Nissan Ester Oil

370Zsteve · 01-01-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

When somebody knows for sure what oil is in the Z from the factory LMK, ok.

Zsteve · 01-01-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dalparadise

But you won't be getting those invisible things they put in the Nissan oil.

what the nano mites?

bumblez · 01-02-2010, 03:58 AM

I really wanna go with redline, but when I bough my car, my dealer offer me free oil change for life time. Do you guys think is this possible that I buy redline oil from aftermarket and give them to change it??

AK370Z · 01-02-2010, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bumblez

I really wanna go with redline, but when I bough my car, my dealer offer me free oil change for life time. Do you guys think is this possible that I buy redline oil from aftermarket and give them to change it??

I don't see why not. They will be happy that they are a. saving their oil b. doing less frequent oil changes.

Doesn't hurt to ask

bumblez · 01-02-2010, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z

I don't see why not. They will be happy that they are a. saving their oil b. doing less frequent oil changes.

Doesn't hurt to ask

I should go there tomorrow!!

homeslice · 01-11-2010, 08:31 AM

I wouldn't waste my time using Motul or Red Line.

Motul isn't all what it's cracked up to be. I've seen Motul vs. Amsoil comparisons in the past where factory crosshatch marks were all worn out using Motul and were still like new with the Amsoil.

Also with ASTM testing of Red Line & Mobil 1, both of these had much higher wear scars than with Amsoil. You guys are all nuts not to use Amsoil. You're going after oils based on big companies who throw lots of money into fancy marketing campaigns instead of higher performing oils like Amsoil.

I was a big fan of Red Line in the past until I started doing my own research. I've seen Amsoil perform miracles in engines and transmissions that no other oil has done, otherwise I would have not wasted my time here posting about it. It's your drivetrain. You guys can do what you want. I'm just trying to offer suggestions that will help you guys avoid an engine or tranny rebuild down the road.

If I ever lose my day job, I'll probably become a dealer for Amsoil in the future since I know this stuff works.

kannibul · 01-11-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by homeslice

I wouldn't waste my time using Motul or Red Line.

Motul isn't all what it's cracked up to be. I've seen Motul vs. Amsoil comparisons in the past where factory crosshatch marks were all worn out using Motul and were still like new with the Amsoil.

Also with ASTM testing of Red Line & Mobil 1, both of these had much higher wear scars than with Amsoil. You guys are all nuts not to use Amsoil. You're going after oils based on big companies who throw lots of money into fancy marketing campaigns instead of higher performing oils like Amsoil.

I was a big fan of Red Line in the past until I started doing my own research. I've seen Amsoil perform miracles in engines and transmissions that no other oil has done, otherwise I would have not wasted my time here posting about it. It's your drivetrain. You guys can do what you want. I'm just trying to offer suggestions that will help you guys avoid an engine or tranny rebuild down the road.

If I ever lose my day job, I'll probably become a dealer for Amsoil in the future since I know this stuff works.

...And posts like this one is exactly why I use Mobil1.

...and if you want to have a link-war...here's one:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1584948

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...Number=1487269

homeslice · 01-11-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

...And posts like this one is exactly why I use Mobil1.

...and if you want to have a link-war...here's one:

Validity of the "4-ball" wear test in engine lubes - Bob Is The Oil Guy

Four-Ball wear test: Amsoil versus Red Line - Bob Is The Oil Guy

I don't care what those threads say. I used to use Mobil 1 religiously. I had nothing but oil consumption issues with that oil. After I switched to Amsoil, my oil consumption stopped completely.

My gas mileage went up and I don't have to change this oil but once per year. There's ZERO advantage to using Mobil 1 over Amsoil.

I'm not trying to start any war. I am just trying to un-do the brainwashing that all of you guys have.

You all seem to like oils that have fancy marketing or lots of ads in magazines. That doesn't make an oil perform better. An ASTM machine is like a dynomometer. You and I can bicker about who has the most horsepower all day long, but until both of us drive to the dyno shop and put our cars on that machine, that machine will be the only way of telling you who has the best performance. It's the same deal with the oil.

That's like saying Hyundai's are better than Ferrari's because you see more people buying them than a Ferrari. Sure, Hyundai's are okay cars, but if you wanted a high performing car, wouldn't you rather have the Ferrari instead of the Hyundai, even though you've seen tons of commercials on TV for Hyundai and see their ads in tons of magazines all over? Amsoil is the Ferrari of oils. I've seen enough people switch from Mobil 1 and Royal Purple and seen the performance and cost savings differences.

You guys just need to wake up and stop this brain washing crap from oils from companies who aren't worth their salt.

If you want to race a 1,000 horsepower motor and rebuild the engine on a regular basis, then use Royal Purple. If you drive your Z to work every day like most people do and just want the engine to last and have easy maintenance, then Amsoil is the way to go.

I am broke in this economy. I can't afford overhauls and have to do everything I can to save every penny. I used to spend $70 an oil change for Mobil 1 every few months between buying the oil and having it changed. Now I spend the same on Amsoil, but do it one time per year and I'm done with it.

370Zsteve · 01-11-2010, 11:51 AM

I've used Mobil1 in everything from my lawn mower and snow blower to every car I've owned in the past ten years at least. No, I repeat, no issues whatsoever.

I'm using Nissan Ester in my Z, but that's just me. Your Amsoil advertising is amusing. I take it you are a dealer?

Lug · 01-11-2010, 01:08 PM

I used valvoline's semi synthetic in my 350Z and after 4000 miles, the oil is at the very top of the fill line, just like it was when first installed, ergo Valvoline is far far far superior to all your snake-style oils! ...FTW!

