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juan05 04-12-2009 08:57 AM

nismo 370z vs 370z sports
 
which one would you guys pick and why?

BrokenVow 04-12-2009 09:27 AM

Tough choice. I think, had I the money, I would go with the Nismo. The front and rear ends are too too sexy.

juan05 04-12-2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVow (Post 55363)
Tough choice. I think, had I the money, I would go with the Nismo. The front and rear ends are too too sexy.

yea i think nismo is to sexy to put down :iagree:

Endgame 04-12-2009 10:04 AM

I think I would still opt for the Sport. If the Nismo were not 7 inches longer and lighter, I would spring for it.

I wanted at least a shorter car than I have now and the Nismo is about the same length as the RX8.... Not to mention I will not be hitting the track like I thought I would be. Although the Nismo is extremly appealing, I will take a Sport with Nismo suspension, catback, and tune....with some CE28Ns.....

juan05 04-12-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 55375)
I think I would still opt for the Sport. If the Nismo were not 7 inches longer and lighter, I would spring for it.

I wanted at least a shorter car than I have now and the Nismo is about the same length as the RX8.... Not to mention I will not be hitting the track like I thought I would be. Although the Nismo is extremly appealing, I will take a Sport with Nismo suspension, catback, and tune....with some CE28Ns.....

whats the CE28Ns?

MarcusMIA 04-12-2009 10:30 AM

The Nismo is kind of nice, but I just don't think the whole car's body comes together. The obnoxious wing doesn't seem right with that nice sleek sleeper front bumper. The rear is pretty ok.

However, I think everyone here will agree that the Sport version comes together as one super sexy piece that everyone can agree on. I agree.

At the end of the day you may be able to upgrade the sport version for some of the nismo components for a fraction of the cost you would pay for the whole thing.

theDreamer 04-12-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 55382)
whats the CE28Ns?

http://www.z1auto.com/images/ce28ntimeattack.jpg

import111 04-12-2009 10:34 AM

I would take the sport. The mods I want to do are different from what Nismo did.

theDreamer 04-12-2009 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by import111 (Post 55389)
I would take the sport. The mods I want to do are different from what Nismo did.

This, knowing this time you get more than just some new parts (a bump in HP) it makes it a tougher choice, but I think aftermarket is the best way to go still. Though, this is just my opinion.

OMGWTFBBQ 04-12-2009 10:39 AM

To be honest, I LOVE what Nismo did for the 370z, but it's just not the same direction I'd like to go with my car. Having a limited production version of any car is nice and all, but I'd rather build the car the way I want it and tailor it to my liking, not buy one premade from a company with what they think I'll like. And plus, I haven't seen the price tag on the Nismo 370z either. :p

juan05 04-12-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MarcusMIA (Post 55386)
The Nismo is kind of nice, but I just don't think the whole car's body comes together. The obnoxious wing doesn't seem right with that nice sleek sleeper front bumper. The rear is pretty ok.

However, I think everyone here will agree that the Sport version comes together as one super sexy piece that everyone can agree on. I agree.

At the end of the day you may be able to upgrade the sport version for some of the nismo components for a fraction of the cost you would pay for the whole thing.

i agree completly the sports is amazing. but i love some of the nismo parts( all rear wheels exhaust muffler and seats) the problem is im going to be leasing so i cant fix the car. im going to lease it for 3 years then buy it. so yea ill rather have a car all ready fixed. you get my point i forgot to throw the leasing parts out there.

juan05 04-12-2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 55390)
This, knowing this time you get more than just some new parts (a bump in HP) it makes it a tougher choice, but I think aftermarket is the best way to go still. Though, this is just my opinion.

i agree withyou also my friend has a mazda speed 3 2008 and he has it modded with a whole bunch of gear. like exhaust, seats, gauges, intake tinted a whole bunch

FairmanZ 04-12-2009 01:17 PM

I'm on the fence about this myself. I'm seriously thinking about the Nismo Z now. My guess is the price maybe about the same as the convertable. I expect the Nismo to be priced right at about $41-$43K (just my guess). I was planning on getting a Touring/Sport which would MSRP at ~$38-$39K. So if I'm right about pricing, the Nismo isn't that much more.

OTOH, a Base/Sport is a screaming deal. From a bang for your buck perspective, it's certainly the way to go.

juan05 04-12-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FairmanZ (Post 55471)
I'm on the fence about this myself. I'm seriously thinking about the Nismo Z now. My guess is the price maybe about the same as the convertable. I expect the Nismo to be priced right at about $41-$43K (just my guess). I was planning on getting a Touring/Sport which would MSRP at ~$38-$39K. So if I'm right about pricing, the Nismo isn't that much more.

