honest opinions about this article ??

cossie1600

maybe i am not normal, but who the hell would buy a car based on fi potential? maybe i need to hang out with the fast and furious crew

UNKNOWN_370

Fast and furious has nothing to do with this. Its like that's all you guys ever bring up when anyone mentions these are tuner cars. They should have never made that freakn movie. Wayyyyy before fast and furious there were tuner cars being made since the early 70's. The first modern tuner car that came out that can be tuned from the ECU was the 82 mitsubishi starion. That car is the reason we tune cars in the way we do today. That was 20years before those stupid movies you mention.
I wouldn't buy a regular car on potential but I definately buy my sports cars on potential. Especially a 2 seat sports car with little utility. If I wanna ride around with my wife, i'd buy a sports sedan or a gt at best. Then I wouldn't worry about potential. Everyone here talks about lightweight, intakes, exhausts and FI all the time. So I don't know where you get sports cars aren't bought for there potenial. That's a laughable statement.

Anyway I enjoy the car for what it is tuned or not.

b1adesofcha0s

I think he meant potential for forced induction applications, not overall performance potential. I don't think I would buy a car based on its potential for forced induction potential, but overall performance potential is definitely near the top of my list.

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BalanBro

Most anything has FI potential. Just take a look at what a blown or boosted ls3 puts down.

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b1adesofcha0s

Yup, just look at those 1000 HP civics. IMO that's a stupid thing to consider when getting a car. Something that makes more sense is getting a car that comes with FI with the intent to beef it up and increase the boost.

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Red__Zed

Actually, most cars have very low FI potential.

b1adesofcha0s

O rly?

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Red__Zed

Ya rly!


With a lot of help from people that know what they are doing, and a whole lot of money, sure. It's a lot more economical to make something that comes well-suited to modification fast though.

cossie1600

If you have to modify the car to make it the way you want, chances are that you bought the wrong car to begin with

BalanBro

Not necessarily. There is almost always a good bit of headroom in modern engines. It's just that some folks expect too much and start thinking that 12 psi on stock motor with cast pistons is safe. If they have a good tune and stick with the wastgate spring (7-8 psi), modern motors hold up just fine.

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Red__Zed

Most modern motors don't really have much headroom, and there often isn't aftermarket support for modifications. Even if there is, there are usually severe limitations with nearly every component along the way. It's a pretty big deal to be able to buy a car that doesn't require replacing the trans, rear end, etc, along with massive headwork, just to get decent FI numbers.

Kcuba370z

lol yeah i agree,and its surprising since in NY you'd expect alott more of us

UNKNOWN_370

I wasn't implying you buy these cars to turbo them. I'm saying they are tuner cars capable of being wound up to be extremely fast. But when I buy a sports car I wanna know that all my options are open. Whether I FI or not. A car that can't FI doesn't sound like a durable sports car to me.
Look at the Z as a whole package, Suspension, motor, drive characteristics,capability, price then look at its best numbers stock. 4.6/13.1 155mph top with 1.01g on sport pkg and then compare. No one comes close in the V6 segment at 35k.
The mustang is an impressive v8 package. But its a different type of car. In the end v8 to v6 is a pointless arguement. When the v6 mustang camaro challenger and genesis coupe are out performing a Z bone stock. I will say the Z needs to beef up.

To get better performance you still need more cylinders or more cash. In the end I'm just glad I can add an extra 125hp for about 8grand. That's just me though...

FromG2Z

Actually 12.9 look at bladesofchaos' sig

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Red__Zed

Well, of course the majority of people don't modify them. Most modded cars don't hold their value well because of this. The vast majority of people want an A-to-B vehicle, which is why the Camry and Corolla sell so well.

Those of us that use the vehicles for competitive driving, whether autocross, track time/racing, or the drag strip, will need to modify the car to meet our needs.


To be fair, that's an uncorrected time. Most of the mags have run times that are quicker than what they post, and the times are corrected downwards based on altitude, temperature, humidity, etc.