....dances around forum in victory lap and vows not to come back into thread to see any wrong-headed rebuttals

semtex · 01-11-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

I used valvoline's semi synthetic in my 350Z and after 4000 miles, the oil is at the very top of the fill line, just like it was when first installed, ergo Valvoline is far far far superior to all your snake-style oils! ...FTW!

....dances around forum in victory lap and vows not to come back into thread to see any wrong-headed rebuttals

+rep for hilarity.

IDZRVIT · 01-11-2010, 01:43 PM

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I've seen Motul vs. Amsoil comparisons in the past where factory crosshatch marks were all worn out using Motul and were still like new with the Amsoil.

Also with ASTM testing of Red Line & Mobil 1, both of these had much higher wear scars than with Amsoil.

Homeslice,
Based on what you've read in the comparison tests and all things being equal on how these engines were operated and also based on your acute knowledge of oil comparisons, how many more miles will my engine last if I switch to Amsoil vice M1 which I'm using now? Well....how many miles will my engine last, period, using Amsoil? I'm happy if you can get within a range of +/- 10000 miles for Amsoil. Ah heck, please tell us all how long our engines will last with each type of oil in your analysis of comparison testing please. Thanks!!!

jpit · 01-11-2010, 02:11 PM

Road & Track is switching from Nissan Ester to a cheaper oil in their long term test car.
They wanted to use a less expensive oil to determine if there was a perceptible difference in engine noise.

homeslice · 01-11-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

Homeslice,
Based on what you've read in the comparison tests and all things being equal on how these engines were operated and also based on your acute knowledge of oil comparisons, how many more miles will my engine last if I switch to Amsoil vice M1 which I'm using now? Well....how many miles will my engine last, period, using Amsoil? I'm happy if you can get within a range of +/- 10000 miles for Amsoil. Ah heck, please tell us all how long our engines will last with each type of oil in your analysis of comparison testing please. Thanks!!!

I read about a van going 930,000 miles on the same engine and tranny doing the 25,000 mile oil change thing. They tore down the engine and inspected it. It only had less than 1% wear from the factory specs in all that time. Not to forget, he had a ton of idle time during that whole time. If an oil is THAT GOOD to keep some delivery van going that long, I don't think I'd want to use anything else.

Not everybody beats on their cars. Most of my friends drive normal. I still hit 6,000+ RPM's on a regular basis and have no problems and no oil consumption and I'm saving money (which you all seem to complain about.)

I have just talked to too many people who have switched from all of the oils mentioned here to Amsoil and all of them never switched back.

The only people I see here complaining about Amsoil are the same people who have never even used it at all or for any length of time.

This oil saved me an engine rebuild in one of my previous cars, so I have to talk about it. If you don't want to use it, then don't. You're simply throwing away money on anything else. It's your money. Waste it how you want. My money comes hard, so I have to look for anything that will save me money. If my engine or tranny were to take a dump now, I'd be walkin'.

370Zsteve · 01-11-2010, 05:33 PM

So...you're saying I can drive my Z for 930 thousand miles while only replacing Amsoil every 25 thousand miles? Nice.

01-11-2010, 11:51 AM	#204 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	I've used Mobil1 in everything from my lawn mower and snow blower to every car I've owned in the past ten years at least. No, I repeat, no issues whatsoever. I'm using Nissan Ester in my Z, but that's just me. Your Amsoil advertising is amusing. I take it you are a dealer? __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

01-11-2010, 01:08 PM	#205 (permalink)
Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	I used valvoline's semi synthetic in my 350Z and after 4000 miles, the oil is at the very top of the fill line, just like it was when first installed, ergo Valvoline is far far far superior to all your snake-style oils! ...FTW! ....dances around forum in victory lap and vows not to come back into thread to see any wrong-headed rebuttals __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

01-11-2010, 05:33 PM	#210 (permalink)
370Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gold Coast CT Posts: 10,599 Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S. Rep Power: 43	So...you're saying I can drive my Z for 930 thousand miles while only replacing Amsoil every 25 thousand miles? Nice. __________________ SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.

01-02-2010, 03:58 AM	#198 (permalink)
bumblez Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: VA Posts: 326 Drives: Amuse 370z Rep Power: 16	I really wanna go with redline, but when I bough my car, my dealer offer me free oil change for life time. Do you guys think is this possible that I buy redline oil from aftermarket and give them to change it??

01-11-2010, 08:31 AM	#201 (permalink)
homeslice Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lilburn, GA Posts: 16 Drives: 1990 300Z Rep Power: 16	I wouldn't waste my time using Motul or Red Line. Motul isn't all what it's cracked up to be. I've seen Motul vs. Amsoil comparisons in the past where factory crosshatch marks were all worn out using Motul and were still like new with the Amsoil. Also with ASTM testing of Red Line & Mobil 1, both of these had much higher wear scars than with Amsoil. You guys are all nuts not to use Amsoil. You're going after oils based on big companies who throw lots of money into fancy marketing campaigns instead of higher performing oils like Amsoil. I was a big fan of Red Line in the past until I started doing my own research. I've seen Amsoil perform miracles in engines and transmissions that no other oil has done, otherwise I would have not wasted my time here posting about it. It's your drivetrain. You guys can do what you want. I'm just trying to offer suggestions that will help you guys avoid an engine or tranny rebuild down the road. If I ever lose my day job, I'll probably become a dealer for Amsoil in the future since I know this stuff works.

01-11-2010, 02:11 PM	#208 (permalink)
jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 16	Road & Track is switching from Nissan Ester to a cheaper oil in their long term test car. They wanted to use a less expensive oil to determine if there was a perceptible difference in engine noise.