What should i get 370z or the new camero coming out soon

Originally Posted by ssqpolo

in that case, we would all have caterham cars because they have amazing ability.

No, we wouldn't - you'd buy the best car in the segment for whatever your specific desires are.

what do u mean purchasing a car regardless of who makes it and how its made???....that's how most people do it!

I mean, you shouldn't buy a car because its Japanese or because BMW makes it. You should be buying whatever has the features that you want. If I bought the car that I wanted purely based off what I usually get (a GM vehicle of some sort), I'd have purchased the new Camaro. Sadly, its ABILITIES didn't meet my needs - a better HANDLING car. I wasn't looking for power specifically, this time.

The camaro is a cool looking car, but like most all of american cars, they use that cheap plastic interior and body panels and the car will probably fall apart in a couple of years.

Stereotyping and biased. Ive owned many GM vehicles, and none have "fallen apart in a couple years". Just because it happened to you, doesn't mean it happens to everyone. So how about them engine cooling issues in a car that was designed as a SPORTS CAR, and squeaks and rattles people have been complaining about for the 370? Things like this happen to ALL vehicles!

where a car is made and who makes it makes a hugggggggggeeeeeeeee difference when purchasing a car.

No, it doesn't - reliability varies across the board. Look at Mercedes reliability, or Suzuki - thats Japanese made, and its reliability on average is piss pour compared to Toyota/Honda. Location means nothing.

thats why many people buy honda accords and toyota camrys. those things last forever! even after yrs of abuse. after 1000000 miles on a camry, u might only have to change a timing belt.

Stereotyping, blanket statements, and just plain wrong.

and about Bias...this is a 370Z forum. we are here because we admire and adore THIS specific car. obviously we're gonna have bias towards it.

A true car enthusiast can appreciate ANY car for what it is, and the most important thing is to be able to acknowledge the faults in your "favorite" car. The 370 has plenty of them.

"2) You honestly think the 350HP Nismo Z is going to be a huge difference on acceleration?"--MightBOBO...considering the Nismo Z has an all new exhaust, i think it will make a difference. maybe not 0-60 so much (i think thats a poor test anyway), but maybe in the 1/4 mile.

No, its not a huge performance leap. If you think 18 crank HP is big, you're wrong, sorry. And dollar for dollar, mod for mod, you're barking up the wrong tree in a mod war versus a small block chevy. Besides, you cant even argue anything other than a stock car here, because opening the argument up to mods would quickly lose control.

We saw someone in another thread run a 13.4 in the 1/4...then added those stillen intakes and run almost a 13.1. Thats a HUGE performace leap.

Just because they ran a 13.4 once, doesnt mean they couldnt have run faster. Some 4th gen F-bodies ran 12.9's stock. Others, depending on the drivers skill and the track, could barely crack mid 13's. Drag strip times have FAR too many variables.

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Nuff said.

Originally Posted by juan05

dude dont mess with hondas. why do you see so many of them?? 95's!! 14 years my friend has one runs great. now in the other hand we have a mustang 95. the engine messed up after a week. soo yea buddy. jappanesse> american
cars
the over heating is just in track. not EVERYONE goes in the track very few people does!!! so thats "bias statements" of your part mr.

have a good day

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Horray for more blanket statements and generalities lol.

I proved ssq just about completely wrong in his post but you thanked him anyway just because he backed you up lol. I think I would have thanked someone who made an intelligent, well organized post, but his was just as bad as yours - completely full of bias. You pick single examples of vehicles and generalize that ALL of a brands vehicles are like that. I cant think of a worse possible practice. Besides, how do we know how your buddy's treated their vehicles? You can say whatever you want about how they all did all required maintenance, but we want statistics here - not here-say.

So, going off your standards, is a 1998 Chevrolet Prism a bad vehicle? It IS a Chevrolet after all...

Look, you're going to have to come in here with something a lot more solid than what you have so far. Spouting off stuff from the hip because your buddy's 1995 Mustang wasn't as reliable as your other buddy's Honda lol - solid argument you have there!

Besides, no comment on the GT-R tranny, or Suzuki's reliability (or lack thereof)? How about all of the rattles in the 370, and why does it take so long to get the valve train lubed up on a cold start in the VQ versus a horrifically simple small block chevy? Or, what many think is (albeit new and interesting) an overly complicated valve train system in the VQ? I know this is all over your head, but humor me anyway.

Originally Posted by ssqpolo

mightybobo--Whatever happened to purchasing a car for its abilities, rather than who makes it, or where it was made?

in that case, we would all have caterham cars because they have amazing ability. what do u mean purchasing a car regardless of who makes it and how its made???....that's how most people do it! The camaro is a cool looking car, but like most all of american cars, they use that cheap plastic interior and body panels and the car will probably fall apart in a couple of years. i had a dodge magnum, brand new. in one year, the underpanels of my car flew off going down the turnpike (no i didnt hit anything or damage it). the interior looked cool at first, but in a couple of months you realize how cheap the quality of everything is. moreover, after 2 and a half yrs and 45000 miles, i thought the thing was gonna die if i drove it any more (i kept it well maintained, so dont blame it on that). where a car is made and who makes it makes a hugggggggggeeeeeeeee difference when purchasing a car. thats why many people buy honda accords and toyota camrys. those things last forever! even after yrs of abuse. after 1000000 miles on a camry, u might only have to change a timing belt.

and about Bias...this is a 370Z forum. we are here because we admire and adore THIS specific car. obviously we're gonna have bias towards it.

"2) You honestly think the 350HP Nismo Z is going to be a huge difference on acceleration?"--MightBOBO...considering the Nismo Z has an all new exhaust, i think it will make a difference. maybe not 0-60 so much (i think thats a poor test anyway), but maybe in the 1/4 mile. We saw someone in another thread run a 13.4 in the 1/4...then added those stillen intakes and run almost a 13.1. Thats a HUGE performace leap.

for the OP, when buying a car, look at the looks, the quality, and performance. Whichever one YOU feel is best suited for you, pick it. dont worry what other people will say or think is better. there will always be haters. If u like the camaro...pick it (that's if it ever comes out). It's a cool looking car.

Originally Posted by scruffydog

the new camero is suppose to be super fast...and I mean hella hella quick. But that's if Chevy still decides to go forward with releasing it to production due to their bailout.

I personally love both cars, but they're two different types of car. A 370z is more like a sports car and the Camero is a remake of the beautiful classic muscle car. If gas isn't a concern, then sure get the gas muncher...but I would personally would get the Z because it's much more efficient and provides all the power and performance you need for a day to day car. Speaking of performance, I believe the Z can totally out handle the Camero on a track. Then again, this all depends if you even track your car or do you just drag racing or love taking everyone down on the freeway.

By the way, Nissan 350Z's interior was cheap as hell....as much as i hate to admit it, Nissan isn't much better than most American made cars when it comes to their interior designs - they all suck and look bulky! I would have to agree that not all Japanese cars are great. I currently own a Lexus and I seriously think Nissan's got ways to catch up even when compared to my other car which is an old Honda Accord. But I am glad that they did improve the new 370Z's interior.