Proper way to down shift?

Noc · 04-27-2011, 04:46 PM

Thanks a lot for the info so far, but i have AT with paddle shifters, thats kinda different compare to the traditional downshifting

kenchan · 04-27-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Very true. It drives me nuts to drive the Z with the epic throttle lag. I find myself overshooting my matches every time I drive another car because I'm used to having to apply full throttle to rev-match.

hahaha, yah, i had this problem after driving my Z without SRM turned on and switching to either my G or Fit. both cars im over blipping and timing is off.

the Z's best driven with SRM-on i thinks.

ofcourse if this was my only car then no issue.

kenchan · 04-27-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Noc

Thanks a lot for the info so far, but i have AT with paddle shifters, thats kinda different compare to the traditional downshifting

Pelican170 · 04-27-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

you mean during a shiftup? if so you're sort of power shifting/dropping the clutch on every gear. quick way to get a shuddering clutch.

you'd have to learn to time yourself so that you dont get a lurch during engagement.

if you're chirping on downshifts then you're doing it all wrong!

you'd want to rev match by blipping the throttle and clutch-out gently...otherwise in rain you could lose control of the car~!!

sorry, should have clarified. yes, during upshifts, not downshifts. What exactly is a shuddering clutch? You really think its bad? When i do it, its not really jerky or anything, but yes, i am hammering down on that clutch lol. I get excited when driving lol

karotZ · 04-27-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noc

Thanks a lot for the info so far, but i have AT with paddle shifters, thats kinda different compare to the traditional downshifting

Regardless if AT or MT, don't downshift to 1st gear.

kenchan · 04-27-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

sorry, should have clarified. yes, during upshifts, not downshifts. What exactly is a shuddering clutch? You really think its bad? When i do it, its not really jerky or anything, but yes, i am hammering down on that clutch lol. I get excited when driving lol

clutch shudder... hummm... never a subi owner, huh?

it's a clutch that vibrates kinda violently just as you are fully engaging the clutch. was an issue i had to live with on my 02 WRX long time ago. it's kinda feels like you're under-reving from standstill and car wants to stall.

i have this on my Fit because i beat the living shhit out of it at times since its so f-king slow.

like i would shift 1-2, 2-3 very quickly with the throttle on the floor at WOT (power shifting)

Pelican170 · 04-27-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

clutch shudder... hummm... never a subi owner, huh?

it's a clutch that vibrates kinda violently just as you are fully engaging the clutch. was an issue i had to live with on my 02 WRX long time ago. it's kinda feels like you're under-reving from standstill and car wants to stall.

i have this on my Fit because i beat the living shhit out of it at times since its so f-king slow.

like i would shift 1-2, 2-3 very quickly with the throttle on the floor at WOT (power shifting)

haha, nope, never a Subi owner, but I think I understand what your saying. Im new on the 370z, so I'll have to learn to slow it down on the clutch power-slam move ive been doing lol. If not, Nissan is going to live up to their warranty!!

ChipsWithDips · 04-27-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Noc

Thanks a lot for the info so far, but i have AT with paddle shifters, thats kinda different compare to the traditional downshifting

In that case all you need to do is click that paddle when your rpms drop too low. What is too low? Depends how you are driving. If you are WOT racing, then you want to keep the rpms in the upper end of the rpm range, above 4 or 5k. If you are just cruising at a constant speed around town at light throttle, just keep the rpm above 1.5k. Running below that can put a lot of stress on the engine or stall out.

Downshift when you want more power (horsepower is more-or-less directly related to rpm). If you're already at 5k rpm you probably don't need to downshift(i doubt the AT will let you overrev the engine from a downshift anyways)

6MT · 04-27-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Wow, im surprised all of you use the SRM all the time. I dont really like it for whatever reason.

I don't. I've only ever used it once (to try it out). I downshift depending upon speed, terrain (corners, etc.), engine revs.... you know, like you're supposed to.

BTW, op: if you need advice on how to properly downshift, then you need lessons. (And no, I'm not trying to be sarcastic.)

6MT · 04-27-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Noc

Thanks a lot for the info so far, but i have AT with paddle shifters, thats kinda different compare to the traditional downshifting

Wait a minute.... didn't you start off this thread saying you wanted help with downshifting on a manual transmission?

memorylasts · 04-27-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

Wait a minute.... didn't you start off this thread saying you wanted help with downshifting on a manual transmission?

LMAO thats what i thought!

kenchan · 04-27-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Noc

I know what you are thinking 'what kind of stupid question is that?'

First off i apologize if it is a stupid question, most people around my generation did not have the opportunity to learn how to drive a manual transmission car. My parents dont, and the driving school i went to do not offer classes on manual trans. Basically all they say was "put it on drive and drive away"

Anyways, at what condition and situation should i downshift? What is the proper way of doing it so i wont damage the transmission?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by 6MT

Wait a minute.... didn't you start off this thread saying you wanted help with downshifting on a manual transmission?

he did... or i thought he did...so this is why i...

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Red__Zed · 04-27-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

Wait a minute.... didn't you start off this thread saying you wanted help with downshifting on a manual transmission?

I think he said he didn't know how to drive a manual, which is why he didn't know...

6MT · 04-27-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I think he said he didn't know how to drive a manual, which is why he didn't know...

dAvenue · 04-27-2011, 05:55 PM

Ah yes...a classic mix-up.

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