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ImportConvert

Well noone gives a damn that Nissan refuses to put a cooler in the car. I figured if I introduced the fact that another company actually spent R&D money to REMOVE one half a decade into the production cycle, maybe people would take note. Nah. People still want to buy a damn oil-cooler when the needle crests 220*.

You can turn this into a brand-war all you want. I really don't care. I provided you with a real-world example of a manufacturer changing production 5-years in, and spending money to do it. You want to make it a pissing contest? Have at it. Everyone else can take the point as it was meant.

THAT is who my post was aimed at. The OP.

If you track your Z, by all means, I think it should have an oil-cooler. One with a bypass and thermostat.

If you don't track it, and aren't hitting limp mode, don't get one.

My posts in this thread have been about people who want an oil-cooler "just because they think...". Not people who actually tap the limp-mode.

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As to GM and their engineers, there is a reason Ferrari and a lot of others pay GM royalties for the technologies they have developed. Say whatever you want, but Nissan had to rent their engine technology from Ford. Ferrari gets their active suspension from GM, and lots of others barrow from elsewhere.

esfourteen

Your "follow GM" solution holds no value here, GM did not just remove the cooler, they designed the engine in a way to keep oil temps inline. For those of us that dont want our oil temperatures in a range where it affects performance and breaks down oil faster, all we can do is run oil coolers with a thermostatic plate.

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Dark Sarcasm

oh thank you oh great Vette prophet for bestowing upon us great Chevy facts.

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daisuke149

yes in a world like we have today, companies always borrow things from others because its cheaper, not because its the best solution.

ImportConvert

Regular 'vette has no cooler. Does just fine with oil temps 220-240 all day long, but hey, you guys blow your $$ however you want. If you feel better getting groceries with an oil-cooler, knock yourselves out.

esfourteen

actually im sure what he is referring to is the GTR cylinder wall tech that someone developed at Ford, which is really bad ***

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ImportConvert

yes, and MRC that everyone is borrowing from GM because they can't beat it.

daisuke149

not doubting good things come from it. But when you compare what ford has (in your reference), which they found to work for what they wanted, versus spending time/money developing something better... that perhaps might have given the GTR a better edge? hypothetically there are thousands if not millions of scenario's to wonder about

Convenience is the thing though and big companies will always look after their pocket books first especially if they know the consumers will simply just sit back and take it.

Either way this is running very off topic.

If OP wants peace of mind, get a 19 or 25 row with a thermostatic plate. Even if you dont track it but plan to "enjoy" the car. Some people in our mountain run in 68-72 degree weather were hitting 260+. At the same time, a NISMO that tracked their car without the oil cooler didnt hit limp mode on a very hot track day. Every car, every day, every location is different and only you can judge what will be best for your situations, unless one of us is your twin and follows you around everyday

esfourteen

That would be great if our cars stayed in the 220-240 range, I could only do that with the AC on. Oil cooler keeps me in the 170-220 range. Are you bored yet? I am.

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ImportConvert

Everyone's situation is different I guess. However, OP has no problem. He was just asking if he should get it "just because".

My friend's 370Z gets the piss beat out of it and is totally neglected and does just fine with CAI and exhaust.

Like you said though, everyone's area is different. Here in the hot humid south it may be better than at altitude, for example.

esfourteen

I factored in his location (texas is hot as ****, people avoid going outside), and his future mods. An oil cooler is a good investment IMO. I will certainly agree that an oil cooler is not for everyone, but based on what I see here in NY (humid 90's in the summer) with my Z, its a good idea for engine longevity.

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jaedub

Im dumbfounded by this.........is this really true?

I know for fact that HP on the car goes down once the AC is on....

Anyone care to explain?????

OrangeJuice

To condense all the back and forth down to a simple few words:

Couldn't hurt, but isn't necessary.

There, that's really about it.

Oh...and apparently GM>Nissan

esfourteen

As import pointed out, its likely the secondary electric fan that kicks on when the AC comes on. It cools the engine more, which in turn would affect the oil temperatures.

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ImportConvert

Live in Louisiana. Same difference. Friend's Z does fine. Maybe OP should see what his oil temps actually run w/the mods before shelling out the cash?