Nissan 370Z Forum  

Automatic 2-1 rough downshifting

Originally Posted by jr92 mine is more jerky in auto than with the paddles. It like my Z doesnt know the right gear to be in sometimes, keeps changing its

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-16-2011, 10:23 AM   #46 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
wstar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,024
Drives: too slow
Rep Power: 3594
wstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond reputewstar has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jr92 View Post
mine is more jerky in auto than with the paddles. It like my Z doesnt know the right gear to be in sometimes, keeps changing its mind at times
Are you coming to a stop soon? Are you coming up on a corner? What's the min speed you intend to hit in the corner? Are you accelerating slowly right now for a few seconds (someone's in the way), but about to get on the gas right afterwards (there's an opening in another lane a few seconds away)? Are you accelerating hard right now, but intending to drop back off the gas considerably once you reach XX mph?

All of these sorts of things and countless others go through your head picking your current gear manually. An automatic transmission in D-mode really only has three basic input variables to work with for making a gearing decision for you: Current Vehicle Speed, Current Engine RPM, and Accelerator Pedal Position. That's true of any auto transmission, even on a minivan.

If your tranny can't make up its mind and settle on a gear, it's because your inputs (the 3 above) are fluctuating in patterns that don't make sense for what it's designed for. It can't possibly know all of the other factors in play. For everyday poking around in traffic, an automatic transmission makes reasonable gearing decisions for average drivers, focusing mostly on fuel economy, and trying to respond quickly with a downshift if you stomp the gas pedal hard to pass someone.

It should come as no surprise, especially in more complex situations, that an auto transmission makes poor or even schizophrenic gearing decisions. Use the M-mode, Luke.
__________________
7AT Track Car!
Journal thread / Car setup details
wstar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2011, 01:06 PM   #47 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14858
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jr92 View Post
mine is more jerky in auto than with the paddles. It like my Z doesnt know the right gear to be in sometimes, keeps changing its mind at times
That I get when I accelerate fast n just stop push the peddle suddenly. The car revs up then higher, then I let go of the gas and press on it a lil for it to find the gear. Its kinda weird. It only happens once in a blue though
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2011, 01:24 PM   #48 (permalink)
Track Member
 
kidkotic2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: El Paso, TX
Posts: 541
Drives: Like Crazy
Rep Power: 15
kidkotic2001 is just really nicekidkotic2001 is just really nicekidkotic2001 is just really nicekidkotic2001 is just really nice
Default

I believe that this is normal, I have the same issue I told the dealer they did not find any issue with it. I really do not switch to M mode unless I am on the highway in city I stick to D.

Last edited by kidkotic2001; 05-16-2011 at 02:01 PM.
kidkotic2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2011, 01:30 PM   #49 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
UNKNOWN_370's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ny'r livn in tx
Posts: 8,687
Drives: well over 130m.p.h.
Rep Power: 14858
UNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond reputeUNKNOWN_370 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yeah I'm not even concered with any of this. The CVT is just a weird tranny. I've owned four cvt's already. The performance is sick... knock on wood they have all been reliable, but they all had strange personalities unlike normal trannies. Infinitie gear ratios. Makes this car have to think on its toes. Sometimes she gets a lil confused. With so many gear ratios I totally understand her n it doesn't annoy me at all.
Sports cars are jerky. At least in my experience they have always been... maybe I don't spend enough money on cars? Or maybe I need to own german to appreciate a non jerky sports car??? Lol
UNKNOWN_370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2011, 03:22 PM   #50 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
DrEvil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 270
Drives: 09 370z,Blue, auto
Rep Power: 14
DrEvil is on a distinguished road
Default

Mine does the same thing. I just had the XC 70 out and it too has a manual mode. I noticed that it doesn't drop down into first untill the car has actually come to a complete stop, giving a smooth 2-1 down shift. I think that out ats' are programed that way to drop into first while the car is still moving.
DrEvil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-16-2011, 03:59 PM   #51 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
waaaasabi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York City
Posts: 491
Drives: '10 Civic (FG1) 5AT
Rep Power: 17
waaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud ofwaaaasabi has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 View Post
Yeah I'm not even concered with any of this. The CVT is just a weird tranny. I've owned four cvt's already. The performance is sick... knock on wood they have all been reliable, but they all had strange personalities unlike normal trannies. Infinitie gear ratios. Makes this car have to think on its toes. Sometimes she gets a lil confused. With so many gear ratios I totally understand her n it doesn't annoy me at all.
Sports cars are jerky. At least in my experience they have always been... maybe I don't spend enough money on cars? Or maybe I need to own german to appreciate a non jerky sports car??? Lol
The 370Z doesn't have a CVT.
__________________
That's SOOOO not Raven!
waaaasabi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[OFFICIAL] Manual v. Automatic Thread theDreamer Engine & Drivetrain 1886 04-01-2019 06:48 PM
Auto downshifting. WTF?! Dav Nissan 370Z General Discussions 28 07-26-2012 12:19 PM
Automatic w/Paddle Shifters Nissan370z Nissan 370Z Pricing / Ordering Discussions 39 06-04-2011 06:16 AM
Do you take your car though automatic car washes? Pushing_Tin The Lounge (Off Topic) 14 01-30-2009 04:22 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2