Nissan Ester Oil

nuTinmuch · 01-15-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by homeslice

But you're wrong.

lol.

Oh this thread. This thread.

I'm pretty sure it could've ended 15 pages ago and we would still be in the same place.

LiquidZ · 01-15-2010, 08:02 AM

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Homeslice
Just find a dealer who will do you the favor of selling it at cost. Some of them will do it. At least the on-line ones will. The local retail shops can't afford it because of the overhead.

I actually sell Amsoil products at cost to customers. In my opinion, this is a much more appealing alternative to people than becoming a preferred customer.

This is how it works:

I simply place an order with Amsoil and have it delivered to the customer. I pay the bill with my credit card, and request the funds via PayPal from the customer. That's it.

Here is an order I placed recently to give you an idea:
1 Gallon of 0W-30 Signature Series -> MSRP = $41.40
1 Absolute Efficiency Oil Filter -> MSRP = $16.90
3 Quarts of 0W-30 Signature Series -> MSRP = $31.50

As it stands, this order costs $89.80. Since I'm a dealer, I can pay for the order at cost, and have it shipped to my customer. The customer paid $69.05 for the product at cost.

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NismoZ
Also I won't go a whole year without changing my oil, even on Amsoil. Sorry to say the VQ is hard on oil and over 6k is pushing it. I also race, and me pushing it past 3-5k is not a smart idea either. Reason why I change more often and oil costs more for me.

I completely agree. I tell my customers to stick with factory OCI. If you absolutely must run longer intervals, you need an oil analysis first. However, I still don't recommend it.

As far as Amsoil salesmen go, I completely agree. I'm doing my best to change the stigma associated with them. I'm just an enthusiast trying to help other enthusiasts out.

blackflag · 02-02-2010, 06:08 PM

So, uh... what kind of oil should I use?

6MT · 02-02-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blackflag

So, uh... what kind of oil should I use?

Oh no!! Hide everyone!!

SigPapa226 · 02-02-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackflag

So, uh... what kind of oil should I use?

Read my post under Engine & Drivetrain, "Oil Nerds Info" and then make up your own mind.

blackflag · 02-02-2010, 06:33 PM

I know, I was just kidding. I've read all the info, and the engineer in me says to use the Nissan spec. The cheap bastard in me says to use a standard synthetic/semi-synthetic.

Mike · 02-02-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blackflag

I know, I was just kidding. I've read all the info, and the engineer in me says to use the Nissan spec. The cheap bastard in me says to use a standard synthetic/semi-synthetic.

I'm no engineer, but my train of thought is that nissan spent a heck of a lot of money developing this oil, so I should probably use it. They could have gone the easy way, and contracted with mobil 1 and put it on the oil cap like on my corvette, but they must have had a reason to make their own.

SigPapa226 · 02-02-2010, 08:01 PM

I'm not an expert but have done a lot of reading on the subject the last few weeks both on this forum and on the WWW. Still learning, but for now I plan to use the Nissan Ester Oil in my 2010 roadster and I am going to try Pennzoil Platinum in my 300 ZX TT (used Pennzoil yellow/dino for almost 20 years and the car is still running great).

Regular changes and good filters may be a bigger driver rather than the brand (of several good oil brands).

Daishi · 02-02-2010, 08:30 PM

Any comments on Redline? some people say its amazing some people say its not lol. but thats the same with just about everything lol.

blackflag · 02-02-2010, 09:28 PM

I think that's right - Sig and Mike. If it were just a regular engine, it wouldn't bother me so much. But since this engine has some unique components, that oil is specified for a reason.

(Though I still may end up using a regular synthetic because I'm so cheap. Or maybe I'll trade back and forth.)

VCuomo · 02-03-2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by blackflag

I think that's right - Sig and Mike. If it were just a regular engine, it wouldn't bother me so much. But since this engine has some unique components, that oil is specified for a reason.

(Though I still may end up using a regular synthetic because I'm so cheap. Or maybe I'll trade back and forth.)

Man, it cracks me up that the "What oil should I use?" question keeps coming up. The answer, of course, is "RTFM", but here it is one more time...

The 2009 Nissan 370Z Owner's Manual just says to use a 5W-30 oil that is API certified. Here is the quote straight from the 2009 manual:

Select only engine oils that meet the American
Petroleum Institute (API) certification or International
Lubricant Standardization and Approval
Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE viscosity
standard. These oils have the API
certification mark on the front of the container.
Oils which do not have the specified quality
label should not be used as they could cause
engine damage.

There is a one line reference to the Ester Oil in note 3 on page 9-2:

NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.