OTOH, a Base/Sport is a screaming deal. From a bang for your buck perspective, it's certainly the way to go.

yea im debating which version z i want to buy myself. because the sport in my nissan dealership was 35 k with all this little add ons which i dont want. i eventually got them to lower the price to 31 500 but i dint get it because i tought ok i lowered the price. almost 4 k if the nismo is 41 k then i could lower it to probably 37.500 k and i can put 1 k down payment and a sienna xle (2004) all paid as down payment i expect to get around 11k or 12 k. im going to lease it do to my dad taxes would be better idk why. lol so thats my plan. hopefully it all works out

>135I 04-12-2009 03:20 PM

I love my sport, by far I think its the better choice you can buy all the upgrades you want with the money you have from difference in price. Also you can get the 350hp the nismo will put out by just flashing the ECU. So save the money difference and do what you want. Oh not to mention the wheels are the sport package are forged.

juan05 04-12-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by >135I (Post 55523)
I love my sport, by far I think its the better choice you can buy all the upgrades you want with the money you have from difference in price. Also you can get the 350hp the nismo will put out by just flashing the ECU. So save the money difference and do what you want. Oh not to mention the wheels are the sport package are forged.

what you mean they are forged? yea as i said im leasing for 39 months so that means i cant do nothing to the car. only tint:ugh2:

XenChi 04-12-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 55615)
what you mean they are forged? yea as i said im leasing for 39 months so that means i cant do nothing to the car. only tint:ugh2:


Forged

The ultimate in one-piece wheels. Forging is the process of forcing a solid billet of aluminum between the forging dies under an extreme amount of pressure. This creates a finished product that is very dense, very strong and therefore can be very light. The costs of tooling, development, equipment, etc., make this type of wheel very exclusive and usually demand a high price in the aftermarket.

In forged wheels, computer numerically controlled
(CNC) mills add the cosmetics and the bolt circle to exacting tolerances.

juan05 04-12-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by XenChi (Post 55623)
Forged

The ultimate in one-piece wheels. Forging is the process of forcing a solid billet of aluminum between the forging dies under an extreme amount of pressure. This creates a finished product that is very dense, very strong and therefore can be very light. The costs of tooling, development, equipment, etc., make this type of wheel very exclusive and usually demand a high price in the aftermarket.

In forged wheels, computer numerically controlled
(CNC) mills add the cosmetics and the bolt circle to exacting tolerances.

oh ok iget what you mean is there any pics of any other forged rims wheels you can send me? i would appreciate it. and price.:tup:

BanningZ 04-12-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 55632)
oh ok iget what you mean is there any pics of any other forged rims wheels you can send me? i would appreciate it. and price.:tup:

That will give you an idea.

Volk Racing Wheels

IMO the Volk TE37 is probably the most recognized forged rim out there

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The Volk Racing TE37 by RAYS Engineering is the current line of street and race wheels in various versions. The main line TE37 is the forged aluminum version.

Material is 6061 aircraft grade aluminum. This material is hot forged. 1st forging process is done with pressure of 5,000 kilograms per square centimeter. 2nd forging process is a slow process with 3,500 kilograms per square centimeter.

The lip is also forged to 3,500 kilograms per square centimeter. This allows the wheel to have less material than other wheels, but have more strength and durability.

The wheel's excess material is machined off (to tolerance of 1/100 of a millimeter). Powder coating and clear coating is done by a special proprietary process to ensure long lasting quality and durability.

The weight of Volk Racing TE37 is 8 lbs. for 15 x 6.5 and 16 lbs. for 18 x 8.5. With this kind of lightness and durability, it is no surprise to see that this wheel is a very coveted wheel among enthusiasts.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...acing-TE37.jpghttp://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...G2Small1-2.jpg
^The TE37 is on the left and the G2 is on the right^

>135I 04-13-2009 01:05 PM

iForged Performance Wheels | The next generation in forging technology - Global Site

Check out that website I really like there wheels..

juan05 04-13-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 55802)
That will give you an idea.

Volk Racing Wheels

IMO the Volk TE37 is probably the most recognized forged rim out there



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...acing-TE37.jpghttp://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q...G2Small1-2.jpg
^The TE37 is on the left and the G2 is on the right^

yea thats great. they look really cool i tried looking in their website but i dint find the prices.

semtex 04-13-2009 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by juan05 (Post 56078)
yea thats great. they look really cool i tried looking in their website but i dint find the prices.

