 350, but it had a 3.5 liter engine as compared to our 3.7, hence the name of the cars, right?

FromG2Z 05-03-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kielbasa16 (Post 1087506)
Dont know much about the 350, but it had a 3.5 liter engine as compared to our 3.7, hence the name of the cars, right?

I think the latter years 350Z's also had a 3.7 liter right? Just like the G35/G37's?!?!?!

Maybe I'm thinking twin intakes..... hmmmmmmmm

Sibze 05-03-2011 01:48 PM

I don't think any of the 350's had the 3.7

Really its a whole new car... I would more say, whats the same??? Not much

Edit: Not saying anything bad about the 350, just saying its a different car, not better not worse, different

kielbasa16 05-03-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1087538)
I don't think any of the 350's had the 3.7

Confirmed via Wikipedia

shoopajae10 05-03-2011 01:51 PM

The 350z never had 3.7 liters. They elevated the engine slightly and had dual intakes.

Correct me if I'm wrong =X

FromG2Z 05-03-2011 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1087538)
I don't think any of the 350's had the 3.7

Really its a whole new car... I would more say, whats the same??? Not much


Ok, that officially makes me the dumbest 370z owner around.... sheeeeeeeeeesh. Sad part was I knew that too, and yet didn't say it. Wonderful. I should have said, "They enlarged the engine size to 3.7 liters". Done. Simple.... So then output increased for us too then?

what else?

Sibze 05-03-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1087553)
Ok, that officially makes me the dumbest 370z owner around.... sheeeeeeeeeesh. Sad part was I knew that too, and yet didn't say it. Wonderful. I should have said, "They enlarged the engine size to 3.7 liters". Done. Simple.... So then output increased for us too then?

what else?


Everything man... its a different car

shoopajae10 05-03-2011 01:53 PM

Just say its faster and looks better. Done.

Sibze 05-03-2011 01:53 PM

The body
The engine
The transmission
The synchrorev match
The interior
The suspension

Keep going...

m4a1mustang 05-03-2011 01:54 PM

Shorter, wider wheel base. Lighter. 3.7L VQ37VHR with VVEL. Better interior. etc.

c41006 05-03-2011 01:54 PM

Pretty much everything

6MT 05-03-2011 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1087528)
I think the latter years 350Z's also had a 3.7 liter right? Just like the G35/G37's?!?!?!

Maybe I'm thinking twin intakes..... hmmmmmmmm

No, the 350 never had the 3.7 engine.

FromG2Z 05-03-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1087563)
The body
The engine
The transmission
The synchrorev match
The interior
The suspension

Keep going...

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1087565)
Shorter, wider wheel base. Lighter. 3.7L VQ37VHR with VVEL. Better interior. etc.

That about sums it up right there. The weight was another thing I forgot to mention too then. :( What was 350's weight vs our Z? Anyone know?

m4a1mustang 05-03-2011 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1087577)
That about sums it up right there. The weight was another thing I forgot to mention too then. :( What was 350's weight vs our Z? Anyone know?

I want to say on average the 370Z is around 100 lbs lighter.

theDreamer 05-03-2011 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1087577)
That about sums it up right there. The weight was another thing I forgot to mention too then. :( What was 350's weight vs our Z? Anyone know?

Depends on the year, the 370z is lighter than certain 350z years.
Honestly, between the two cars a lot has changed. Basically Nissan went back and did a ground up design with taking its knowledge from the 350z and using some of it to inspire the 370z design.

For the average person they will just say, oh its a refresh but really it is a solid overall between the two cars. Both of which were fantastic and great in their own ways.

m4a1mustang 05-03-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1087585)
Depends on the year, the 370z is lighter than certain 350z years.
Honestly, between the two cars a lot has changed. Basically Nissan went back and did a ground up design with taking its knowledge from the 350z and using some of it to inspire the 370z design.

For the average person they will just say, oh its a refresh but really it is a solid overall between the two cars. Both of which were fantastic and great in their own ways.

Yep it's definitely a total overhaul. The 370 in just about every way is an improvement over the 350.

kenchan 05-03-2011 02:03 PM

G2Z- dont worry. i dont know or care much about the 350Z either. :icon17:

that platform was best in the G35C's form. :tup:

Gunzero 05-03-2011 02:08 PM

next time just show him this video..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjbeOPRW214

onzedge 05-03-2011 02:11 PM

^^^Nice :tup:^^^

cossie1600 05-03-2011 02:21 PM

it just evolved for the better, but they didnt make anything special

FromG2Z 05-03-2011 02:23 PM

ok, that commercial ROCKED. I've never seen that one. Was that ever aired here??? what the..... I must have been living under a rock.

But yes, I knew that it was a complete overhaul, but I just wanted to educate the masses of folks that didn't know about our new Z's at that meet. I know more now of what to say at the next meet ;)

FromG2Z 05-03-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1087634)
it just evolved for the better, but they didnt make anything special

Come again????

Kingbaby 05-03-2011 02:37 PM

He's saying they didn't take any features from the 350z except the Z part. Op you have to do your research if your gonna be a z driver. Seriously!

Do you know what a 240z is?

Figure that out and it all falls into place.