That's it. Note that the Ester oil is recommended, not required. Basically, use an API certified 5W-30 oil (or appropriate weight oil for your driving conditions) and change it and the oil filter at regular (reasonable) intervals, and you will be fine.

If you want to go crazy on this topic (and have many hours to kill), head on over to BobIsTheOilGuy and start reading... But be prepared for major head spinnage...

370Zsteve · 02-03-2010, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

lol.

Oh this thread. This thread.

I'm pretty sure it could've ended 15 pages ago and we would still be in the same place.

370Zsteve · 02-03-2010, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo

Man, it cracks me up that the "What oil should I use?" question keeps coming up. The answer, of course, is "RTFM", but here it is one more time...

The 2009 Nissan 370Z Owner's Manual just says to use a 5W-30 oil that is API certified. Here is the quote straight from the 2009 manual:

Select only engine oils that meet the American
Petroleum Institute (API) certification or International
Lubricant Standardization and Approval
Committee (ILSAC) certification and SAE viscosity
standard. These oils have the API
certification mark on the front of the container.
Oils which do not have the specified quality
label should not be used as they could cause
engine damage.

There is a one line reference to the Ester Oil in note 3 on page 9-2:

NISSAN recommends Genuine NISSAN Ester Engine Oil, which is available at a NISSAN dealer.

That's it. Note that the Ester oil is recommended, not required. Basically, use an API certified 5W-30 oil (or appropriate weight oil for your driving conditions) and change it and the oil filter at regular (reasonable) intervals, and you will be fine.

If you want to go crazy on this topic (and have many hours to kill), head on over to BobIsTheOilGuy and start reading... But be prepared for major head spinnage...

They have to make the disclaimer. However, as one poster stated, "Nissan developed the oil specifically for this engine". Put used french fry oil in for all I care. Just make sure it's 5W-30 fry oil.

VCuomo · 02-03-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

They have to make the disclaimer. However, as one poster stated, "Nissan developed the oil specifically for this engine". Put used french fry oil in for all I care. Just make sure it's 5W-30 fry oil.

(In Homer Simpson voice) "Mmmmmmmmm....french fries..."

IDZRVIT · 02-03-2010, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Daishi

Any comments on Redline? some people say its amazing some people say its not lol. but thats the same with just about everything lol.

Redline contains esters in their formula.

Nissan ester oil ~ Redline (ester) oil ~ "insert brand that contains esters" oil

Keyword is ester. So how's that for a summary of which is the "best" oil to use in your Nissan?

02-02-2010, 08:01 PM	#233 (permalink)
SigPapa226 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 205 Drives: 300 ZXTT, 370 ZR Rep Power: 16	I'm not an expert but have done a lot of reading on the subject the last few weeks both on this forum and on the WWW. Still learning, but for now I plan to use the Nissan Ester Oil in my 2010 roadster and I am going to try Pennzoil Platinum in my 300 ZX TT (used Pennzoil yellow/dino for almost 20 years and the car is still running great). Regular changes and good filters may be a bigger driver rather than the brand (of several good oil brands). __________________ Black 300ZX TT Stock + Megan CBE; Black Cherry 370Z Roadster, 6MT, Touring, Sport, Nav., 3-way Fog Light (Running, brake & flashing backup), Triple Tone Air Horns. Last edited by SigPapa226; 02-02-2010 at 08:06 PM.

02-02-2010, 06:08 PM	#228 (permalink)
blackflag Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: US Posts: 121 Drives: 2009 Z 6M base. Rep Power: 15	So, uh... what kind of oil should I use?

02-02-2010, 06:33 PM	#231 (permalink)
blackflag Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: US Posts: 121 Drives: 2009 Z 6M base. Rep Power: 15	I know, I was just kidding. I've read all the info, and the engineer in me says to use the Nissan spec. The cheap bastard in me says to use a standard synthetic/semi-synthetic.

02-02-2010, 08:30 PM	#234 (permalink)
Daishi Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 683 Drives: 09 370z 6Speed Rep Power: 17	Any comments on Redline? some people say its amazing some people say its not lol. but thats the same with just about everything lol.

02-02-2010, 09:28 PM	#235 (permalink)
blackflag Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: US Posts: 121 Drives: 2009 Z 6M base. Rep Power: 15	I think that's right - Sig and Mike. If it were just a regular engine, it wouldn't bother me so much. But since this engine has some unique components, that oil is specified for a reason. (Though I still may end up using a regular synthetic because I'm so cheap. Or maybe I'll trade back and forth.)