Try using Google. It'll give you links to different retailers. Different retailers will have different prices, so there's no way to tell you how much these cost because it just depends. I will tell you up front, however, that Volks are one of the more expensive brands.

Type in "Volk wheels" for the search term.

:google:

juan05 04-13-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 56087)
Try using Google. It'll give you links to different retailers. Different retailers will have different prices, so there's no way to tell you how much these cost because it just depends. I will tell you up front, however, that Volks are one of the more expensive brands.

Type in "Volk wheels" for the search term.

:google:

thanks i got the prices they preety expencive... but really niceeee...

2bits 04-13-2009 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by >135I (Post 55523)
Also you can get the 350hp the nismo will put out by just flashing the ECU.

You'd need the Nismo exhaust too.

juan05 04-14-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bits (Post 56139)
You'd need the Nismo exhaust too.

yea i know the exhaust is sick

ssqpolo 04-14-2009 08:40 PM

juan. since ur leasing, go for the nismo if the price is right. ur dad's probably not gonna let u start modding, especially if ur only gonna have it for 3 yrs. u remember when i had my old Z, i had all these plans to mod, but only put a system in. trust me u ll be more than happy with the car whether u get the sports or nismo. but if u can get it, get the nismo...especially since ur not gonna mod. it has everything u want--body kit, exhaust and tune. straight! its more exclusive too.

juan05 04-14-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ssqpolo (Post 56998)
juan. since ur leasing, go for the nismo if the price is right. ur dad's probably not gonna let u start modding, especially if ur only gonna have it for 3 yrs. u remember when i had my old Z, i had all these plans to mod, but only put a system in. trust me u ll be more than happy with the car whether u get the sports or nismo. but if u can get it, get the nismo...especially since ur not gonna mod. it has everything u want--body kit, exhaust and tune. straight! its more exclusive too.

yea i know i dont have any palns of modding just navigation would be nice maybe bose speakers or w.e because the stero kinda sucks lol...im planning to buy it after three years.. ey sahir since you are leasing also are you going to buy after 3 years or get a new z? oh and i hope they put an intercooler in the nismo i been hearing 370z overheat.. i want to bring mine to morroso once i have 1000 miles... :driving:

scruffydog 04-17-2009 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by >135I (Post 55523)
I love my sport, by far I think its the better choice you can buy all the upgrades you want with the money you have from difference in price. Also you can get the 350hp the nismo will put out by just flashing the ECU. So save the money difference and do what you want. Oh not to mention the wheels are the sport package are forged.

I believe the rims on the Nismo 370z (also made by Rays Engineering) are forged as well. Rims now a days for sport cars are pretty much all forged - just like the Nismo 350z. They just don't advertise it much. E.g. Lexus IS-F, Evo X MR, etc. And i agree with you, you do save a lot money if you're not intending to upgrade anything and you have more choices. But if you take into the account of you starting to mod everything in your car to match what the Nismo comes with (suspension, exhaust, rims, Nismo body kit, seats, etc) you're looking at spending much more than what the Nismo 370z cost. Not to mention you now have an extra set of stock parts which you most likely ain't gonna make much money back on. But I guess if you get the regular sports base model, you won't be locked into a fixed set of configuration and you can choose whatever upgrade brands you want. That's just my opinion.

If money isn't an issue, I personally wouldn't mind going with the regular Z and then buy upgrades here and there and most likely end up with a totally different setup than the Nismo and have more HP than the Nismo would, but then again...that'll be not a wise decision if I only have a $40K budget. You might as well got with the Nismo Z.

Forrest 04-17-2009 03:34 AM

Woudlnt buy a Nismo Z, If the price is to close to a corvette im going to buy a corvette. Not a nismo Z. Its a great car but you get the point.

If the price is right then thats a different situation. But i am more than happy with my sport package and do not feel a nismo is necessary for me.

Not that it matters but serveral 350z Nismos was on sale for rather "cheap" I still did not pul the trigger on any, i still would have got a enthusiast trim if i had to.

scruffydog 04-17-2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 58361)
Woudlnt buy a Nismo Z, If the price is to close to a corvette im going to buy a corvette. Not a nismo Z. Its a great car but you get the point.

If the price is right then thats a different situation. But i am more than happy with my sport package and do not feel a nismo is necessary for me.

Not that it matters but serveral 350z Nismos was on sale for rather "cheap" I still did not pul the trigger on any, i still would have got a enthusiast trim if i had to.