I was gonna defend the 03-08 z but nah! I see you lost drivers on the road lol...

dang370z 05-03-2011 02:56 PM

The 350 is a 3.5l while the 370 is a 3.7 ( the name )
Also the 370 wheelbase is shorter by 4inches and is barely wider then the 350 believe. and everything else you listed :tiphat:

cossie1600 05-03-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FromG2Z (Post 1087637)
Come again????

the 370 is a faster and better car, it evolved, but i cant say it put itself in the super car level

kenchan 05-03-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1087755)
the 370 is a faster and better car, it evolved, but i cant say it put itself in the super car level

that was never nissan's intent... :ugh2:

Lug 05-03-2011 03:10 PM

The 370Z is more of an evolution thtn a revolution in design. EVERYTHING was improved a little bit. The only exception was the 2004 1/2 350Z, it was FLAWLESS! :mad:

The weight confusion is that in 2006, the 350Z gained 150 lbs. So the early 350Z's with the less powerful engine (DE - 283 hp) actually weighed less than a 370Z and the post 2006 Z's with the more powerful engines (revup and HR - up to 306 hp) weighed more than the 370Z.

kenchan 05-03-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1087762)
EVERYTHING was improved quite a bit. :mad:

fixed

kielbasa16 05-03-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1087755)
the 370 is a faster and better car, it evolved, but i cant say it put itself in the super car level

Which was never the intent. When the 2009's came out they pretty much dominated the niche of new, affordable performance. Other manufacturers have lately managed to challenge for that position hence many threads on the 5.0 and calling for a 370Z refresh.

Kingbaby 05-03-2011 03:13 PM

:icon17:

SeattleLion 05-03-2011 03:15 PM

I went shopping in '06 and looked at the 350. From the driver's perspective there was almost no rear view at all. Also the cockpit wasn't very um...special.

As mentioned, the 370 is lighter, more powerful, faster, shorter, and wider.The interior is way better, the sat nav is improved, better sound, etc.

Being asked the question isn't unfair or dumb. Nissan has managed to screw up Z's over the years too. The 240Z was amazing. The 280 wasn't bad, but not particularly better. Then until the 350 Nissan totally dropped the ball. I am very grateful that the evolution is now going the right way. The 350 restored the Z to its rightful place as a reasonably priced true sports car (as opposed to the Mitsubishi Eclipse, which looks cool but isn't a true sports car). The 370 is truly evolutionary. It isn't a completely new car from the 350. It is an amazing refinement.

Lug 05-03-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1087767)
fixed

Well if 26 hp, about 100 lbs. and about a .2 0-60 is quite a lot for for you in a whole new model, then ok! :tup:

kielbasa16 05-03-2011 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeattleLion (Post 1087778)
I went shopping in '06 and looked at the 350. From the driver's perspective there was almost no rear view at all. Also the cockpit wasn't very um...special.

As mentioned, the 370 is lighter, more powerful, faster, shorter, and wider.The interior is way better, the sat nav is improved, better sound, etc.

Being asked the question isn't unfair or dumb. Nissan has managed to screw up Z's over the years too. The 240Z was amazing. The 280 wasn't bad, but not particularly better. Then until the 350 Nissan totally dropped the ball. I am very grateful that the evolution is now going the right way. The 350 restored the Z to its rightful place as a reasonably priced true sports car (as opposed to the Mitsubishi Eclipse, which looks cool but isn't a true sports car). The 370 is truly evolutionary. It isn't a completely new car from the 350. It is an amazing refinement.

Curious what your gripes are with the 300ZX, I feel like its a favorite of many Z enthusiasts.

kenchan 05-03-2011 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1087781)
Well if 26 hp, about 100 lbs. and about a .2 0-60 is quite a lot for for you in a whole new model, then ok! :tup:

like i posted before, that platform was better suited for the G35C. :tup:

TreeSemdyZee 05-03-2011 03:21 PM

I haven't seen that anyone has noted it, but the 370 and the '07-'09 (vert) 350s have basically the same engine. The 350 of course is 3.5, but they both are HR motors.

As a footnote, ALL Z names relate to their engine size. 240z=2.4 litre, 280=2.8 and so on.

I had an '05 350 and believe me, the improvements over the 350 are great. As much as I enjoyed my 350, I don't miss all of the rattles and issues involved with it.

AlphaSnacks 05-03-2011 03:31 PM

The 370Z is not lighter than the 350Z. Nissan claimed it was, but every magazine that has weighed them have noted they actually weigh the same as the 06-08 350Zs, and more than 03-05 350Zs. Pre-production 370Zs weighed a little less, but then additional safety equipment was added to the final product which added weight.

Anyways, all 07-08 350Zs (also 09 Convertibles) had the new VQ35HR motor, which is essentially the motor our VQ37HR is based on - just with less displacement and a few minor internal differences. Power differences between 350Zs were: 287HP > 300HP > 306HP. So our 370Z has anywhere between 26-45HP more. 370Zs also boast much better braking, especially if you get the sports package that comes with the 4-piston front/2-piston rear 14-inch brakes.

Then you simply look at the interiors - the 350Zs best interior with navi still looks like it was made from a bin of plastics used to make legos. Where as the 370Zs best interior looks and feels absolutely wonderful all around. Headlights, taillights, every single body panel, suspension, etc. are all different - the cars share practically nothing expect for the 6-speed transmission.

cossie1600 05-03-2011 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kielbasa16 (Post 1087769)
Which was never the intent. When the 2009's came out they pretty much dominated the niche of new, affordable performance. Other manufacturers have lately managed to challenge for that position hence many threads on the 5.0 and calling for a 370Z refresh.

agreed, but i agree with other poster that this car is basically a 2nd gen 350. it improved on the 350, but it didnt do anything revolutionary. think 1st gen miata to 2nd gen, not 2nd gen mr2 to 3rd gen mr2

kenchan 05-03-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1087811)
think 1st gen miata to 2nd gen, not 2nd gen mr2 to 3rd gen mr2

how is your prius different from prius1 to prius2?

Lug 05-03-2011 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1087811)
agreed, but i agree with other poster that this car is basically a 2nd gen 350. it improved on the 350, but it didnt do anything revolutionary. think 1st gen miata to 2nd gen, not 2nd gen mr2 to 3rd gen mr2

I can see your point as long as you don't bring miata doors into the discussion.


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