370Z vs TT-RS

kevr6 · 05-01-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody

This car is impressive..These are the numbers from car and driver. But the U.S. does not get this car. We get an Audi without the 7 speed dual clutch. We will only see a 6 speed manual. On the flip side, U.S. spec cars will have 360hp, not 335hp. The cars will likely be just as fast as one another since the extra hp will offset the faster shifting DCT.

ENGINE TYPE: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 20-valve inline-5, iron block and aluminum head, direct fuel injection
Displacement: 151 cu in, 2480 cc
Power (SAE net): 335 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 332 lb-ft @ 1600 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 7-speed dual-clutch automatic

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 97.2 in Length: 165.3 in
Width: 72.5 in Height: 52.8 in
Curb weight: 3320 lbs

Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 17.0 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 155 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 161 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.95 g

I've driven the TTRS two weeks ago and it was faster and more rigid then my 370Z hands down!! More refined, etc etc etc. The Z only wins for bang for the buck. If you can afford a TTRS then that is the car to get! You just go get it flashed with bolt ons and it's playing with R8s on the track at that point! Us folks who need to worry about bang for the buck, we buy the 370Z.

Also: Our cars have had bad brakes press also!! (Have we already forgotten?)

PapoZalsa · 05-01-2011, 08:30 PM

Yeah and the Audi = High Maintenace $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ after the warranty is gone.

cfweber · 05-01-2011, 08:51 PM

That Audi is awesome.

I'll trade straight up

kevr6 · 05-01-2011, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Yeah and the Audi = High Maintenace $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ after the warranty is gone.

Agreed! Some folks don't care about that because all the other pluses are more important!
That's why we shop for bang for the buck because we are not part of that market! That's also why I can afford to have and play with my Z.

Cmike2780 · 05-01-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

TT-RS can't break 4s. It comes in at 4.5-4.9 which is on par with the quickest of the 370Z times.

More interestingly is that the TT-RS was less than a second quicker around their track. I think the Z just takes some skill to drive quickly, and puts down the most impressive times when you trash the OEM RE050As and put some real tires on it (aka RE-11s).

Video: Audi TT RS blasts from 0-60 in 3.6 seconds with Car and Driver — Autoblog

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-01-2011, 09:39 PM

JDM 4 LIFE... there's always a better car than a JDM until that JDM is modded. People like to put caps and limitations in the forums to what our jdms can do modded. Then they go to the track and learn the reality.

(Yeah yeah... we car comparing stock, but jdms are tuners non the least. And if we can compare cars that are 30k more then y not throw in the modded factor? Only fair.)

Audi is better. Ok, yeah.. for $60k, damn I would hope so. Truth is though. You can own a lambo and drive like a complete dunk... and another can be driving a Z like it was a ferrari. So much emphasis on numbers and so little emphasis on skills. That's why people are crashing sports cars left and right.

Fairlady+Skyline= affordable cars built to match or exceed performance of cars double the price. Refined? Who bought a sports car to be refined? Refined and sports car match like p1ss and mattress.

spearfish25 · 05-02-2011, 07:29 AM

Frankly, our cars don't have bad brakes. They have bad brake pads and can use more cooling. With better cooling, the stock pads would actually be fine for a little C&D test. And their crash in the wall wasn't brake fade...I'd almost guarantee they ice'd.

I'd love to have the TT-RS. My father has a TTS and it's a sick little car. The double clutch is incredibly fast but also incredibly boring to use. Thank goodness Audi realizes that the manual is the car to deliver over here. 99.99% of TTRS owners will never time-trial race their cars, so the twin clutch benefits really do nothing except driving experience.

CMike,

Thanks for posting that link. I missed that. 3.6s is stupid fast and the territory of AWD cars or extreme RWD supercars only (or less extreme, rear-engine supercars

). The Z can't compete with those numbers. Interestingly though, the Z's track lap time wasn't far off the TT-RS. Drop the $$ difference between the two cars into the Z and the TT-RS is toast.

BeachZTT · 05-02-2011, 07:58 AM

This!

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Whoever did the editing must recently got new software for his computer trying out all the flashy video transitions or something. Got a headache just watching it.

cossie1600 · 05-02-2011, 10:51 AM

is the audi fast in a straightline because of the tranny or does the car actuqally make more than what it is rated

i know my wife would love the tt way more than the z

christian370z · 05-02-2011, 11:35 AM

The problem with comparisons like this is that you bring in all the "it's faster so it's better" type comments. It must be hard to comprehend that sometimes, speed is not the biggest factor and after driving a few Audis s (TTS, B9 S4), they may be fast and refined but they are not really exciting for the driver in my opinion. There are many cars that are slower than most, but offer more fun factor. Isn't that the point?

AlphaSnacks · 05-02-2011, 11:46 AM

370Zs brakes are great...if you get the Nismo pads like I did.

Even though they do dust a sh*t ton.

Pelican170 · 05-02-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

Video: Audi TT RS blasts from 0-60 in 3.6 seconds with Car and Driver — Autoblog

This is from a rolling start it says...