YEAAA, my friend has the new corvette and got it around $38K....and i personally think it's worth it. It's a much slicker sports car. You get the targa top, bigger trunk space and looks a lot lower than a Z.

juan05 04-17-2009 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 58323)
I believe the rims on the Nismo 370z (also made by Rays Engineering) are forged as well. Rims now a days for sport cars are pretty much all forged - just like the Nismo 350z. They just don't advertise it much. E.g. Lexus IS-F, Evo X MR, etc. And i agree with you, you do save a lot money if you're not intending to upgrade anything and you have more choices. But if you take into the account of you starting to mod everything in your car to match what the Nismo comes with (suspension, exhaust, rims, Nismo body kit, seats, etc) you're looking at spending much more than what the Nismo 370z cost. Not to mention you now have an extra set of stock parts which you most likely ain't gonna make much money back on. But I guess if you get the regular sports base model, you won't be locked into a fixed set of configuration and you can choose whatever upgrade brands you want. That's just my opinion.

If money isn't an issue, I personally wouldn't mind going with the regular Z and then buy upgrades here and there and most likely end up with a totally different setup than the Nismo and have more HP than the Nismo would, but then again...that'll be not a wise decision if I only have a $40K budget. You might as well got with the Nismo Z.

thats a reallly wise choice. all we can do is wait and see how much the nismo costs... :iagree:

BanningZ 04-18-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scruffydog (Post 58501)
YEAAA, my friend has the new corvette and got it around $38K....and i personally think it's worth it. It's a much slicker sports car. You get the targa top, bigger trunk space and looks a lot lower than a Z.

Uhh its not new. :driving:

Lug 04-19-2009 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 58966)
Uhh its not new. :driving:

I've seen them advertized new for under $40,000 so it's definately possible, especially in today's economy.

BanningZ 04-19-2009 04:15 PM

Maybe in Texas. Not here. 49K+ is a pretty standard starting price for new.

scruffydog 04-19-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 58966)
Uhh its not new. :driving:

yes, he got it brand new Chevy Corvette C6 at the dealership for $38K (in Nor Cal), it is possible. However, his car is pretty much base. They have tons of other upgrades that makes the price go skyrocket.

BanningZ 04-19-2009 10:14 PM

Interesting. 38K is one hell of a deal. I wouldn't buy a vette if it wasn't a Z06, but either way that's impressive. That's less than I'll pay for my Z.

Lug 04-20-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BanningZ (Post 59482)
Interesting. 38K is one hell of a deal. I wouldn't buy a vette if it wasn't a Z06, but either way that's impressive. That's less than I'll pay for my Z.

From a pure performance standpoint, it's one of the best deals in history (430 HP in a car lighter than the Z and decent handling). The Z will actually be more exclusive and probably have better long term reliability.

edit: If you go to AutoTrader.com and search on new vettes under $40,000 you will get 12 hits.

imag 04-20-2009 11:28 AM

Note - if you want the Z51 performance pack, it will top 40K. I have to be impressed with Chevy for keeping the 'vette so light. I just don't really want one somehow.

I'm hoping that another 10K in the Z will get it into 'vette beating territory. It would be much more fun to beat 'vettes with a Z than the other way 'round.

Of course, the best investment in speed is probably more time on the track. I've watched great drivers in Minis take down so-so drivers in 'vettes.

lww 04-21-2009 08:52 AM

A base model w/ sport package and $5k in upgrades will top out at about $38-$39k. That $5k should cover long tube intake, exhaust, pulleys, Hotchkis sways, Eibach springs and a set of R-comps.

As soon as the tuners get the ECU figured out, a new tune and you should be able to exceed the Nismo performance for less money but from what I've seen, it looks like the factory ECU may be adaptable enough that you don't even need the tune...

nissan ned 05-15-2011 12:41 AM

Juan, I had the situation of leasing Nismo or 370z with intention of buying @ lease end. Funny I had just sold my 2002 corvette and used proceeds to lease/purchase my 370z which all in all the 370z for me is a way better, tighter, fun, head turning & just sweet car, I absolutely hated that plastic grind in the Chevrolet dash & just such a big forward line fast car, granted it was a c5 with smaller LS. My thought is to get the 370z sport which pretty close to the Nismo make sure you like this type of sports car you like/love. if you know your gonna buy at lease end you can start now just be prepared to return back to original if you end up turning back in. I plan on putting Nismo front bumper, sides and rear bumper while keeping originals although I know I'm purchasing mine did 1 payment lease and have corvette proceeds set aside. You'll love the 370z, it is so so much fun to drive and there isn't a ton of them running around. Check out the 1 payment option, I felt like I had a lot more buying power. Also be sure to study up on your leasing numbers through Nissan Financial, remember the 370z is not a car that traditionally leases well.


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