AlphaSnacks · 05-02-2011, 01:09 PM

No it isn't. A roll out is not a rolling start. Think about it: how do you roll with launch control?

A roll out is the most common method of launching a car, it's also what's used at drag strips. Basically, there is 5-feet of space from your front wheels and the starting line. This 5-feet effectively adds 2MPH to your overall 1/4 trap, as well as shaves time.

spearfish25 · 05-02-2011, 01:14 PM

Here is Inside Line's assessment of roll out. I tend to agree that using roll out with 1/4 mile times seems appropriate as the 1/4 mile convention is from drag racing (where roll out is used). Conversely, roll out in 0-60mph times defeats the purpose of calling it 0-60. Roll out makes it ~5-60mph and falsely improves a vehicle's perceived acceleration time.

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UNKNOWN_370 · 05-02-2011, 02:23 PM

Hey I have an idea. Let's get rid of our Z's and make this the mustang GT/Audi TTRS forums. Why drive our now useless Z's that don't match up to 420hp v8's and 60k german limited production cars that will most likely be upmarketed to the highest bidder???

Thread is fail.

05-01-2011, 08:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	Yeah and the Audi = High Maintenace $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ after the warranty is gone. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

05-01-2011, 08:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
cfweber Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Independence Posts: 388 Drives: 10 370Z BS 6 SP Rep Power: 15	$60k That Audi is awesome. I'll trade straight up

05-02-2011, 07:29 AM	#22 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Frankly, our cars don't have bad brakes. They have bad brake pads and can use more cooling. With better cooling, the stock pads would actually be fine for a little C&D test. And their crash in the wall wasn't brake fade...I'd almost guarantee they ice'd. I'd love to have the TT-RS. My father has a TTS and it's a sick little car. The double clutch is incredibly fast but also incredibly boring to use. Thank goodness Audi realizes that the manual is the car to deliver over here. 99.99% of TTRS owners will never time-trial race their cars, so the twin clutch benefits really do nothing except driving experience. CMike, Thanks for posting that link. I missed that. 3.6s is stupid fast and the territory of AWD cars or extreme RWD supercars only (or less extreme, rear-engine supercars ). The Z can't compete with those numbers. Interestingly though, the Z's track lap time wasn't far off the TT-RS. Drop the $$ difference between the two cars into the Z and the TT-RS is toast. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

05-02-2011, 11:35 AM	#25 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	The problem with comparisons like this is that you bring in all the "it's faster so it's better" type comments. It must be hard to comprehend that sometimes, speed is not the biggest factor and after driving a few Audis s (TTS, B9 S4), they may be fast and refined but they are not really exciting for the driver in my opinion. There are many cars that are slower than most, but offer more fun factor. Isn't that the point? __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

05-02-2011, 01:14 PM	#29 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	Here is Inside Line's assessment of roll out. I tend to agree that using roll out with 1/4 mile times seems appropriate as the 1/4 mile convention is from drag racing (where roll out is used). Conversely, roll out in 0-60mph times defeats the purpose of calling it 0-60. Roll out makes it ~5-60mph and falsely improves a vehicle's perceived acceleration time. How We Test Cars and Trucks __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

05-01-2011, 09:39 PM	#21 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	JDM 4 LIFE... there's always a better car than a JDM until that JDM is modded. People like to put caps and limitations in the forums to what our jdms can do modded. Then they go to the track and learn the reality. (Yeah yeah... we car comparing stock, but jdms are tuners non the least. And if we can compare cars that are 30k more then y not throw in the modded factor? Only fair.) Audi is better. Ok, yeah.. for $60k, damn I would hope so. Truth is though. You can own a lambo and drive like a complete dunk... and another can be driving a Z like it was a ferrari. So much emphasis on numbers and so little emphasis on skills. That's why people are crashing sports cars left and right. Fairlady+Skyline= affordable cars built to match or exceed performance of cars double the price. Refined? Who bought a sports car to be refined? Refined and sports car match like p1ss and mattress.

05-02-2011, 10:51 AM	#24 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	is the audi fast in a straightline because of the tranny or does the car actuqally make more than what it is rated i know my wife would love the tt way more than the z

05-02-2011, 11:46 AM	#26 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	370Zs brakes are great...if you get the Nismo pads like I did. Even though they do dust a sh*t ton.

05-02-2011, 01:09 PM	#28 (permalink)
AlphaSnacks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 1,618 Drives: '13 XKR-S, '10 370Z Rep Power: 18	No it isn't. A roll out is not a rolling start. Think about it: how do you roll with launch control? A roll out is the most common method of launching a car, it's also what's used at drag strips. Basically, there is 5-feet of space from your front wheels and the starting line. This 5-feet effectively adds 2MPH to your overall 1/4 trap, as well as shaves time.

05-02-2011, 02:23 PM	#30 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Hey I have an idea. Let's get rid of our Z's and make this the mustang GT/Audi TTRS forums. Why drive our now useless Z's that don't match up to 420hp v8's and 60k german limited production cars that will most likely be upmarketed to the highest bidder??? Thread is fail.